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Old 14.06.2015, 17:38
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

Most NATO counties recognize Russia's aggression in E.Europe, but are reluctant to send military help, altho believe the US will step in if necessary....

http://www.pewglobal.org/2015/06/10/...-military-aid/

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...aine-conflict/
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Old 14.06.2015, 21:07
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

George Friedman of Stratfor says the US have been active in Ukraine since before the Orange Revolution. Though I disagree with many points, I think his speech before the Chicago Council should be mandatory for everbody.

21:40-25:10 is about core apects of the conflict in Ukraine, 53:50-55:30 about a core point permeating US strategy in general for the last century.
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Old 14.06.2015, 22:48
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

"The 'anti-terrorist operation' in Eastern Ukraine is coordinated by the National Security and National Defense Committee (RNBOU). (Рада національної безпеки і оборони України), which is controlled by Svoboda and Right Sector...

"...The Western media has described the Neo-Nazi Brown shirts as 'freedom fighters'...”

"...Meanwhile, new reports inform us that there is democracy in Ukraine, with the advent of a duly elected president and that Russia is the Aggressor."

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Old 15.06.2015, 00:09
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

Do you really take Michel Chossudovsky's "Global Research" website seriously? It's tin-foil hat stuff. He thinks Mossad was behind the Charlie Hebdo attacks

http://www.globalresearch.ca/state-s...ttacks/5425322
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Old 15.06.2015, 00:15
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Do you really take Michel Chossudovsky's "Global Research" website seriously? It's tin-foil hat stuff. He thinks Mossad was behind the Charlie Hebdo attacks

http://www.globalresearch.ca/state-s...ttacks/5425322
LOL, you should read what he wrote about the 2004 Tsunami
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

Seems the peace loving Vladimir announced today the installation of 40 new nuclear tipped ICBMs, looking forward to the usual trolls explaining how this is a peaceful action.
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

peace through strength!
hes just trying to balance out all of the nato actions.


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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

The positioning of weapons and troops in East Europe is within the limits of previously agreed terms with Russia. The force is small and considered to be a "tripwire", if Russia should invade a NATO country:

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he deployment of tanks and other equipment under consideration would be small. The idea is to put equipment for a potential U.S. fighting force of 150 troops in each of the three Baltic states, and up to 5,000 across the region. In its own right, this is not a meaningful defensive force, much less an offensive one -- Russia has 770,000 active-duty troops. It's a "tripwire" to ensure that any attack launched on NATO's eastern members would kill Americans, and so dictate full-scale U.S. involvement. Russia's leaders understand this perfectly, and their statements to the contrary are disingenuous.
http://www.bloombergview.com/article...-but-that-s-ok

As for Putin needing to bolster his nuclear arsenal...

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Lieutenant General Ben Hodges, commander of U.S. Army Europe, said the United States planned to keep enough vehicles in Europe to equip an armored brigade combat team. The equipment could be used both for training and in a crisis.


"The total number is about 1,200 vehicles. Of the 1,200, about 250 are tanks, Bradley infantry fighting vehicles and ... 155mm self-propelled howitzers," Hodges told Reuters in a telephone interview.


"I'm flattered that the Russians think they need 40 nuclear missiles to counter the effect of one U.S. Army armored brigade combat team," he said. "It's irresponsible for Russia to talk about nuclear weapons."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0OX2SM20150617

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Old 18.06.2015, 16:23
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

Interesting, Russia state media is suddenly talking about holding early Presidential elections, possibly this year, rather than the scheduled 2018.

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ST. PETERSBURG, June 18. /TASS/. The Kremlin is not commenting so far on a statement by ex-Finance Minister Alexey Kudrin on the possibility of moving the presidential elections scheduled for 2018 to an earlier date, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Thursday.

The ex-finance minister said at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum on Thursday that the Russian authorities should hold early presidential elections to confirm their mandate for structural reforms in the country.
http://tass.ru/en/russia/801746

Considering Putin's approval rate is over 80% right now, and may not be so high two years from now as sanctions and oil prices take further toll on the economy, I think this makes sense for Putin to retain his grip on power (altho when Ukraine held early elections, they called them an "illegitimate jaunta")

They also mentioned "structural reforms", I would assume that would mean creating more "nationalistic laws" to turn Russia into more of a North Korean style of government, eg. prison terms for insulting the Russian national anthem
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Old 19.06.2015, 14:25
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

EU-Russia relation tumble further down-hill....


