sigh.

no, i meant a different post, and just in general.

Evidence of what? That settlers protest too? Good for them! What does that prove? That there is some conspiracy of preferencial treatment??

Since I was criticized before for linking to an unreliable newspaper, let me state that Haaretz is not what one would consider reliable. Just last week I was reseaching a confirmed rumour, and guess what? It was in Haaretz. I wont get into tuhe fact of being a platform for bashing Israelis and Jews at just about every opportunity. One sided reporting is fine just make sure its accurate. Naming a newspaper a hebrew name doesnt make them the experts on what goes on in israel.

Hmmm... a load of people get burned alive in Bangladesh - nobody gives a monkey's.

A fortnight later one person gets burned alive in the Levant. We get a nice long thread on the subject.

What's the difference?

how many settlers were shot, maimed, bludgeoned to within an inch of their lives in that protest?

Maybe because there is not a foreign military occupying force to riot against.

How many of those protestors were throwing firebombs at law enforcment? How many of those had to spend a night in prison just for being a peaceful bystander? You can quote me from newspapers but I have witnessed this first hand.

Entertainment before TV, Bring it back TV sucks

To quote Indira Gandhi Can you tell me how many inhabitants East Pakistan (Bangladesh) has ?

If anyone on this thread had any honour your post would have been answered seriously already instead of flippantly or idioticly (Wolli).

I suppose that doesn't include you because I haven't seen your non-flippantly/idioticly analysis yet ...

Way to change the point, yet again. Do you have an answer to Dougals breakfast's question or not?

Do you?

it's like talking to a toddler.

Yep, totally agree. A trolling toddler, at that.

Haven't you got tired, btw? Wait, you're going to throw a temper tantrum now.

Tunesian News. A father burnt his 12 year old daughter to death for Walking home with a Boy.


Pakistan. Woman burnt alive for refusing to marry a man.


Yemen. 15 year old girl burnt to death by her father, she was in contact with her boyfriend before marriage.


There's a book, haven't read it. " Burned alive." A survivor of an "honour killing" speaks.

It's obvious, but anyway... what happens in Bangladesh is for global politics about as important as the famous bag of rice falling over in China. Same is true for Nigerian schoolgirls. Nobody cares about religious motivated hate crimes in Burma either.

Tensions in the middle East from Egypt to Israel or say a conflict in Ukraine will get more coverage as it is more relevant to Europeans, end of story. I find it always funny how people try to make a point on how biased the media is with their coverage - all they care about is selling newspapers. If Bangladeshi/Pakistani/Nigerian or any other victims would sell them they'd report more about them.

This is my last message on this thread: It seems that you are ready to defend just about anything I might say against the actions of Isreali authorities - you can argue and play down the truth all day long - in reality the facts speak for themselves.

There are many documented cases of peaceful Palestinian demonstrations that were met with cruel and unprovoked murder.

For example:

February 26th, 2004:
Muhammad Fadel Hashem Rian, age 25 and Zakaria Mahmoud ‘Eid Salem, age 28
Shot dead during a demonstration against the wall in Biddu. Unprovoked

February 26th, 2004:
Abdal Rahman Abu ‘Eid, age 17
Died of a heart attack after teargas projectiles were shot into his home during a demonstration against the wall in Biddu. Unprovoked

February 26th, 2004:
Muhammad Da’ud Saleh Badwan, age 21
Shot during a demonstration against the wall in Biddu. Muhammad died of his wounds on March 3rd 2004. Unprovoked

April 16th, 2004:
Hussein Mahmoud ‘Awad ‘Alian, age 17
Shot dead during a demonstration against the wall in Betunya. Unprovoked

April 18th, 2004:
Diaa’ A-Din ‘Abd al-Karim Ibrahim Abu ‘Eid, age 23
Shot dead during a demonstration against the wall in Biddu. Unprovoked

April 18th, 2004:
Islam Hashem Rizik Zhahran, age 14
Shot during a demonstration against the wall in Deir Abu Mash’al. Islam died of his wounds April 28th. Unprovoked

Such needless deaths is a tragedy at any age, but note also how young some of those killed have been. Unprovoked

The above it a tiny sample of the countless murders that take place. Not including the random sniper shootings.

To quote Roni Barkan, a member of the Anarchists Against the Wall: the Israeli military has been using increasingly more force against the nonviolent protests. It seems that since Operation Cast Lead IDF soldiers and commanders have been conducting themselves in an even less
moral and humane manner; they are firing at anything that moves."

Given the above, why would anyone not defend themselves?

oh please.

Since this is your last message on this thread, I would like to give you something to read ….. and ponder ….

These are just some of the wonders “made in Israel” which are transforming the lives of thousands of people across the globe.Including you.

• First Care Emergency Bandage – is used to stop bleeding in trauma situations. Has saved the life of US Congresswomand Gabrille Giffors.
• Mobileye – built into every new car in the world.
• SensAheart – can be used at home and in the hospital to detect a heart attack
• Nicom – non-invasive cardiac output monitor to prevent sepsis – one of the top 10 causes of death in USA.
• Lube airway collar – cervical collar device for severe trauma to the neck.First ever non-invasive device that can open an airway.
• Agilite Instant Harness - world’s smallest Class II rappelling harness, saved the lives of South African miners trapped underground 2013.
• Injured Personnel Carrier - novel hand-free device allows one rescuer to carry an injured person.
• The Babysense breathing monitor alerts parents of respiratory cessation in babies. Has helped protect more than 600.000 babies from crib death around the world.
• Hyginex – smart bracelet to be worn by every staff member in a hospital to make sure that everyone washes their hand.
• FODetect – keeps runways around the world safe from foreign objects. Damage to aircraft caused by FOD is $4 billion each year. It also caused the Concorde to crash in 2000, killing 113 people.
• iMayDay iPhone app – sets of an alarm and emails to 5 pre-determined address to inform emergency workers about the accident.
• PerSys Medical’s Blizzard Survival – rescued a mother and son with the Llanberis Mountain Rescue team in March.
• Micromedic Technologies – diagnoses early intervention colorectal cancer, bladder cancer, lung cancer etc.
• NowForce smarphone app – uses GPS to get first-response teams quickly.
• Skysaver – to help evacuate skyscrapers in emergency situations.
• Oxitone – watch that could save your life, measures your blood oxygen levels and alerts to a potential heart attack. Expected on the market within a year.
• Autotalks – keeps drivers and passengers safer. By 2015 all car manufacturers will have it.

gives them the right to kill people ?

Absolutely not.

Heard on "CTV" news (Cdn) last night,"Five Hamas Fighter killed in Gaza"