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David Haines fom Perth in Scotland, had worked for a French aid group ACTED for 4 years. He was in the Balkans, Africa, and Middle East before he was captured in Syria in March 2013. Yesterday he was beheaded by IS. Another decent guy, murdered by these evil people. RIP David!

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.615628

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David Haines fom Perth in Scotland, had worked for a French aid group ACTED for 4 years. He was in the Balkans, Africa, and Middle East before he was captured in Syria in March 2013. Yesterday he was beheaded by IS. Another decent guy, murdered by these evil people. RIP David!

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.615628

RIP.... David Haynes.

And, apparently, the next to be butchered has been identified.

Got me totally convinced of the righteousness of their cause.
Not.

And what do we hear from the wider Muslim community?
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RIP.... David Haynes.

And, apparently, the next to be butchered has been identified.

Got me totally convinced of the righteousness of their cause.
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And what do we hear from the wider Muslim community?
That they completely disown this message and it stands completely against their belifef's ? http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-david-cameron
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And what do we hear from the wider Muslim community?
All those dusty boots on the ground fighting these bastards in Iraq and Syria? Muslims!

Care to turn your computer off and go to join them?

No... thought not.
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RIP.... David Haynes.


And what do we hear from the wider Muslim community?
10 Arabic countries are joining forces to the NATO to fight Isis.

Everywhere Muslim voices are denouncing the atrocities committed by these barbarians.

Read a bit more, you'll see it.
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Re: Islamic State executes Scottish aid worker David Haines,

Maybe, and I hope very soon, the Muslim community will wake up to the evil in their midst.

During the "troubles", in Ireland a small community supported the IRA who were able to terrorize the population. Eventually these people saw the evil in their communities, and voted for a decent result.

Muslim communities must report these unfortunates who are swayed by some evil preachings. Islam, like Christianity, is basically a peaceful religion and it must be brave and respond to the threats in their communities!
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Maybe, and I hope very soon, the Muslim community will wake up to the evil in their midst.

During the "troubles", in Ireland a small community supported the IRA who were able to terrorize the population. Eventually these people saw the evil in their communities, and voted for a decent result.

Muslim communities must report these unfortunates who are swayed by some evil preachings. Islam, like Christianity, is basically a peaceful religion and it must be brave and respond to the threats in their communities!
Again, this is what the Kurd, the Sunni and Shiite population of Irak are doing by joining the army, by defending their villages, cities and country.

Their are ready to die to defend the country, what more can be done?

What about Ukraine? People are dying there too. Should the Christian community do something? Should all Ukrainian in the world do something? What about all the Europeans? They should do something to protect and support Ukraine in the wish of the majority who wants to join EU!

Women of this world are being killed, raped and put into slavery. What are the men of this world doing to protect them? To stop it?

Why the Muslim community has more obligations than any other groups and communities?

Forget about Muslims, what people of this world are doing to help people of Irak and any other countries of this world to live in peace and freely?

It is easy to wash off our hands by accusing one group to not do enough. But we are all one and a single group: human. What do you do for your fellow human?
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Again, this is what the Kurd, the Sunni and Shiite population of Irak are doing by joining the army, by defending their villages, cities and country.

Their are ready to die to defend the country, what more can be done?

What about Ukraine? People are dying there too. Should the Christian community do something? Should all Ukrainian in the world do something? What about all the Europeans? They should do something to protect and support Ukraine in the wish of the majority who wants to join EU!

Women of this world are being killed, raped and put into slavery. What are the men of this world doing to protect them? To stop it?

Why the Muslim community has more obligations than any other groups and communities?

Forget about Muslims, what people of this world are doing to help people of Irak and any other countries of this world to live in peace and freely?

It is easy to wash off our hands by accusing one group to not do enough. But we are all one and a single group: human. What do you do for your fellow human?
I think the difference is IS are killing in the name of Islam... They are making it about Islam.

Ukrainian fighters have not made any mention of Christianity as far as I know!
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Re: Islamic State exectes Scottish aid worker David Haines,

We've had 50 years of sectarian violence in Northern Ireland. And what do we hear from the wider Christian community?

