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Old 15.03.2014, 17:18
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

Somali pirates are tired getting wet when hijacking ships and having to do lengthy laundry afterwards. They switched business to airplanes now...it's cleaner.

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I'm still waiting to hear Assassin's views on the subject.
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I'm still waiting to hear Assassin's views on the subject.
I think his silence on the subject says more than most of the posts on this thread.
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I think his silence on the subject says more than most of the posts on this thread.
Suppose he waits for information which can be taken seriously

even if such info may well be sad and tragic
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

Perhaps the pilot was inspired by Tintin

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Bound for an Astronautical Congress in Australia. Tintin, Snowy, Captain Haddock and Professor Calculus accept a lift in the private jet of Laszlo Carreidas, the millionaire who never laughs. The plane is hi-jacked, and the millionaire and his guests are landed on a Pacific island. Their old enemy Rastapopoulos awaits them. Using a truth drug on Carreidas, he hopes to extract the number of the millionaire's secret Swiss bank account, but, thanks to Tintin, his plans go strangely awry.
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Old 16.03.2014, 15:15
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You're late to the party... Please see post 161 of this thread below.

Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 missing
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It was easy to miss
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

I'm thinking the hi-jackers landed in Switzerland…. no-body noticed as it was out of hours!

Seriously though, this is weird. I'm fascinated to know the aim of the hijacker & if the a/craft has landed or crashed. However, if it has crashed I think it is unlikely that it will be found anytime soon….. if it has landed, we probably don't want to know what will happen next
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

It interesting the claims about the radar.

Oz seems to have a fairly decent system that should have seen it if came south



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jindale..._Radar_Network

And the last know location is some where in this area



Either there is a very frightening hole in the air radar systems of a number of countries or we are not getting the full story ..
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Old 16.03.2014, 23:13
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I hear Aceh's lovely in the spring.
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Old 17.03.2014, 02:48
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if it has landed, we probably don't want to know what will happen next
I would. I think it's far a better for those passengers to be still alive, then to "deal with" hearing about their scenario.
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Old 17.03.2014, 03:27
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The pilot reportedly had quite a flight simulator setup in his home. Hopefully some experts will be able to retrieve data on where he was practicing to fly. May offer additional clues (or not).
I have been in Malaysia over the weekend and this was all the rage in the local media. The pilot had a computer and dared to play flight simulators on it... Fun fact: I happen to know several airline pilots. ALL of them have a flight simulator at home! It is nothing that indicates any terrorist plot but simply that they really love what they are doing.


IMHO was this "story" just blown out of proportion to fill newspapers. After all did they president announce that it took them only a week to "confirm" their radar data... and that their incompetence let the international help comb the completely wrong ocean. Discussing potential terrorists is then the much better choice for state controlled media.

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Unlikely but probable! The most sophisticated search has revealed nada so its possible especially given most of the transmission tools in the plane seem to have been turned off deliberately. Add to this the passengers with false passports who simply just boarded.

Until they find it anything is possible including countries allowing it to pass without challenge

I would challenge the most sophisticated part. As revealed on Saturday was Malaysia sitting on their data for a week. Not very sophisticated at all, was it?
If Malaysia, a country with a higher GDP per capita than Turkey (or many Eastern European EU states) does not manage to figure out what their radar told them within a week would I not expect very much from the considerably poorer countries in the proposed flight path from Bangladesh over Nepal, Bhutan or some of the "-istans"... they'd probably not even recognize it unless somebody asks them to check their records- which did not happen till last weekend. They are most certainly not on the same level as Europe, Russia or the US where an unaccounted radar signal would cause the military to let an interceptor have a look at it.


In short - if there is any place on this planet where one can let a plane disappear over land - central Asia would probably be it.
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Old 17.03.2014, 04:52
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I have been in Malaysia over the weekend and this was all the rage in the local media. The pilot had a computer and dared to play flight simulators on it... Fun fact: I happen to know several airline pilots. ALL of them have a flight simulator at home! It is nothing that indicates any terrorist plot but simply that they really love what they are doing.
Do they all have one as elaborate as this? This is way more than just a computer to play on at home as you describe it. Still, it may or may not mean anything. It is all speculation at this point and the simulator could be another red herring.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...simulator.html
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I hope and prey for the best, BUT will accept the worst
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Old 17.03.2014, 09:13
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I would. I think it's far a better for those passengers to be still alive, then to "deal with" hearing about their scenario.
If the aircraft has landed, it doesn't mean the passengers are alive. I find it hard to beleive that none of them would have got a text message out if they were.

