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Old 02.07.2015, 10:22
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Are Israelis not worried?
Having genocidal, well equipped terrorists on your border is worrying.
ISIS groups have an odd relationship with Hamas: enemies in Gaza, allies and weapons suppliers in Sinai.
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Old 02.07.2015, 14:34
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They killed a couple of dozen Egyptian soldiers, and lost over a hundred of theirs. I can't see how much trouble they could create for Israel apart from the nuissance. Its just PsyOps that they are throwing their own bodies into it.

Good opportunity for Israel to extend greater cooperation with its neighbors. Israel should level-set with Egypt and Jordan.
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Old 02.07.2015, 15:45
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They killed a couple of dozen Egyptian soldiers, and lost over a hundred of theirs. I can't see how much trouble they could create for Israel apart from the nuissance. Its just PsyOps that they are throwing their own bodies into it.

Good opportunity for Israel to extend greater cooperation with its neighbors. Israel should level-set with Egypt and Jordan.
PsyOps don't kill people, ISIS can cause all kinds of trouble for Israel (see the very long threads about clashes with other Islamists in Gaza & Lebanon).

At the moment Israel is cooperating closely with Egypt and Jordan. Jordan gets a lot of it's water from Israel, and will get Israeli gas, instead of Egyptian, soon.
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Old 02.07.2015, 16:03
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PsyOps don't kill people, ...
It certainly can, and for ISIS, psychology is its main strategic objective. The more that game is named and learned, the sooner you will start seeing them defeated. Describing this event as some sort of ISIS success plays into their hands, and they would have succeeded. Learning how to respond to it is more than half the battle. You do this by looking for opportunities to leverage their actions against them.
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Old 02.07.2015, 16:14
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Re: Islamic State

I just saw BBC's series on IS and historical artefacts and sites distruction (Civilisation under attack, Dan Cruickshank, BBC 4) ...on Matthew Bogdanos's work. A really good show.
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Old 02.07.2015, 16:30
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It certainly can, and for ISIS, psychology is its main strategic objective. The more that game is named and learned, the sooner you will start seeing them defeated. Describing this event as some sort of ISIS success plays into their hands, and they would have succeeded. Learning how to respond to it is more than half the battle. You do this by looking for opportunities to leverage their actions against them.

Don't you agree that their strategic goal is the foundation of a state and they are using fear & propaganda to help them achieve it ?

What should be done to defeat ISIS ?
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Old 02.07.2015, 16:38
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I just saw BBC's series on IS and historical artefacts and sites distruction (Civilisation under attack, Dan Cruickshank, BBC 4) ...on Matthew Bogdanos's work. A really good show.
So with airstrikes, we're actually bombing them out of the stoneage .
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Old 02.07.2015, 16:41
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Don't you agree that their strategic goal is the foundation of a state and they are using fear & propaganda to help them achieve it ?

What should be done to defeat ISIS ?
By not aggrandizing them and their abilities.
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By not aggrandizing them and their abilities.

As long as our governments need Daesh, Daesh will exist.


It won't be long before we have to register our holiday destination with the local police, just in case we were thinking of going off to Syria for jihad and biscuits.
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Old 02.07.2015, 17:20
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So we should relegate ISIS related news to the backpages, then what - Invite their Khalif to the Queen for Tea ? (after all, most other Arab dictators had the pleasure).
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Old 02.07.2015, 17:26
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Evil feeds off of fear, so do 't feed it.

I think that is from Freddy Krueger, Nightmare on Elm Street.
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Old 02.07.2015, 17:31
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So we should relegate ISIS related news to the backpages, then what - Invite their Khalif to the Queen for Tea ? (after all, most other Arab dictators had the pleasure).
That's where most genocidal maniacs end up: unreported or ignored in "Other News" on page 32.

But Daesh are more useful than most genocidal maniacs. They can be used to justify all kinds of illiberal nonsense in the name of "security".
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So we should relegate ISIS related news to the backpages, then what - Invite their Khalif to the Queen for Tea ? (after all, most other Arab dictators had the pleasure).
I don't know what you're talking about.







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Old 02.07.2015, 17:56
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Are you sure that is the Queen with Gadaffi?
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Old 02.07.2015, 18:14
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Are you sure that is the Queen with Gadaffi?
or a guy who thinks he's the Queen.
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Old 03.07.2015, 13:45
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Re: Islamic State

Minute's silence across the UK for the 38 victims (30 of whom were Brits)



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Re: Islamic State

The queen has had some great friends over the years
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Old 04.07.2015, 11:09
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Are Israelis not worried?
That did take long.
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Old 04.07.2015, 20:24
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Re: Islamic State

In 2013, 91% of the 17958 fatalities were killed in just ten countries.

The top five registered 82% of the total: Iraq (35.4%), Afghanistan(17.3%), Pakistan(13.1%), Nigeria(10.2%) and Syria(6%).
The next-placed five countries (Somalia, India, Philippines, Yemen, Thailand) registered 8.8%.

Thailand, the holiday country, counted 252 fatalities. Does/did anybody consider avoiding holidays in Thailand, or even cancelling what had already been booked?

It seems to me it's not so much about the number of victims, but much more about who gets killed, where they come from.

Data from http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/
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Re: Islamic State

BRITAIN is to send 50 special forces trainers to help the Tunisian Government “seek and destroy” the Islamic State terrorists behind the Sousse massacre.
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