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YES........ go for it 31 50.00%
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English universities which charge tuition fees voted for by Scottish MPs?
Maybe it was their way to tell England that the current setup is absurd?
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Maybe it was their way to tell England that the current setup is absurd?
England could have told you that years ago. Google "West Lothian Question" for further details.


Still, there's an enormous difference between fixing a squeaky wheel and pulling it off and throwing it in the cut.
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Still, there's an enormous difference between fixing a squeaky wheel and pulling it off and throwing it in the cut.
Unless the squeaky wheel is Scotland. A stop to the whinging and blame from north of the border. Hmm, then again....
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Old 16.09.2014, 12:51
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Re: Voting for Scottish Independence?

this them and us attitude is absurd, scotland isn't a separate country, there is nothing splitting it from england except some imaginary line.

for hundreds of years scotland has done very nicely thank you out of being part of the union, personally I'm sick of hearing people whinge on about what a bad deal they get, how westminster screw them over FFS the last 2 prime minsters where scottish, the last 2 chancellors of the exchequer where scottish how many current mp's have a scottish heritage yet all the woes (in your head) are the fault of the english, if anything the english should be having a vote to kick all the scots out of westminster, yes for the blink of an eye you've had oil, that WILL run out (lets just conveniently forget the effort of the whole country to actually find it and extract it) , you get more per head spent on health and education then the english, you get free prescriptions, free uni etc etc yet you still moan

I'm kinda hoping they do vote yes, then we can stop hearing about it, we'll just get years of moaning if they vote no, somehow that'll be the fault of england


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Old 16.09.2014, 13:08
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Re: Voting for Scottish Independence?

saw this probably a good idea to adopt US dollar and drop pound and not consider EUR If there is a Yes vote.

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Different currency - Could it be the the Euro or even the dollar? The Euro might not be all that popular these days, but once-upon-a-time Alex Salmond was keen for Scotland to join the Euro, describing Sterling as a "millstone around Scotland's neck". Although the Euro has weakened dramatically in recent years, it's unlikely to stay that way forever. Others suggest Scotland should use the dollar, and become a petro-economy. That's because a big chunk of Scotland's economy depends on oil and gas - an industry which operates in US dollars - and that it might not be the wildest idea in the world to adopt the dollar as its currency.
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Old 16.09.2014, 13:23
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England could have told you that years ago. Google "West Lothian Question" for further details.
I don't need to Google it, I know exactly to what you're referring.
Yet nothing is done to fix this.

The UK is really admirable for how well it has managed to do through history using tradition and fair-play. At the rest of the world there's a constitution and laws specifying what exactly each level of governent does.
In the UK, if my understanding is correct, the most prominent idea about fixing this issue is by expecting non-English MPs to not vote for issues that only affect England.
It could work, really.
But it is absurd.
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Old 16.09.2014, 13:46
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saw this probably a good idea to adopt US dollar and drop pound and not consider EUR If there is a Yes vote.

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Different currency - Could it be the the Euro or even the dollar? The Euro might not be all that popular these days, but once-upon-a-time Alex Salmond was keen for Scotland to join the Euro, describing Sterling as a "millstone around Scotland's neck". Although the Euro has weakened dramatically in recent years, it's unlikely to stay that way forever. Others suggest Scotland should use the dollar, and become a petro-economy. That's because a big chunk of Scotland's economy depends on oil and gas - an industry which operates in US dollars - and that it might not be the wildest idea in the world to adopt the dollar as its currency.
Scotland should adopt either the Norway Krone or the Swiss Franc
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Re: Voting for Scottish Independence?

It's up to the Scots to decide whether they want to be part of the Union or not, but I did think of a good reason for them to vote "no." I'm an American, but I can't help but notice that no matter what party is in Downing Street, the UK's foreign policy always dovetails with the US's. Maybe Israel might be the US's closest ally, but unless somebody finds a Nazi hiding in a foreign country (and that generation is nearly gone) they usually don't send troops overseas. Britain does, and it seems that whenever the US Marines are landing somewhere, the Grenadiers aren't far behind. (I almost half-expect that if the Falklands crisis were to happen today, the US Marines would also be landing at Stanley.) I don't know if that is necessarily a good thing. It's one thing to take advantage of our language being both mutually common and the world's lingua franca to promote British books, TVs, and movies, but this is something else.

In other words, the Scots may say that if England is determined to be America's 51st state, they shouldn't have to be the 52nd.
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It's up to the Scots to decide whether they want to be part of the Union or not, but I did think of a good reason for them to vote "no." I'm an American, but I can't help but notice that no matter what party is in Downing Street, the UK's foreign policy always dovetails with the US's.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...ames-c-bennett
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Re: Voting for Scottish Independence?

The only Scot that I know said that even asking this question is a silly thing. Scotland hasn't been independent for like what, 1000 years?
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Old 16.09.2014, 15:22
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The only Scot that I know said that even asking this question is a silly thing. Scotland hasn't been independent for like what, 1000 years?
1000 years eh? He sounds very clued in, the NO side is lucky to have him.
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1000 years eh? He sounds very clued in, the NO side is lucky to have him.
It probably was a figure of speech. Anyway, what would be the main reason for independence, in your view? Or reasons, arguments.
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It probably was a figure of speech. Anyway, what would be the main reason for independence, in your view? Or reasons, arguments.

With the above poll being closed (if it went official), we won't have the slightest idea who won and who lost
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With the above poll being closed (if it went official), we won't have the slightest idea who won and who lost
I think one of the moderators reserved his right to vote just before he closed the poll. Or did it just in time.
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Anyway, what would be the main reason for independence, in your view? Or reasons, arguments.
No offence, but there are 23 pages before this one pretty much detailing it.

Since you seem nice, I will give a very brief summary:

1. Self-determination.
2. I like Hadrian's Wall and wish to see it restored to its former glory.
3. The naughty English don't deserve any of our fine deep-fried cuisine.
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I think one of the moderators reserved his right to vote just before he closed the poll. Or did it just in time.
It's gonna be a draw - that's what sums this vote up
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No offence, but there are 23 pages before this one pretty much detailing it.

Since you seem nice, I will give a very brief summary:

1. Self-determination.
2. I like Hadrian's Wall and wish to see it restored to its former glory.
3. The naughty English don't deserve any of our fine deep-fried cuisine.
You do know that Hadrians Wall is entirely in England, right? If we made that the new border, Scotland would get Newcastle. Frankly, I don't think even the racist bullying cybernats deserve that...


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You do know that Hadrians Wall is entirely in England, right? If we made that the new border, Scotland would get Newcastle.
But at least they'll keep their cool flag.

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Re: Voting for Scottish Independence?

So here is a thought, the Northern Ireland agreement includes the right for a referendum on the Union and I wonder if the UK politicians will go all out in the same way when that comes up, which it almost certainly will at some point the future....
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