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Yet another antisemite hiding behind "Anti Zionism" as your previous post showed. Zionism has nothing to do with Russia.
You're making false assumptions.

Answering False Assumption #1: I happen to be part Jewish and have nothing for or against other Jews than I do for or against any other ethnic group. (There are also plenty of other Jews (whether part- of full-blooded) who are against zionism.) Your "antisemite" accusation is a baseless fabrication.

Answering False Assumption #2: I have neither said, nor implied, that zionism had anything in particular to do with Russia. Suggesting that I said or believe so is another baseless fabrication.
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Old 25.01.2016, 00:06
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

You brought up Jews and Zionism in negative context when neither was discussed. This is antisemitism.
"Anti Zionism" is basically another name for antisemitism, the Jews have at least as much right as any other nation to rule themselves in an independent country.

Why did you bring up "Zionist propaganda" when it has nothing to do with this thread?

The post about the bridge was ridiculous: the technical challenge is very small (it was already done before). Not much to be proud of.

Russia's income is mostly resource based. This is embrassing for a country claiming to be a world leader. The current adventures in Ukraine and Syria won't improve the Russian position.
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You brought up Jews and Zionism in negative context when neither was discussed. This is antisemitism...
...Maybe according to your arbitrary definition. I brought up zionism. You brought up Jews by arbitrarily accusing me of antisemitism, based on your misguided and uninformed opinion.


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Why did you bring up "Zionist propaganda" when it has nothing to do with this thread?...
That's very much a matter of opinion and political perspective. How dare you presume to suggest that zionist propaganda couldn't possibly play any role in what's happening in Europe!

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...The current adventures in Ukraine and Syria won't improve the Russian position.
Remains to be seen.
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Old 25.01.2016, 08:15
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

What does "Zionist propaganda" have to do with a bridge on the black sea? If this bridge collapses, like the previous one, will you blame the "Zionist" for that too?
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Old 25.01.2016, 13:51
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You're making false assumptions.

Answering False Assumption #1: I happen to be part Jewish
You keep calling me a "Russophobe". I would also say you are making "false assumptions", but since I've told you that my family is half Russians, you aren't making "false assumptions" just false statements. Repeatedly.

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I brought up zionism. You brought up Jews
Wha? Like they aren't connected in any way?

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Answering False Assumption #2: I have neither said, nor implied, that zionism had anything in particular to do with Russia. Suggesting that I said or believe so is another baseless fabrication.

Nope, just an informed position uninfluenced by zionist propaganda.
Since you brought it up, so what does "Zionist propaganda" have to do with this thread then?
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Old 25.01.2016, 21:17
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What does "Zionist propaganda" have to do with a bridge on the black sea?...
I don't see where I've mentioned zionist propaganda and a bridge on the Black Sea in connection with each other — let alone in the same post. From where exactly do you get the idea that I think zionist propaganda has something to do with a bridge on the Black Sea?
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Old 25.01.2016, 22:50
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Zionism has nothing to do with Russia's military involvement in Ukraine, yet you brought it up. Why?

In the meantime, Russia's economy is shrinking and Russians are suffering.
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Zionism has nothing to do with Russia's military involvement in Ukraine, yet you brought it up. Why?

In the meantime, Russia's economy is shrinking and Russians are suffering.

About "Russians are suffering"
According to the FT today Russia has a 3.7% GDP fall in 2015 source here
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ce-take-effect


It is also claimed that Russians are cutting out winter holidays which is not surprising as prices have more than doubled in Crimea, Egypt is no longer available and Turkey visas are impossible!
Leaves Israel as the main option
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Zionism has nothing to do with Russia's military involvement in Ukraine...
On exactly what unequivocal basis of fact does that assertion rest (not that I've even mentioned in the immediate context anything about 'Russia's [alleged] military involvement in Ukraine')?

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...yet you brought it up. Why?...
To be completely clear: I 'brought up' not 'zionism' (as you suggest), but zionist propaganda — in direct answer to your query as to whether my definition of 'russophobic' was somehow connected with 'a Lada on a shoddily built bridge.'

Zionist propaganda has nothing more or less to do with 'Russia's military involvement in Ukraine' than with any other situation involving something less than peace in Europe or the Middle East.

That the US, the UK (and inevitably NATO) have been doing the bidding of zionist interests for decades is no secret. That zionist propaganda has ever sought to cloak that agenda with the appearance of anything but a zionist connection is likewise no secret.