The aircraft apparently went up to very high altitude, then back down. Possible depressurisation & induce hypoxia?
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Old 17.03.2014, 09:25
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

Why aren't there any reports of passengers attempting to contact their loved ones?

Is it because:
a. there was no reception in the area they were flying
b. their was no forewarning of impending danger
c. passengers have been under death threats not to use any devices
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Old 17.03.2014, 09:34
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Do they all have one as elaborate as this? This is way more than just a computer to play on at home as you describe it.
It's a gamer PC with three monitors and some flight simulator panel. Every pilot shop has the controller available and yes, my friend also had some of that Saitek stuff you see in the background of the video.Less than 300 CHF... Hard to believe for non-gamers, but that is not that special or expensive these days. Too expensive for kids, but the type of thing a grown man buys if gaming is his hobby: https://www.sportys.com/PilotShop/category/992

But to answer your question: I made my private pilot license in the middle of the 90s, PCs looked a bit different back then. But a friend of mine spend days and weeks playing the Microsoft flight simulator. Even won a competition that got him into to the really big and expensive simulator Lufthansa used for training. As soon as he finished his military service did he start training as a commercial pilot. He was not the only one in his class that was rather nerdy and a computer gamer. Giving the technology involved in commercial aviation these days is it more the norm than the exception. But these were the 90s. Past 9/11 would probably somebody call a cop if a teenager plays too much with flight simulators. Must be a terrorist, no?

Or to put it differently: The guys hijacking the planes for 9/11 needed a simulator to practice flying a plane as they were not fully trained pilots and did not have access to real planes as engineering exchange students in Hamburg. They did not invest into something as cool as this one, but just put the game on a laptop... This gentleman has been a pilot for three decades and really does not need to train at home to fly his plane wherever he wants to. 18000 logged flight hours should be enough for that. Pretending this simulator is anything like a clue is just silly.

The cops raided his home on Saturday. With the current pressure especially from China would they by now parade any somewhat interesting finding.

I think it boils down to: They have no idea what happened at this moment. I think it is perfectly correct to investigate into all directions, but parading some images of the guy and his simulator without the slightest clue of him having anything done or planned is just wrong. If it was Europe and the Blick or the daily mail did so would I not question it a bit. If the same happens in a country where all newspapers are "a bit more" steered by the government is it just sad... they just want to give people something to discuss about to gain some time and lower the public pressure. Sadly does it seem to be working.
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Do they all have one as elaborate as this? This is way more than just a computer to play on at home as you describe it. Still, it may or may not mean anything. It is all speculation at this point and the simulator could be another red herring.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...simulator.html
I've seen way more elaborate ones put together by sim hobbiests. I'd say for a pilot and enthusiast that that's a pretty bare bones sim pit.

Take a look here https://www.google.ch/search?q=sim+p...w=1351&bih=826
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Why aren't there any reports of passengers attempting to contact their loved ones?

Is it because:
a. there was no reception in the area they were flying
b. their was no forewarning of impending danger
c. passengers have been under death threats not to use any devices
You do not have reception at 35,000 feet. Cell towers are build to only send out signals horizontally, so everything over a few hundred feet gets very bad. As high as they were virtually impossible (unless the plane is fitted with a GSM system, which it was not)... yes, I know: it's normal that it works in Hollywood movies and it did in some instances as 9/11 when the planes were flying VERY low over densely populated areas with good networks.
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If the aircraft has landed, it doesn't mean the passengers are alive. I find it hard to beleive that none of them would have got a text message out if they were.

The aircraft apparently went up to very high altitude, then back down. Possible depressurisation & induce hypoxia?
No need to increase height, just switch the pack or engine bleed off.
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