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Old 03.03.2014, 19:13
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World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Russia's Black Sea Fleet has told Ukrainian forces in Crimea to surrender by 3am or face a military assault.

One of the few time I agree with Merkel "Vladimir Putin has lost the plot, says German chancellor, Angela Merkel describes Russian president as 'out of touch with reality' after urging him to back down from Crimea occupation"
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Old 03.03.2014, 19:33
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17:18: Interfax-Russia news agency is now quoting a spokesman for the Russian Black Sea Fleet denying reports about an ultimatum being issued to the Ukrainian troops in Crimea. "This is nonsense", a spokesman said. "We are getting used to daily reports accusing us of preparing to military action against our Ukrainian colleagues. We will not be pushed towards a head-on confrontation."
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Hell if anyone knows what is even happening now, not to mention what will happen tomorrow.
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Old 03.03.2014, 19:38
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

This is point where I generally check a map to find out how far I'm away from whatever's brewing.

Not quite far enough is the answer this time.
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This is point where I generally check a map to find out how far I'm away from whatever's brewing.

Not quite far enough is the answer this time.
LOL - So true. It does not matter how far we are we are all effected by this mess!!!!!!
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Old 21.03.2014, 14:55
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Putin says thanks for being so cool:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/tha...rything,35584/
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Old 24.03.2014, 09:41
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

http://www.thelocal.ch/20140320/ioc-invites-putin

It'll be a bit difficult won't it. Haven't they slapped a travel ban on him?
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Putin says thanks for being so cool:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/tha...rything,35584/
Amusing and amazing EXCEPT that Vladmir I , sorry I mean Vladimir Putin, is NOT interested in the Ukraine, but in having the Crimea as a strategic plaform in the Mediterranean. Which it is not yet of course, but he will pursue three options. An Anatolian corridor of railways and highways in transit between Trabzon and Iskenderun, a comprehensive treaty with Turkey about Bosporus and Dardanelles, or a Sofia-Saloniki Macedonian Corridor
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Given the fact that Britain and the US signed a treaty in 1994 pledging to protect Ukraine and all its borders in return for giving up nuclear weapons...seems like there could be a big problem ahead.
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Old 03.03.2014, 19:44
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Given the fact that Britain and the US signed a treaty in 1994 pledging to protect Ukraine and all its borders in return for giving up nuclear weapons...seems like there could be a big problem ahead.
Yeah. Hopefully, we will not get to see how much those words are worth.
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Old 03.03.2014, 19:51
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Maybe they'll find a way to get Putin back to the negotiating table, then let him take Ukraine anyway.
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Old 03.03.2014, 20:57
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Maybe they'll find a way to get Putin back to the negotiating table, then let him take Ukraine anyway.
Like Hitler and Sudetenland you mean?
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Old 03.03.2014, 21:08
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Given the fact that Britain and the US signed a treaty in 1994 pledging to protect Ukraine and all its borders in return for giving up nuclear weapons...seems like there could be a big problem ahead.
Britain, once had a treaty with Poland, too, many years ago.
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Old 03.03.2014, 23:53
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Britain, once had a treaty with Poland, too, many years ago.
The mess 100 years ago also came about because of treaties.

Perhaps the latest Swiss vote will start a new trend in breaking them.

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The mess 100 years ago also came about because of treaties.

Perhaps the latest Swiss vote will start a new trend in breaking them.

Tom
Sorry but wrong term. In modern diplomacy it is described as renegotiating and not as breaking. just as the war ministries of the past long ago became Ministries of Defence --- Correct language is sooooo important
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Old 03.03.2014, 21:16
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Given the fact that Britain and the US signed a treaty in 1994 pledging to protect Ukraine and all its borders in return for giving up nuclear weapons...seems like there could be a big problem ahead.


Yea right Hahahahaha
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Re: World War 3 or just a local spat in Ukraine?

Americans are utterly exhaused after nearly 25 years of fake wars and chasing our tails in the desert and Africa. in other words, there will be absolutely zero US involvement in Ukraine's situation with Russia beyond the usual "talks" and "diplomacy". which is fine by me, we could use a couple of decades of isolationism, let Russia continue on the inevitable path it is already on.
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Yea right Hahahahaha
If you don't believe this true, try to google 'The Budapest Memorandom 1994'. They promised to protect the Ukraine and it's borders.

Kiev are now calling on Britain and the US to intervene.
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Old 03.03.2014, 22:53
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If you don't believe this true, try to google 'The Budapest Memorandom 1994'. They promised to protect the Ukraine and it's borders.

Kiev are now calling on Britain and the US to intervene.
Britain and the US are powerless to intervene either strategically or diplomatically. Putin has all the cards and knows full well that the west can only threaten with sanctions. At which point supplies of natural gas and raw minerals may no longer head west.
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Old 03.03.2014, 23:11
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If you don't believe this true, try to google 'The Budapest Memorandom 1994'. They promised to protect the Ukraine and it's borders.

Kiev are now calling on Britain and the US to intervene.

Yes I know its true , the promises .But the doing it I lough at
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Old 15.03.2014, 22:50
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Given the fact that Britain and the US signed a treaty in 1994 pledging to protect Ukraine and all its borders in return for giving up nuclear weapons...seems like there could be a big problem ahead.
Seems that Russia signed the same treaty?

Next question?
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