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RIP.... David Haynes.

And, apparently, the next to be butchered has been identified.

Got me totally convinced of the righteousness of their cause.
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And what do we hear from the wider Muslim community?
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I think the difference is IS are killing in the name of Islam... They are making it about Islam.

Ukrainian fighters have not made any mention of Christianity as far as I know!
Indeed.

Considering the majority of the people dying in the hands of IS are Muslims, we can probably come to an easy conclusion by saying that this is not the true Islam they are spreading around.

So my post above still stand. Knowing there are a bunch of nut cases using a "cause" based on something that doesn't exist (aka the Islam they pretend to be the pure one) what more Muslims around the world do? Everyone is already saying and protesting that this is NOT Islam. People are dying to protect others from this nonsense.

What more? What more has to be done? Arabic countries are supporting the coalition, people are dying fighting these fanatics.

What more?
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What about Ukraine? People are dying there too. Should the Christian community do something? Should all Ukrainian in the world do something? What about all the Europeans? They should do something to protect and support Ukraine in the wish of the majority who wants to join EU!
Everyone will be busy with Syria/Iraq from now on so bye bye Ukraine, bye bye Moldova, not that they really counted anyway. Putin has vision. (or maybe that was the deal from the very beginning).
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Re: Islamic State executes Scottish aid worker David Haines,

asking "what are Christians doing (INSERT DISPUTE HERE)?" when discussing terrorism should be officially recognized as a corollary to Godwin's Law.
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asking "what are Christians doing (INSERT DISPUTE HERE)?" when discussing terrorism should be officially recognized as a corollary to Godwin's Law.
This is completely unfair to the person who said that because he/she was obviously replying to somebody who would like to have the Muslim community accountable for the IS.
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Re: Islamic State executes Scottish aid worker David Haines,

Why IS keeps publishing these videos of executions? Are they asking to be bombed? This makes no sense to me.
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Why IS keeps publishing these videos of executions? Are they asking to be bombed? This makes no sense to me.
That's probably part of the strategy. More American bombs killing muslims will recruit more people to their cause.
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Re: Islamic State executes Scottish aid worker David Haines,

40 countries have signed up for action against IS, including 10 Arab nations….

… World War 3?
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Why IS keeps publishing these videos of executions? Are they asking to be bombed? This makes no sense to me.
Who knows for sure but I guess they:
1. Want to recruit more sickos to their 'glamorous' death cult gang
2. Scare and intimidate opponents in case they get captured
3. They enjoy it ( not trying to be flippant btw)
4. Tell the West and their allies that they mean business

Very sad news RIP David Haines.
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Why IS keeps publishing these videos of executions? Are they asking to be bombed? This makes no sense to me.
To spread fear in our heads, to bring to them the weirdos, psychopath and lonely of this world who are looking for a cause.
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Everyone will be busy with Syria/Iraq from now on so bye bye Ukraine, bye bye Moldova, not that they really counted anyway. Putin has vision. (or maybe that was the deal from the very beginning).
No, they will not. The British and American maybe. They were involved in the last iteration of that fun ride down there and have both citizens as part of victims and the slayers alike. For the rest of Europe the priority will be the Ukraine for now.

Especially for the EU who is partially responsible for the current status and continues to act irresponsibly. At one point they will have to wake up from the coward mode. The Crimea is probably lost for good, for the East of the Ukraine the future status is unknown, but the rest of Europe will not have to worry. Putin can't possibly be that stupid.
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No, they will not. The British and American maybe. They were involved in the last iteration of that fun ride down there and have both citizens as part of victims and the slayers alike. For the rest of Europe the priority will be the Ukraine for now.

Especially for the EU who is partially responsible for the current status and continues to act irresponsibly. At one point they will have to wake up from the coward mode. The Crimea is probably lost for good, for the East of the Ukraine the future status is unknown, but the rest of Europe will not have to worry. Putin can't possibly be that stupid.
But 40 states have signed up to a coalition to deal with IS.... Not just UK and US. Australia are sending troops over!
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