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An international terrorist looking for a long range plane to "weaponize" would logically neither steal one nor buy one... as we can see right now is stealing a stupid idea - people will look for it, especially if you steal it with passengers on board. Buying on the other hand is damn expensive. Short term rental or leasing sounds more reasonably priced...
I don't think I've read the words "terrorist" and "reasonably priced" ever before in the same paragraph
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If the plane does turn up as a crash site through some malfunction, either human or mechanical, I hope the world's media prints enough apologies to the families of the pilots and flight engineer, whose private lives and whatever political leanings they have/had have been picked over, which has achieved nothing but to demonise them.
That train has left the station quite a while ago.

Even the passengers aren't really a consideration anymore - it's all about finding that damned plane and blaming it on someone else.
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If the plane does turn up as a crash site through some malfunction, either human or mechanical, I hope the world's media prints enough apologies to the families of the pilots and flight engineer, whose private lives and whatever political leanings they have/had have been picked over, which has achieved nothing but to demonise them.
Yes, they were homing in on the older pilot this morning. At least one expert interviewed recently was saying that a technical fault was still possible. I keep wondering whether the media reports are helping to deflect away from national incompetence, e.g. on airline safety, especially given signs in that direction, such as allowing people to travel by air with false passports and getting witchdoctors into the airport to perform rituals to locate the plane. The conflicting statements from national officials right at the start did not inspire confidence, despite all the medals and gold epaulettes. But perhaps information coming out of that region is reliable and has nothing to do with trying to save face.
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Old 18.03.2014, 11:28
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Well, if they climbed to 45k ft and depressurized the cabin, most of those folks would have died fairly quickly which would solve that problem fairly quickly. ( http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/18/wo...gers.html?_r=0 )

Overall, I'm trying not to have nightmares about a flash of light over NYC or Boston in the near future as it's probably likely that it's possible these folks, whomever they are, are in possession of a 777, could weaponize it and fly it halfway around the globe with nobody able to figure it out until it's far too late. Ass meet flashlight and pair of hands.
Although I still think Hypoxia will be found out to play a role in this whole bizzare situation, I still wonder why a passenger Jet was involved.

Even if the option was to steal a plane, weaponise it, and use it at a later date....... why steal a passenger jet, when a Cargo freight plane is already empty inside and easier to weaponise.
You could even install larger fuel tanks and extend the range of the aircraft.

239 people on the other hand (less whoever is involved with this). What do you do with them?

The Hostage situation seems plausible at this point. Killing that many people just to steal a plane seems a bit absurd - even for someone planning mass destruction.
It's going to make it hard to keep a "Low Profile" while the ENTIRE GLOBE is looking for that plane.
..... "Gee, if we just knocked of a Fed Ex plane, nobody would notice."
(Even if Tom Hanks was inside)


The plane has either crashed, or landed in the meantime. If it landed, then there are far more people involved in this stunt than anyone anticipated.


Runway length,
A 777 needs between 2,500m to 3,500m for take off (depending on the model).... but need far less to land.
There was an instance recently in the US where a plane landed at the wrong airport, and the runway was a bit short.
They had to modify the aircraft to get it off the ground, and this wasn't easy (especially not for the ballsy pilot who had to take the risk).


The whole PPRuNe thread discussing this has fallen into a pile of crap with a billion newbies throwing their two cents and scaring off all the usual posters, so it's almost useless to find out what's going on.
The media are still out all guns blazing selling bullshit in the meantime, and there are now so many stories, it's impossible to keep up to speed with what is fact and what is fiction.

Personally, I give up.

Someone has to be caught out and made to talk. Then we will find the plane and find out what happened.
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Old 18.03.2014, 11:41
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Certainly, but there must be a huge grey market on retired machines, which are still capable to fly and don't necessarily have to be sold by Boeng/Airbus.

737-200 for just $750k in Jordan.

http://www.aso.com/listings/Aircraft..._id=Commercial
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Old 18.03.2014, 12:07
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I don't think I've read the words "terrorist" and "reasonably priced" ever before in the same paragraph


I think it is quite common in terrorist arms bazaars on the Russian border...


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I think it is quite common in terrorist arms bazaars on the Russian border...
I would imagine that 90's British spy camera at '42sec-46sec' is going cheap these days.
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I don't like the colour. And the MFK's overdue.
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. . . . The whole PPRuNe thread discussing this has fallen into a pile of crap with a billion newbies throwing their two cents and scaring off all the usual posters, so it's almost useless to find out what's going on.
Whoah there! With all due respect to you - we don`t OWN this thread - where`s the logic in newbies not knowing any more than `the usual posters`? - there may well be new members that know considerably more than we do (in terms of avaition/security issues)
The fact is, that many of the `usual posters`glean their knowledge from google and apart from what we read in the media . . we know jack shit.
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Old 18.03.2014, 13:09
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

