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Also, it would be interesting to confirm that her grandfather was a regular guest for lunch with US President Harry Truman, as mentioned in the SonntagsZeitung article. From what I can determine, her grandfather Fox owned a building supplies company in Washington DC.
US Ambassador LeVine's grandfather may have been a regular guest for lunch with President Harry S. Truman but, if that is the case, I couldn't find any record that they were ever together from a search of the on-line records at the Truman Library (trumanlibrary.org). Specifically, I searched the following for any record of Ambassador LeVine's grandfather, Philip/ Phillip Fox:
1) Names in 40,944 Photos: none
2) "The President's Day": none
3) Public Papers: none
4) Truman Diaries: none

Of course, just because I couldn't find a record of Grandpa Fox's regular lunches with President Truman in the Truman Library's on-line records doesn't mean these lunches didn't happen. However, after seeing that Grandpa Fox was more a bystander and not a founder of the American Legion, I'm starting to wonder whether the new US Ambassador tells tall tales.
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Re: Interview with new US Ambassador

Maybe our Female Jewish Ambassadors should be reserved for intolerant Muslim countries. Perhaps a Japanese-American for China. For Switzerland, an African-American or Yugoslavian-American might be apropos. Just to push the envelop a bit, you know?
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That is good news, but Migros never asked her if she has been able to open a bank account.
Very funny. But the US Embassy and the US Mission in Geneva arrange for banking facilities for their Foreign Service Officers and other American employees. How otherwise could the open a rental deposit account and rent a place to live? In the case of the Mission (which has several resident US ambassadors) there is, or at least was, a branch of UBS operating in the Mission for Mission employees. The Post Report (even as of 2003) doesn't mention that bank, but it was there in 1993. http://www.ediplomat.com/np/post_reports/pr_ch.htm
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You were right about this article, but I read it anyway. A comment that is puzzling concerns her maternal grandfather founding the American Legion. The four founding fathers of the American Legion are considered to be:
Col. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr.
Lt. Col George S. White
Maj. Eric Fisher Wood
Lt. Col. William J. Donovan

Her maternal grandfather, according to a written document presented to the US Congress, was a Phillip Fox. I reviewed two American Legion magazines from 1919 and from 1920, which had stories on the American Legion's founding, and did not see the name Phillip Fox. (Other names are mentioned in addition to the above four "founding fathers").

Although it cannot be ruled out that the US ambassador's maternal grandfather founded the American Legion, I can find no evidence of it. Also, considering that he was only about 21 when World War I ended, it seems unlikely that he played a major role in founding the American Legion.

Also, it would be interested to confirm that her grandfather was a regular guest for lunch with US President Harry Truman, as mentioned in the SonntagsZeitung article. From what I can determine, her grandfather Fox owned a building supplies company in Washington DC.
It is not obvious what the point is to hold the Ambassador to exact details as published in a newspaper that may not reflect all of what she said. You could always ask the Press Office of the Embassy to clarify. I don't think we are at a "The Man Who Knew Coolidge" (novel by Sinclair Lewis) moment.

Meanwhile there is a good deal of data online on Ambassador LeVine's ancestry. Here, just from the 1940 Census:

Tillye R. Davidson and her immediate family:
http://www.archives.com/1940-census/...on-md-93188731

Phyllis J. Fox and her immediate family:
http://www.archives.com/1940-census/...ox-dc-47256844
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That is good news, but Migros never asked her if she has been able to open a bank account.
Did they ask her if she has a Cumulus Karte?
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it's the pool of people considered for diplomacy, however those criteria are determined.
Making a large financial contribution to whichever party is in power is the main criteria for many US ambassador posts.

Walter Annenberg (also Jewish) was appointed as ambassador to the UK after he offered to pay for renovations to the embassy building
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Maybe our Female Jewish Ambassadors should be reserved for intolerant Muslim countries. Perhaps a Japanese-American for China. For Switzerland, an African-American or Yugoslavian-American might be apropos. Just to push the envelop a bit, you know?
From a NY Times obituary last week:
"Terence A. Todman, who as United States ambassador to six nations and the first black person to head a geographic division of the State Department was known for candor, adroit negotiating and relentless efforts to bring more minorities to the Foreign Service, died on Aug. 13 on St. Thomas in the United States Virgin Islands. He was 88.
The State Department announced the death.
In 1990, Mr. Todman was awarded the title “career ambassador,” the State Department’s equivalent of a four-star general in the Army. For years he was the highest-ranking African-American in the Foreign Service. Jet magazine called him “the Jackie Robinson of diplomacy.”
He was ambassador to Chad, Guinea, Costa Rica, Spain, Denmark and Argentina, and assistant secretary of state in the Carter administration"

