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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

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Too much to hope for that it would stay quiet!
Don't pretend to be blind. It all happens with a tacit consent of European powers.
They observe exactly the same "standards" as Obama/Trump administration does.
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Old 26.11.2018, 12:39
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Russian authorities closed off the Kerch Strait Sunday amid a confrontation with Ukrainian naval vessels, Russian state news agencies and the Ukrainian military said.

The Kerch Strait links the Azov Sea with the Black Sea.

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Too much to hope for that it would stay quiet!
As usual, Russia feels threatened.
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Old 19.04.2019, 00:13
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Really?

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Latest polling in Ukraine suggests that the actor and comedian Volodymyr Zelenskiy, who has eschewed traditional political campaigning and given little insight into his policy positions, is set to win a crushing victory in Sunday’s presidential election.

Zelenskiy is known for his television series Servant of the People in which he plays a history teacher who wins a shock victory in presidential elections.
Life stranger than fiction

He does not seem to have any political polices
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Old 01.03.2021, 18:23
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Old 04.12.2021, 17:25
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Oh! Bummer!
U.S. intelligence found that Russia is planning a military offensive against Ukraine involving 175,000 troops near the border as early as next year, according to an intelligence document who obtained by The Washington Post.

U.S. officials also spoke with the newspaper on the matter.

The document obtained by the Post shows Russia is planning to deploy 175,000 troops on the Ukraine border by early 2022. The document also contains satellite photos of the military buildup.
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Old 04.12.2021, 17:34
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U.S. intelligence found that Russia is planning a military offensive against Ukraine involving 175,000 troops near the border as early as next year, according to an intelligence document who obtained by The Washington Post.

U.S. officials also spoke with the newspaper on the matter.

The document obtained by the Post shows Russia is planning to deploy 175,000 troops on the Ukraine border by early 2022. The document also contains satellite photos of the military buildup.

Saw that as well this morning, and thought WTF - the news report stated that intelligence had indicated that Russia has well prepared plans to invade the Ukraine. Now those articles have been removed - no idea what is happening over there.
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Old 04.12.2021, 17:43
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

OK, here another source still: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/04/u...ine-biden.html
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Old 04.12.2021, 18:27
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

I blame Hunter
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Old 04.12.2021, 19:42
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

I suppose the Russian Arms manufacturers have had a disappointing few years and need to increase sales.

And their US counterparts are chomping at the bit.

Little chance it would go nuclear but millions of lives are at risk.

And the Chinese manufacturers are just drooling.
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Old 06.12.2021, 23:20
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

This is all very concerning. Expect a bumpy ride. The fact that the Russia-controlled gas storages in Western Europe have been left empty looks like a long planned political move now.

Biden Expected to Offer Warnings and Alternatives in Call With Putin https://nyti.ms/3xWRA25
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Old 06.12.2021, 23:54
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This is all very concerning. Expect a bumpy ride. The fact that the Russia-controlled gas storages in Western Europe have been left empty looks like a long planned political move now.

Biden Expected to Offer Warnings and Alternatives in Call With Putin https://nyti.ms/3xWRA25
Biden does not have much of a big stick to wave.

If the Russians really plan to have 175,000 troops on the Ukraine border then there is little the US can do in a military way, I am sure they will not go nuclear.

There are always sanctions but while Russia has Europe by the balls over gas then there is not much scope.

To quote Nixon "when you have someone by the balls then their heart and mind soon follow".

Germany really needs to reopen their nuclear sites.
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Old 22.01.2022, 21:12
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

US State Dept begins evacuation of nonessential staff from Ukraine.

If they are starting to pull the families out, some parts of the US gov. must feel Kyiv could soon be a war zone...and US are planning for a massive Russian invasion.

Any thoughts on how destabilising that could be for Western Europe?
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Old 22.01.2022, 21:31
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US State Dept begins evacuation of nonessential staff from Ukraine.

If they are starting to pull the families out, some parts of the US gov. must feel Kyiv could soon be a war zone...and US are planning for a massive Russian invasion.

Any thoughts on how destabilising that could be for Western Europe?
I also have seen the reports about the evaluation of the embassy staff and families. Very concerned … Energy crisis could be one of the consequences of the escalation.
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Old 22.01.2022, 22:00
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… Energy crisis could be one of the consequences of the escalation.
Putin/Russia is entitled to sell gas at whatever price they see fit.

If the West is willing to give up their moral principles for cheap gas, that says more about the West and their entitlement than about anyone else...
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Old 22.01.2022, 22:34
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Putin/Russia is entitled to sell gas at whatever price they see fit.

If the West is willing to give up their moral principles for cheap gas, that says more about the West and their entitlement than about anyone else...

When was the last time the West didn't give up their moral principles for cheap gas?

As for the evacuations - that's how Hollywood-movies about WW3 usually start.

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Old 22.01.2022, 22:59
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When was the last time the West didn't give up their moral principles for cheap gas?

As for the evacuations - that's how Hollywood-movies about WW3 usually start.

Speaking of which, are we going to see a nefarious German-Russian alliance this time around?
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

As much as I despise the despotic Putin and what he's turning Russia into, I've always wondered, what would have been Washington's response if the Russians or the Chinese open military bases in and sign military agreements of mutual defense with, say Mexico or Cuba?

Probably the biggest strategic mistake Ukraine has ever done was to trust the West that it will protect it against giving up it's nuclear weapons. Ukraine held roughly 1/3 of the USSR Nuclear arsenal and the deal in 1994 was, give it up, we will guarantee your safety.
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

I don’t see any reason for Russia to start a war, not one. They have only everything to lose. This is crazy.
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Old 23.01.2022, 11:42
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I don’t see any reason for Russia to start a war, not one. They have only everything to lose. This is crazy.
I also think it's not a matter of all-out-war, Moscow most probably doesn't plan seeing Russian tanks in Kiev. Indeed, Russia has much more to lose than gain in such a scenario.

BUT, a limited and controlled conflict in Donbas, which will not threaten the overall sovereignty of Ukraine, will allow the West to save face and "negotiate" with Putin and will allow Putin to further weaken Ukraine in order to be better able to control its internal politics. Ukraine is seen in Moscow as a "safety belt" and a strong Kiev, which is potentially a NATO member is a no-go for them.
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Old 23.01.2022, 12:23
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I don’t see any reason for Russia to start a war, not one. They have only everything to lose. This is crazy.
For sure- but then this is not about Russia, but about a psychopath named Putin, on the nuclear button.

Ever since the 70s, many of us have been very aware that the concept of MAD, which protected us through the Cold war and the Cuban crisis- may not hold forever, and that a crazed psychopath could well be tempted to try it.


The position of the UK / EU has not been clairified to redefined properly since Brexit. Will the UK choose to go it alone in support of the USA again? And at what cost?

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