China are searching their territory for the plane now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26609569
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China are searching their territory for the plane now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26609569
A bit late to the party IMO.
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Whoah there! With all due respect to you - we don`t OWN this thread - where`s the logic in newbies not knowing any more than `the usual posters`? - there may well be new members that know considerably more than we do (in terms of avaition/security issues)
The fact is, that many of the `usual posters`glean their knowledge from google and apart from what we read in the media . . we know jack shit.
I am confused now; are we talking about the PPRuNe forum or the English Forum - your comments are valid either way
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Yes, they were homing in on the older pilot this morning. At least one expert interviewed recently was saying that a technical fault was still possible. I keep wondering whether the media reports are helping to deflect away from national incompetence, e.g. on airline safety, especially given signs in that direction, such as allowing people to travel by air with false passports and getting witchdoctors into the airport to perform rituals to locate the plane. The conflicting statements from national officials right at the start did not inspire confidence, despite all the medals and gold epaulettes. But perhaps information coming out of that region is reliable and has nothing to do with trying to save face.
And here was me believing in New Technology things like satelites!

When one reads/hears about how a person can be traced using their cell-phone, and aeroplanes have those Black Boxes that are virtually indestructable - howcome a huge aeroplane full of people (probably also carrying mobile electronic devices) cannot be traced by satelite?
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Whoah there! With all due respect to you - we don`t OWN this thread - where`s the logic in newbies not knowing any more than `the usual posters`? - there may well be new members that know considerably more than we do (in terms of avaition/security issues)
The fact is, that many of the `usual posters`glean their knowledge from google and apart from what we read in the media . . we know jack shit.
Whoah there ?
We're a forum about living in Switzerland - this is just a topic of interest so we (inclusive of newbies) can say whatever we want.
We have plenty of forum members here who work in the aviation industry who will definitely know more about this topic than anyone who has posted here already, but they are all pretty quiet about this.

PPRuNe is an aviation specific forum, and generally a very apt one at that.
Sure there are new posters on there who know what they are talking about. One of the best posts I read was by a 777 pilot with 5 posts or something.
.... I was talking about the bulk of the newbies who just post shit (or repeat questions).
Most of their recent newbies discovered the site from the media and just regurgitate the same dribble they read elsewhere.
I wasn't taking a swipe at newbies, but it's easy to see how irritating this becomes after 200 pages.




Now back to our little forum in a country where Ethiopian pilots feel free to just pop in for a visit, please continue.
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And here was me believing in New Technology things like satelites!

When one reads/hears about how a person can be traced using their cell-phone, and aeroplanes have those Black Boxes that are virtually indestructable - howcome a huge aeroplane full of people (probably also carrying mobile electronic devices) cannot be traced by satelite?
Take the battery out of a cell phone and see if you can track it.

Similar thing in this case. The transponder and other detection devices were disabled intentionally so the place couldn't be traced.

Radars are usually land based, and not everywhere, so if you plot a known course (and if your're good enough), you can lower your risk of detection.


If the plane landed in a remote location, then I guess it might be hard to locate the phone - but I don't know what they've done. Nobody knows.
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You don't think that somebody who could pull this off, "weaponize" a jet and fly it halfway around the world would have the necessary means to purchase they own jet, rather than stealing one?
yeah sure... "pls address the invoice to Al Qaida Aviation..."

oh and by the way.. Will you take cash for that plane??
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I don't like the colour. And the MFK's overdue.
Yeah but if he drops the price by 30%.....
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The most plausible explanation (to me at least) without all that creepy conspiracy theory stuff.


Chris Goodfellow

MH370 A different point of view. Pulau Langkawi 13,000 runway.

A lot of speculation about MH370. Terrorism, hijack, meteors. I cannot believe the analysis on CNN - almost disturbing. I tend to look for a more simple explanation of this event.

Loaded 777 departs midnight from Kuala to Beijing. Hot night. Heavy aircraft. About an hour out across the gulf towards Vietnam the plane goes dark meaning the transponder goes off and secondary radar tracking goes off.

Two days later we hear of reports that Malaysian military radar (which is a primary radar meaning the plane is being tracked by reflection rather than by transponder interrogation response) has tracked the plane on a southwesterly course back across the Malay Peninsula into the straits of Malacca.

When I heard this I immediately brought up Google Earth and I searched for airports in proximity to the track towards southwest.

The left turn is the key here. This was a very experienced senior Captain with 18,000 hours. Maybe some of the younger pilots interviewed on CNN didn't pick up on this left turn. We old pilots were always drilled to always know the closest airport of safe harbor while in cruise. Airports behind us, airports abeam us and airports ahead of us. Always in our head. Always. Because if something happens you don't want to be thinking what are you going to do - you already know what you are going to do. Instinctively when I saw that left turn with a direct heading I knew he was heading for an airport. Actually he was taking a direct route to Palau Langkawi a 13,000 foot strip with an approach over water at night with no obstacles. He did not turn back to Kuala Lampur because he knew he had 8,000 foot ridges to cross. He knew the terrain was friendlier towards Langkawi and also a shorter distance.