Todman was, of course, a career diplomat.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/21/wo...ead-at-88.html

Also, enjoyed his last name. Nomen est omen, although it took 88 years.
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It is not obvious what the point is to hold the Ambassador to exact details as published in a newspaper that may not reflect all of what she said. You could always ask the Press Office of the Embassy to clarify.
Ambassador LeVine made a similar claim in her written statement to the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee: "my grandfather, a WWI veteran and co-founder of the American Legion".

http://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/me...n%20LeVine.pdf

Her grandfather, Sergeant Fox, appears to have been an "extra" in the crowd when the American Legion was established.
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Re: Interview with new US Ambassador

I just want to know if she's is on here!

Will be going back to see if there were any relevant intros or requests for help "moving from Washington DC to Zurich soon" (salary/cost of living in Zurich threads) around the time of her being appointed the position.

(And besides speeding up entry for the Swiss into the US won't help me...)
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So basically if a person is appointed to public office, this gives other people the right to make remarks regarding gender, belief and heritage?

And these remarks are relevant because?
Why should she have to prove anything regarding her private life?

She's there to do a job.

The comments in this thread are so out of line.
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So basically if a person is appointed to public office, this gives other people the right to make remarks regarding gender, belief and heritage?

And these remarks are relevant because?
Why should she have to prove anything regarding her private life?

She's there to do a job.

The comments in this thread are so out of line.

Yeah, that's how Nazi Germany became large. Do not ask, just do your job.

That's exactely the mentality liked by any kind of Fascist rulers. Great, go on!
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Maybe our Female Jewish Ambassadors should be reserved for intolerant Muslim countries. Perhaps a Japanese-American for China. For Switzerland, an African-American or Yugoslavian-American might be apropos. Just to push the envelop a bit, you know?
Below is a list of the last 12 US Ambassadors (1981 to 2014) showing their religion. All were political appointees:

Nr. Ambassador Religion
1) Lodge ......... Episcopal
2) Whittlesey ... Methodist
3) Winn ........... Judaism
4) Gildenhorn ... Judaism
5) Lawrence ..... Judaism
6) Kunin .......... Judaism
7) Fredericks .... Catholic
8) Reynolds ...... undetermined
9) Willeford ...... undetermined
10) Coneway .... Baptist
11) Beyer ........ Episcopal
12) LeVine ...... Judaism

Someone must have knocked the affirmative action envelope off the table by appointing a Catholic in 1999. Catholics comprise 25% of the US population. "With 78.2 million members, it is the largest church in the United States, comprising 25 percent of the population." (Wiki)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._Liechtenstein
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Sublime, what on earth are you talking about?

I am saying here that I believe that it is not correct to make comments about a person's religion or heritage. I also believe that none of the personal aspects that define an individual such as color, gender, creed are relevant regarding his or her capacity to do a good job.

This kind of protrusive sensationalism hinders progress, gender equality, and equal opportunities for all regardless of who you are, where you come from, the status of your ancestors and the name you give your God.

The comments in this thread are out of line.
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Below is a list of the last 12 US Ambassadors (1981 to 2014) showing their religion. All were political appointees:
All Ambassadors are politically appointed.

What is the relevance of religion, race, gender, etc. to being appointed as Ambassador? In normal everyday life in America, we don't ask nor judge based on these attributes. Such decisions are based on a person's capabilities.
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Sublime, what on earth are you talking about?

I am saying here that I believe that it is not correct to make comments about a person's religion or heritage. I also believe that none of the personal aspects that define an individual such as color, gender, creed are relevant regarding his or her capacity to do a good job.

This kind of protrusive sensationalism hinders progress, gender equality, and equal opportunities for all regardless of who you are, where you come from, the status of your ancestors and the name you give your God.

The comments in this thread are out of line.
I am talking about ignorance, selfish blindness, cowderdly looking just for your own. That's what I am talking about.

Thanks for your red flag. I did indeed read the whole thread, as you would have easily recognized, given you would have read the whole thread!
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Do you really believe your own words? Or what of kind of social environment are you part of, I may ask consequently ...

Probably she made the wrong, but widespread assumptions among the many Ugly US-Americans that in such a rich country as Switzerland showing off your wealth and ability to live a luxury life would be somehow appreciated. Well, she couldn't think more erronously. Just her second profound Fettnapf (to drop a clanger) just at the start of her "job", after her more than stupid chatting-up by greeting her (none-theless US-american) employees with a somewhat Swiss German "Gruuzi mitenand". I wonder how many Swiss works among her employees and US-american soldiers. Besides, it was not even expressed in a Bernese idiom. Comparable to when a Swiss ambassodor would greet his work force with a deep Texan slang in Washington.

