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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

I bet that the Chinese authorities would publish it ASAP if this were the case. Actually, I think they DO kindof hope that this is a terrorist attack from the Islam race. It would be an excuse for them to control these minor races even more heavily in the future in the pretext of anti-terrorist.
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I doubt its a bomb as no one has claimed responsibility.
Actually there is precident for this (no-one claiming) so I wouldn't rule it out.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

CNN: A sample of the found oil slick has been analysed and it is bunker oil, not from the aircraft
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Old 10.03.2014, 14:24
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CNN: A sample of the found oil slick has been analysed and it is bunker oil, not from the aircraft
The debris spotted has also been ruled out

http://news.sky.com/story/1223246/mi...emains-mystery
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Old 10.03.2014, 14:34
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I bet that the Chinese authorities would publish it ASAP if this were the case. Actually, I think they DO kindof hope that this is a terrorist attack from the Islam race. It would be an excuse for them to control these minor races even more heavily in the future in the pretext of anti-terrorist.
The what now?

Sorry, you've lost me.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

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this is a terrorist attack from the Islam race. It would be an excuse for them to control these minor races

Here is a little bit of light reading for you happyrobbie. I know you meant well, but wow.

Islam:
  • Islam is a religion, not an ethnic race of people
  • It's not 'minor', Islam is the worlds second largest religion
  • More people practice Islam than the population of China

Let's not speculate on terrorism at the moment.
Nobody knows where the plane is, let alone why it went down.... or if it has gone down for that matter.
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Old 10.03.2014, 14:53
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The what now?
Homo-Muslimian. Or something. Closely related to Capra-Scapum.


Oh, hang on. Defininitely not homo...
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

Hi. I need to make some clarification.
First, I apologize that I did not properly use the word Islam/Muslim... etc.

Second, Please note that I was replying to Reb77Br. We were talking possibilities of terrorist attack, and he said that perhaps the Chinese government already know that this is related to Muslim separatists, just like the attack happened in Kunmin/China some days ago. We all know that it was due to problems between the majority Han race and a muslim race which is minority in China which has been heavily controlled.

Then I said that if it were true (the missing plane is related to an terrorist attack of the muslim minorities), Chinese government would be far more than happy to announce it, as this could be their excuse to control this minor race even more. I was talking about muslim people in China.

I do not have any offense to the Islam religion or the Muslim people in general. Thank you.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

As no debris so far it tends to indicate controlled flight rather than a mid air break up but there is so much crap in tge thailand gulf there will be a lot of false hits.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

There are quite a few people speculating on a Profession Pilots Rumor site that I follow (www.PPRuNe.org) that think it may be a hijacking. I believe it is a remote possibility, but very strange that no wreckage has been found after tow days. If a plane disintegrates at 35K ft, the debris trail would be quite large. And why no signals from the transponders?

Lots of things do not add up right now, which also has led to speculation that one or more gov'ts are sitting on the story and not releasing any news (could have been shot down, for instance).

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There are quite a few people speculating on a Profession Pilots Rumor site that I follow (www.PPRuNe.org) that think it may be a hijacking. I believe it is a remote possibility, but very strange that no wreckage has been found after tow days. If a plane disintegrates at 35K ft, the debris trail would be quite large. And why no signals from the transponders?

Lots of things do not add up right now, which also has led to speculation that one or more gov'ts are sitting on the story and not releasing any news (could have been shot down, for instance).

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If it were a hijacking, why was there all of a sudden no signal from the plane?
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

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There are quite a few people speculating on a Profession Pilots Rumor site that I follow (www.PPRuNe.org) that think it may be a hijacking. I believe it is a remote possibility, but very strange that no wreckage has been found after tow days. If a plane disintegrates at 35K ft, the debris trail would be quite large. And why no signals from the transponders?

Lots of things do not add up right now, which also has led to speculation that one or more gov'ts are sitting on the story and not releasing any news (could have been shot down, for instance).

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Yeah, there are just too many guesses and unconfirmed news everywhere. The only confirmed thing is that 1. it's missing; 2. no wreckage up to now despite extensive search.

I did not hear anything about the black box (flight data recorder). I'm just a layman. Someone could explain it? Should we be able to detect the signal of black box if it is in the sea? (the water depth of the Gulf of Thailand is only 30-70 meters)? Is the signal detestable in a large area? For how long?
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

Not sure, but apparently if you know how to do it, one could "unplug" all of the signaling equipment. And if you were to descend under about 500 ft, you would be under radar. This is just what I have been reading, as I am in now way an expert on this.

Seems that the theory that there is gov't involvement keeping the story quiet is the most popular... not sure which gov't it is supposed to be.


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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

My totally wild guess based on no debris field or eyewitness reports of explosions is that the plane was hijacked and flown to a remote airfield somewhere. Maybe for the plane itself, maybe for ransom from passengers' families. I agree one or more governments must be hiding info. It's just too bizarre in this over-connected day and age to not have ANY information as to what happened.

We've observed on flightradar that there is apparently a radar dead zone around the area where the plane disappeared. If you look at flights on the same route the day before, they disappear briefly in that area and reappear later. If a pilot knew that, he could theoretically have descended below radar level while in the dead zone and continued flying to a different location even a few thousand miles away (plenty of fuel). Although again this just doesn't seem plausible to be flying a 777 at low altitude and no one notices.
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If it were a hijacking, why was there all of a sudden no signal from the plane?
They could have turned the transponder off.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

lol... you are exactly right! I am a member for several years now, but never posted. I use it mainly to get insiders info about events like AF447 or MH370. Though I have to say, the quality of this latest thread is lacking. Too many posters who are not pilots have discovered the site and contributing crap...


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They could have turned the transponder off.
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Old 10.03.2014, 16:32
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lol... you are exactly right! I am a member for several years now, but never posted. I use it mainly to get insiders info about events like AF447 or MH370. Though I have to say, the quality of this latest thread is lacking. Too many posters who are not pilots have discovered the site and contributing crap...
They made a fatal mistake a couple of years back when the new comercial owners made everone register after a handful of views. If you are registered it is far too enticing to post sh1t.

Bit like the newbies wanting to sell something on here really
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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

That was my thought too but how easy is it to do this?

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight missing

I think that there are multiple communications systems that would need to be shut off. But I am sure that anyone determined enough to hijack a plane could figure out how to do this.

I think the more difficult part would have been to cut off all communications with mobile phones/devices belonging to passengers and crew. Even if the passengers were "disposed of" or incapacitated, their devices would still connect to networks, especially if the plane were flying under radar or had landed somewhere.

So still quite a mystery.

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I think the more difficult part would have been to cut off all communications with mobile phones/devices belonging to passengers and crew. Even if the passengers were "disposed of" or incapacitated, their devices would still connect to networks, especially if the plane were flying under radar or had landed somewhere.
Not necessarily, if that would be the case, they could have easily used a mobile phone jammer.
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