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Russian Defence Ministry: NATO Preparing for Large-Scale High-Intensity Conflict With Moscow

https://sputniknews.com/20211227/nat...091840807.html


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Old 28.12.2021, 00:29
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Blah blah blah males aggressiveness blah blah blah angry males.



Why not give ethnic minorities all the rights they are entitled to, like, you know:

- the right to to affirm and be proud of your ethnic identity
- the right to be thought in your mother tongue
- the right to use your mother tongue in the justice system

etc. etc. etc.
Cannot agree more. Because if you don't, they tend to pursue secession. And often they succeed. Like Albanians in Kosovo, Turks in Cyprus, Crimeans from Ukraine; and then Catalonians from Spain, Serbs from BiH... you name it.
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Old 28.12.2021, 00:37
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Cannot agree more. Because if you don't, they tend to pursue secession. And often they succeed. Like Albanians in Kosovo, Turks in Cyprus, Crimeans from Ukraine; and then Catalonians from Spain, Serbs from BiH... you name it.
Crimeans? GTFO. You mean the few who are left in Crimea after the Soviets deported most of them and whose political parties are considered extremist by Russia?
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Crimeans? GTFO. You mean the few who are left in Crimea after the Soviets deported most of them and whose political parties are considered extremist by Russia?

Nope.
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Old 28.12.2021, 09:11
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Nope.
So who are your "Crimeans" then?
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Assuming that's true, why would Ukrainians do that?

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https://www.swp-berlin.org/publikati...-of-the-donbas
This is a bit older, but according to a recent report from "Deutsche Welle" it seems to be ongoing.
It makes sense: What claim would Kiev have if most people in the Donbas are Russian?
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So who are your "Crimeans" then?

search 'Crimea population'.

to make it easier for you, below is the link.

https://www.google.com/search?q=crim...hrome&ie=UTF-8
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Crimeans typically refers to the Crimea tatars. But how would you know?
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search 'Crimea population'.

to make it easier for you, below is the link.

https://www.google.com/search?q=crim...hrome&ie=UTF-8
That Crimea population are the ones who majority voted for independence from Russia in the referendum held on the Act of Declaration of Independence in Ukraine on 1 December 1991
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Let's get real. NATO is not an independent organization. NATO's most powerful countries by military strength are United States, United Kingdom, Turkey, France, Germany, Italy, Canada, Spain and the Netherlands. None of these countries will put the life of their soldiers and their economy (and their interests in Russia) in harm way by intervening in that part of Europe in case of Russian invasion whether these countries are part of NATO or not. Ukraine, Bulgaria, Romania, Moldova, Georgia are all corrupt and dirt poor countries and the three tiny Baltic states are meaningless. Combined, these eight countries have an annual GDP less than the annual GDP of Belgium .
If this was the case, Finland - which has a long border with Russia - would have already joined that organization.
And Turkey is cozying up with Russia: Erdogan will rather invade other NATO neighbors than defending the member states...while the UK will do anything to weaken and destabilize the EU.
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Crimeans typically refers to the Crimea tatars. But how would you know?
Yes, and Indiana population refers to long extinct Indians.

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That Crimea population are the ones who majority voted for independence from Russia in the referendum held on the Act of Declaration of Independence in Ukraine on 1 December 1991
Aha, and not those who voted to join Russia now. And not those whose majority votes kept Yanukovich as Ukrainian president?

Oh yes, I forgot, who cares what majority thinks - when little coup is sufficient to install a puppet government.

Well, so, as the saying goes...'you asked for it'.
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You can groan as much as you want - but this won't help neither Crimea nor Donbas ever becoming a part of Ukraine. This is what happens when you blatantly ignore democratic institutions/elections and install a puppet government. So now live with it.

Ironically, I really feel sorry for most Ukrainians who have been artificially forced into this fake conflict, despite most of them speaking Russian as their first language, and naturally being closer to Russia than the West.

So NATO played with fire, ousted Yanukovich but in return lost Crimea and Donbas. Hope it is a lesson learnt.
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You can groan as much as you want - but this won't help neither Crimea nor Donbas ever becoming a part of Ukraine. This is what happens when you blatantly ignore democratic institutions/elections and install a puppet government. So now live with it.