Well the ignorant arrogance by (Ugly) US-Americans is proverbially well-known among Europeans.

By the way, her predecessor made another point:

"Switzerland was the single largest source of foreign investment into the United States in 2010, and Switzerland is also an important destination for U.S. investment – there is more U.S. capital invested in Switzerland than in China, India, Brazil and Russia combined. Switzerland also plays host to the international or European headquarters of more than 80 major U.S. multinational companies." http://bern.usembassy.gov/trade.html

But I can't help myself, I just can get rid off the idea that her hair style very strongly reminds me about the many, many characters played in countless Hollywood movies about Nazi-Germany where they play a (nonetheless male!) SS officier!

Besides the statement of the constantly smiling Donald Beyer above (Switerland invested 177 Billion CHF in USA in 2010), let me give you just a few small numbers:

- Switzerland was the United States' 14th largest goods export market in 2013.

These are more than 50% by EU's largest importer from US in 2013: Germany with $47.4 billion

- Switzerland was the United States' 15th largest supplier of goods imports in 2013.

- Switzerland FDI in the United States (stock) was $204 million in 2012 (latest data available), up 0.9% from 2011.

- Sales of services in Switzerland by majority U.S.-owned affiliates were $70.4 billion in 2011 (latest data available), while sales of services in the United States by majority Switzerland-owned firms were $55.5 billion.
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she's an ambassador, for crying out loud. it isn't a "job", it is little more than a political reward for something she has already done. the only time being an "ambassador" is a "job" is when the title is a euphemism for "spy", would you rather have one of those?
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Ace1, thanks for your two (! ) arbritary red flags as well.

Why should I answer a question if you have nothing to say?! Are you one of those who writes death threads if somebody has a different ("political") meaning than you?

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My defense of equality is not ignorance.
I find the comments in this thread disturbing. It means that stereotypes are still alive and that we still have miles to go before men will consider other men as equals regardless of their differences.

As for the red reputation points, you are welcome.
There's no valid reason to offend people for fun.

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..really..

Sky, I critized her obviously lack of knowledge about the local manners and values, her pretended chatting-off, her look (imagine, I even do not like her awkward style), but nothing about her religion (she might have whatver she prefers), or heritage.

And no, it is not just a normal job. It is a representative job, a diplomatic job, so if one thing is important for an ambassador, it is his/her ability to establish trust and reliability with her host country. And her start really showed the opposite.

So I am sorry I made some fun about it. I am just so used to this ambivalence by US-Americans.

But this somehow again reminds me about the inability of some Muslims to accept satiric pictures of their major religous character. – But well, US-Americans, especially the ones representing their administration and the industrial-militarian complex know very well to play with two different measure of values–one for the so called enemies (everybody else than themselves!), being claimed exclusively high ethics, and one totally different, which comes into play, when they have to hide their own criminality. This, I simply call hypocritical.

So in other words: I do not percieve US-Americans (at least their administration representatives–but this is not a definite list) that much different from extremist Islamic fundamentalists.

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she's an ambassador, for crying out loud. it isn't a "job", it is little more than a political reward for something she has already done. the only time being an "ambassador" is a "job" is when the title is a euphemism for "spy", would you rather have one of those?
At least you understood the term euphemism. That's more than I could have expected.
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Sky, I critized her obviously lack of knwledge about the local manners and values, her pretended chatting-off, her look (imagine, I even do not her awkward style), but nothing about her religion (she might have whatver she prefers), or heritage.

And no, it is not just a normal job. It is a representative job, a diplomatic job, so if one thing is important for an ambassador, it is his/her ability to establish trust and reliability with her host country. And her start really showed the opposite.

So I am sorry I made some fun about it. I am just used to this ambivalence by US-Americans.

But this somehow again reminds me about the inability of some Muslims to accept satiric pictures of their major religous character. – But well, US-Americans, especially the ones representing their administration and the industrial-militarian complex know very well to play with two different measure of values–one for the so called enemies (everybody else than themselves!), being claimed exclusively high ethics, and one totally different, which comes into play, when they have to hide their own criminality. This, I simply call hypocritical.

So in other words: I do not percieve US-Americans (at least their administration representatives–but this is not a definite list) that much different from extremist Islamic fundamentalists.
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