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Old 24.07.2014, 16:36
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Old 24.07.2014, 16:42
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1- Ukrainians don't get drunk on beer, something with 98% alcohol content would be needed
98%?

Crap, the strongest I can get around here is only 95%.

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Old 24.07.2014, 16:45
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I feel left out I want a BUK too!
Wait till they bring out the lastest version the BUK - Advanced Key Engine
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Old 25.07.2014, 09:12
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Re: Malaysian Airlines MH 17 has crashed over Ukraine

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Old 25.07.2014, 09:13
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Re: Malaysian Airlines MH 17 has crashed over Ukraine

Looks like Putin's daughter was chased out of the Netherlands:

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Vladimir Putin’s daughter has apparently fled her $3.3 million penthouse near Amsterdam as fury grows over Russia’s suspected involvement in the shootdown of Flight 17.
Maria Putin, 29, has become a target of outrage in the Netherlands since 298 people, most of them Dutch, were killed in the July 17 destruction of the Malaysia Airlines jet over Ukraine.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1879616
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Old 25.07.2014, 09:26
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Looks like Putin's daughter was chased out of the Netherlands:



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1879616
What goes around comes around.

She was lucky to be living in a country where the people are quite laid back; in other countries the reactions would have been more violent and personal.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines MH 17 has crashed over Ukraine

3.3 million penthouse, communism in action
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Old 25.07.2014, 16:54
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3.3 million penthouse, communism in action
Yea, I don't know what Kim Jong Un was doing living in a flat over a Coop?


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'Much of it wasn't to my taste. Lots of chicken in strange sweet-and-sour sauces. He didn't live at the embassy but in a flat in a nice residential area near the school.'


He in fact lived in a large flat at No 10 Kirchstrasse, a sedate suburban street with two pizza cafes, a bank and a Co-Op supermarket.

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She probably likes to be on top of things.
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She probably likes to be on top of things.
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Re: Malaysian Airlines MH 17 has crashed over Ukraine

I was in Amsterdam last week and it's very sad. The whole area at Departures 3 is cordoned off and there are many, many flowers. The country is in mourning, we observed a minute's silence at 1600 on Wednesday with everyone else in the country.

The first bodies being returned to the Netherlands made for the eeriest tv programme I've even seen. No commentary, total respect.....and very sad.

And this morning as I was boarding a flight for home, I was passed by an Asian family in tears.

Very sad, needless and completely avoidable (if man was not hell-bent on killing his fellow man that is)
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Old 02.08.2014, 22:18
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Re: Malaysian Airlines MH 17 has crashed over Ukraine

Latest from the US.
"The Federal Aviation Administration told US carriers on Thursday night to fly above 30,000ft in Iraq, having previously instructed them to keep above 20,000ft."

Sounds to me like a typical bureaucratic compromise? If somebody has a missile that will reach 20,000ft then it can also reach 30,000ft?
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Re: Malaysian Airlines MH 17 has crashed over Ukraine

Most reach 75k anyway and standard cuise is 35-37k feet so its a useless directive
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Old 07.08.2014, 20:42
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MH 17 new version

US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft

KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.

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http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925?m=1
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Re: Malaysian Airlines MH 17 has crashed over Ukraine

A bit of a stretch, but probably as realistic as some of Moscow's far-flung ideas. Great for the conspiracy theory types...

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Aeroflot plane instead of MH17?

The head of Ukraine’s Security Service says pro-Moscow rebels had planned to shoot down a Russian Aeroflot passenger plane the day of the downing of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 to create a pretext for a Russian invasion of eastern Ukraine.

The separatists’ intention was to down Aeroflot flight AFL-2074 which was en route from Moscow to Larnaca, Cyprus, at approximately the same time and in the same air space as flight MH17, which passed over eastern Ukraine June 17, Interfax-Ukraine quoted Valentyn Nalyvaichenko as saying.

Nalyvaichenko said his agency reached the conclusion during the course of its own investigation into the downing of MH17.

He said that the Russian-provided Buk anti-air missile battery which was used to down MH17 had been transferred to Ukraine for that purpose, and that the Aeroflot plane with Russian passengers on board was supposed to have been shot down over territory controlled by Ukrainian government troops.

“This terrorist act, cynically, was planned as a pretext for the launch of an all-out aggression [into Ukraine] in response to the mass killing of innocent Russians,” Nalyvaichenko said.

There has been no immediate reaction from Moscow to the claim.
http://www.voanews.com/content/nato-...t/2405913.html
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Old 07.08.2014, 21:29
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Re: MH 17 new version

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US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft

KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.

more here

http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925?m=1
Not only that, a German pilot has given his own air-to-air analysis after having examined visual evidence here.

And here's recent analysis by Robert Perry.

(But seasoned readers of this thread shouldn't expect an [otherwise logical] abatement of anti-Russian propaganda here. )
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A bit of a stretch, but probably as realistic as some of Moscow's far-flung ideas. Great for the conspiracy theory types...
In case you didn't realize, the 'conspiracy theory' is published in the oldest Malaysian English language newspaper.

more here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Straits_Times

But when you are confronted with evidence, I would not have expected anything else from you but invoking a 'conspiracy theory'.
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In case you didn't realize, the 'conspiracy theory' is published in the oldest Malaysian English language newspaper.

more here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Straits_Times

But when you are confronted with evidence, I would not have expected anything else from you but invoking a 'conspiracy theory'.
I thought you would put a link to the article in the paper, not a wikipedia page explaining what the paper is...
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Old 07.08.2014, 22:08
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In case you didn't realize, the 'conspiracy theory' is published in the oldest Malaysian English language newspaper.

more here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Straits_Times

But when you are confronted with evidence, I would not have expected anything else from you but invoking a 'conspiracy theory'.
And from the wikipedia article you quoted "The gaffe sparked media outrage in both Malaysia and Australia, and has greatly reinforced public perception that the New Straits Times and most mainstream media merely serve as propaganda mouthpieces for the ruling Barisan Nasional. "

This was after the highly reputable New Straits Times printed a speech supposedly by Senator Nick Xenophon, an independent member of the Australian Parliament, in 2012.
Turns out the speech was actually from 2009 and (according to the wikipedia article) was originally an attack on Scientology but the highly reputable New Straits Times changed some of the words to turn it into an attack on Islam
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I thought you would put a link to the article in the paper, not a wikipedia page explaining what the paper is...
I did. In my previous post. Read before making a comment. Will look smarter.
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