Ironically, I really feel sorry for most Ukrainians who have been artificially forced into this fake conflict, despite most of them speaking Russian as their first language, and naturally being closer to Russia than the West.

So NATO played with fire, ousted Yanukovich but in return lost Crimea and Donbas. Hope it is a lesson learnt.
I don't know where to start - so I will settle for a groan.
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A Ukraine Invasion Could Go Nuclear: 15 Reactors Would Be In War Zone

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Looks like the Putin-Biden talks are being suspended with Putin again demanding securities from "The West"
One would think that Nato would not have troops fighting Russians over Ukraine, itīs not logical, but when has logic interfered with the military mindset?
Nato wants to expand and encircle Russia, in my opinion the American military complex needs an enemy for itīs entire raison d'etre. And after they got their asses handed to them in Afghanistan they are dangerously low on enemies. Iraq was a bust, Iran did not want to play, South America was not interested, so they are trying to get China and Russia into a fight.
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This is a bit older, but according to a recent report from "Deutsche Welle" it seems to be ongoing.
It makes sense: What claim would Kiev have if most people in the Donbas are Russian?
Well, I accept the numbers but no about the narrative. It seems you need to have Russian residency (possibly as short as 3 months), I don't see why anyone who feels Ukrainian would use that.

Instead it will be ethnic or otherwise self-identified Russians who want that formalised, which would belie Ukraine's narrative. There will be many among those in the language table who give Russian as their main language who qualify here.

Imagine Germany occupying parts of Switzerland, I see only people who identify German already temporarily move to Germany to get that citizenship.
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Russia has just sent peace keeping troops into another ex Soviet republic, Kazakhstan.
Does anybody want to start a poll on how many years they will stay there?
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Ye gadīs and little catfish. I must admit I am starting to get a bit jittery. Every night now for the last two days the sirens have been going off, there are troops on the move on the Autobahn, there is extra security on the Luftwaffen bases around here, army equipment on trains and the fighter jets are in the air practicing intercept and refueling maneuvers.
The news is trying to tell me that everything is alright trallala, nothing to worry about trallalee. Just ikkle bit of practice.
Maybe you Swissies should start dusting off your bunkers in the cellar.
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Ye gadīs and little catfish. I must admit I am starting to get a bit jittery. Every night now for the last two days the sirens have been going off, there are troops on the move on the Autobahn, there is extra security on the Luftwaffen bases around here, army equipment on trains and the fighter jets are in the air practicing intercept and refueling maneuvers.
The news is trying to tell me that everything is alright trallala, nothing to worry about trallalee. Just ikkle bit of practice.
Maybe you Swissies should start dusting off your bunkers in the cellar.
Could be worst it could be 1983 and found ourselves on The Brink of a Nuclear War & not even known about.

1983 - The Brink of Apocalypse part 1

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The news is trying to tell me that everything is alright trallala, nothing to worry about trallalee. Just ikkle bit of practice.
Maybe you Swissies should start dusting off your bunkers in the cellar.
Maybe you Germans can persuade former HVA agent, Martin Rauch to come out of early retirement ( he would be 62 or 63 by now )
and save the world again just like he did in Deutschland 83.

Deutschland 83 - Opening titles
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Could be worst it could be 1983 and found ourselves on The Brink of a Nuclear War & not even known about.

1983 - The Brink of Apocalypse part 1



Maybe you Germans can persuade former HVA agent, Martin Rauch to come out of early retirement ( he would be 62 or 63 by now )
and save the world again just like he did in Deutschland 83.

Deutschland 83 - Opening titles
Able archer was a real threat to the Soviets, and somehow I canīt get over the feeling that it wasnīt "just" a wargame. Perhaps there was more to it than is known.
We had another one in ī95 when a sounding rocket was mistaken for an actual nuke launch and the "football" was activated for the first time.
There have been a few scares and not a few were stopped only by the whim of one person. One time the sun reflecting off clouds set off a series of events where the bombers were in the process of taking off and were stopped by some person in a jeep.
Thing is as precarious as it was there were at least rudimentary safeguards in place. Now after the cold war these safeguards have been dismantled.
And if you want sleepless nights think about that and wonder if "perimeter" is still active.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand
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