In the end, that the 'enemies' of so-called 'Israel' have long been the 'enemies' of the US-driven perpetual war machine is rather difficult to deny in light of the historical facts. (Curious Westerners can begin scratching the surface here.)

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...In the meantime, Russia's economy is shrinking and Russians are suffering.
Such 'compassion' on the part of an (apparent) zionist is heartwarming, to say the least.
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Can everybody just stop calling people names please.
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Old 26.01.2016, 13:55
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On exactly what unequivocal basis of fact does that assertion rest (not that I've even mentioned in the immediate context anything about 'Russia's [alleged] military involvement in Ukraine')?



To be completely clear: I 'brought up' not 'zionism' (as you suggest), but zionist propaganda — in direct answer to your query as to whether my definition of 'russophobic' was somehow connected with 'a Lada on a shoddily built bridge.'

Zionist propaganda has nothing more or less to do with 'Russia's military involvement in Ukraine' than with any other situation involving something less than peace in Europe or the Middle East.

That the US, the UK (and inevitably NATO) have been doing the bidding of zionist interests for decades is no secret. That zionist propaganda has ever sought to cloak that agenda with the appearance of anything but a zionist connection is likewise no secret.

In the end, that the 'enemies' of so-called 'Israel' have long been the 'enemies' of the US-driven perpetual war machine is rather difficult to deny in light of the historical facts. (Curious Westerners can begin scratching the surface here.)



Such 'compassion' on the part of an (apparent) zionist is heartwarming, to say the least.
Zou claim that "Zionists" control the US/UK/NATO and are involved in all the violence happening in Europe and the middle east. However you called me an "Nato Minion" - you can't have both

Textbook antisemitism.
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Zou [sic] claim that "Zionists" control the US/UK/NATO and are involved in all the violence happening in Europe and the middle east. However you called me an "Nato Minion" - you can't have both
Kindly take my words at face value and stop the hyperbolic "interpretations"...

1. I have not claimed (as you falsely assert) that zionists "control" the US/UK/NATO. Instead, I simply said the US, the UK (and inevitably NATO) have been doing the bidding of zionist interests for decades. That doesn't mean they're all "controlled" by zionists. They do it voluntarily — not under anything remotely akin to recognizable "control" by zionists.

2. I have not claimed (as you falsely assert) that zionists are "involved in all the violence" happening in Europe and the Middle East. Instead, I simply said that the 'enemies' of so-called 'Israel' have long been the 'enemies' of the US-driven perpetual war machine, which is rather difficult to deny in light of the historical facts. The words 'involved in all the violence' are yours, not mine.

3. By calling you a 'NATO minion' I mean to say that you're so married to the US/NATO (and therefore zionist aligned) agenda that pro-Russian posts earn automatic groans from the likes of yourself. Being a 'NATO minion' and a zionist are very similar (if not identical) ideological positions. There is no conflict between them — no 'either or' — so you're attempting to create a false dichotomy by pretending 'you can't have both' when in fact you yourself are both: a zionist and a minion of the powers that serve zionist interests. Easy peasy.

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...Textbook antisemitism.
On the contrary, it is textbook zionism to slap an "antisemitism" label on anything against zionism — a classic bait-and-switch tactic that's as transparent as (and older than) glass. Zionism is not Judaism. Not all Jews are zionists — not by a long shot. So get over your hiding behind that false accusation. It won't work with me.
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The proposed 2017 [U.S.] defense budget will include $3.4 billion -- up from $789 million for the current budget year -- for what the Pentagon calls its European Reassurance Initiative. That program is meant to demonstrate a U.S. commitment to defense its NATO allies in Europe, who are increasingly concerned about Russia’s intentions after its incursions in Ukraine.
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Now you are believing Western media?
Never expected to see that
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But they were freeing the people from "Ukraine's Hitler" as somebody in this forum called Yanukovych.
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But they were freeing the people from "Ukraine's Hitler" as somebody in this forum called Yanukovych.
That's called projection.

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US tries to Re-Write Minsk II; Russia Says No

«Foreign Minister ‪‎Lavrov‬'s press conference shows that ‪Russia‬'s government at all levels REJECTS ‪‎US‬ attempts to re-write the terms of Minsk II Agreement for ‪Ukraine‬'s conflict settlement»
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For those who want to be independent of tv broadcasts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x98DwtghoI
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For those who want to be independent of tv broadcasts...
He said, as he posted a tv broadcast.
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