Take a look on Google Earth at this airport. This pilot did all the right things. He was confronted by some major event onboard that made him make that immediate turn back to the closest safe airport.
For me the loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense if a fire. There was most likely a fire or electrical fire. In the case of fire the first response if to pull all the main busses and restore circuits one by one until you have isolated the bad one.


If they pulled the busses the plane indeed would go silent. It was probably a serious event and they simply were occupied with controlling the plane and trying to fight the fire. Aviate, Navigate and lastly communicate. There are two types of fires. Electrical might not be as fast and furious and there might or might not be incapacitating smoke. However there is the possibility given the timeline that perhaps there was an overheat on one of the front landing gear tires and it blew on takeoff and started slowly burning. Yes this happens with underinflated tires. Remember heavy plane, hot night, sea level, long run takeoff. There was a well known accident in Nigeria of a DC8 that had a landing gear fire on takeoff. A tire fire once going would produce horrific incapacitating smoke. Yes, pilots have access to oxygen masks but this is a no no with fire. Most have access to a smoke hood with a filter but this will only last for a few minutes depending on the smoke level. (I used to carry one of my own in a flight bag and I still carry one in my briefcase today when I fly).

What I think happened is that they were overcome by smoke and the plane just continued on the heading probably on George (autopilot) until either fuel exhaustion or fire destroyed the control surfaces and it crashed. I said four days ago you will find it along that route - looking elsewhere was pointless.

This pilot, as I say, was a hero struggling with an impossible situation trying to get that plane to Langkawi. No doubt in my mind. That's the reason for the turn and direct route. A hijack would not have made that deliberate left turn with a direct heading for Langkawi. It would probably have weaved around a bit until the hijackers decided on where they were taking it.

Surprisingly none of the reporters , officials, other pilots interviewed have looked at this from the pilot's viewpoint. If something went wrong where would he go? Thanks to Google earth I spotted Langkawi in about 30 seconds, zoomed in and saw how long the runway was and I just instinctively knew this pilot knew this airport. He had probably flown there many times. I guess we will eventually find out when you help me spread this theory on the net and some reporters finally take a look on Google earth and put 2 and 2 together. Also a look at the age and number of cycles on those nose tires might give us a good clue too.

Fire in an aircraft demands one thing - you get the machine on the ground as soon as possible. There are two well remembered experiences in my memory. The AirCanada DC9 which landed I believe in Columbus Ohio in the eighties. That pilot delayed descent and bypassed several airports. He didn't instinctively know the closest airports. He got it on the ground eventually but lost 30 odd souls. In the 1998 crash of Swissair DC-10 off Nova Scotia was another example of heroic pilots. They were 15 minutes out of Halifax but the fire simply overcame them and they had to ditch in the ocean. Just ran out of time. That fire incidentally started when the aircraft was about an hour out of Kennedy. Guess what the transponders and communications were shut off as they pulled the busses.


Get on Google Earth and type in Pulau Langkawi and then look at it in relation to the radar track heading. 2+2=4 That for me is the simple explanation why it turned and headed in that direction.

Smart pilot. Just didn't have the time.

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Langkawi
Can't see that one - there's a lot of flaws in his arguements. Kota Bahru would have been closer and made more sense from the last known position of the aircraft (if he was sufficiently in control to turn he would also have been sufficiently in control to initiate the necessary emergency descent). On crossing the "8000 foot ridges", these do not affect the KL approaches and in flight he would also have to cross pretty much the same type of terrain on the way to Langkawi. Langkawi airport is generally more terrain affected near the airport, KL is pretty well completely flat. He would also for sure have sent an SOS out (as the Swissair did at Halifax).

Continuing the heading would have taken him over India - and it is not concievable that they would have not noticed it unless it was delibrately hidden by flying low or possibly (can't judge that one) by hiding behind/above another commercial airliner.

For me it's more interesting that the heading took him almost directly along the Malaysia/Thailand border thus helping both sides there to see the unidentified flight as the other's problem or at least not moving into their territory.

BTW the plane might have been full of PAX but certainly not of fuel. It can fly a lot further than 6 hours (plus reserves).
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Take the battery out of a cell phone and see if you can track it.

Similar thing in this case. The transponder and other detection devices were disabled intentionally so the place couldn't be traced.

Radars are usually land based, and not everywhere, so if you plot a known course (and if your're good enough), you can lower your risk of detection.


If the plane landed in a remote location, then I guess it might be hard to locate the phone - but I don't know what they've done. Nobody knows.

mobile phone jammers can be bought for peanuts and are very good in confined spaces too
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