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Austria has reportedly joined Belgium and France in seizing Russian property in connection with YUKOS case.

The Hague Court ordered Russia to pay USD 50 billion for seizing Yukos assets a decade ago.

The seizure was authorised by The Hague Permanent Court of Arbitration, on July 18, 2014, following a claim filed by Yukos Universal Limited.
http://uatoday.tv/politics/belgium-a...ty-441549.html

Russia said they expect to start seizing EU assets in Russia very soon, but gave no legal justification, only retaliation.

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ST.PETERSBURG, June 19. /TASS/. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Friday he expects that the country’s courts will allow the arrest of foreign property with the state participation on the Russian territory.

He noted that reciprocal actions would be a response to the seizure of Russia’s accounts. "This is inevitable, this is the way one should act on the international scene. Reciprocity can be both positive and negative. In this case it will be negative," the minister said.
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Old 20.06.2015, 04:21
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

“And there are cases which are very difficult, or failures. ...Ukraine has had in the recent past as many as three unsuccessful programs – 2008, 2010, and 2014. And it’s now executing a fourth program with the IMF.”

"IMF is developing rather slowly to a rapidly changing world. It’s a large bureaucracy, 70 years old … in Washington DC."

Nuff said.
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

Without IMF help, Ukraine would have no money to pay pensioners, doctors, police, etc and would essentially become a failed state and turn into a lawless European Somalia. Are you saying that is a better option than the IMF bailout?

BTW Russia is not only supplying the DNR with weapons, but also trucking in food/supplies, as well as truckloads of cash, which is equivalent to the IMF bailout.
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Old 20.06.2015, 22:47
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

The EU has no other choice but to persist in its futile efforts to "punish" Russia for assenting to the unequivocally expressed self-determination wishes of the Crimeans (notwithstanding the fact-free propaganda of EF's pro-post-coup-Kiev troll brigade).

Acquiescing to the timeless and noble notion of self-determination would be political suicide to the oligarchic, faux-democratic states of "The West" and their political and economic puppetmasters. Opening the door to self-determination even a tiny crack will end with the EU's dissolution (not that that's a bad thing).

Time will tell how much longer they'll manage to hold their crumbling façade together, but the contemporary "Western" norms of oligarchy and hegemony appear to be sliding ever closer to history's dustbin, as the notion of self-determination becomes more and more popular, while violent statist oppression fails to resolve anything (let alone prove the legitimacy of any state, particularly after a violent coup!).
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Old 20.06.2015, 23:37
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

LOL, how much freedom and self-determination is there inside the Russian "Federation"? It's a vertical power distribution, controlled by Moscow. The regions in Russia have no "self determination", they are subservient. Putin bombed Chechnya into the stone ages when they tried to break free.
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

Lost your job because your country's oligarchs lick the boots of Washington's hegemony??

Food is overrated — nourish your family with the endless supply of 'Western' [read 'US'] propaganda instead!!
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I think Europeans are eating very well compared to Russian standards LOL
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

Washington's EU puppet extends economic sanctions against Russia for 6 months

…and this has a reasonable expectation of achieving exactly what??

Washington's NATO puppet plans 40,000-strong rapid response force in Eastern Europe

Anything substantiating any so-called "Russian aggression" has yet to be unequivocally documented. Yet there's plenty of wholly equivocal activity swarming within the NATO exceptionalism camp, aiming to baselessly demonize Russia.

…again, having a reasonable expectation of achieving exactly what??

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Seems the peace loving Vladimir announced today the installation of 40 new nuclear tipped ICBMs, looking forward to the usual trolls explaining how this is a peaceful action.

Putinists will tell you that he does so to save THE BALANCE OF POWERS and of course to SECURE PEACE IN OUR TIME
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Re: Russia and NATO in the News

The Ukraine President in a speech here in Zürich half a year ago made it clear that Western Europe by "punishing" Russia also damaged the Ukraine and should rather HELP Russia in economic Terms.
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Putinists will tell you that he does so to save THE BALANCE OF POWERS and of course to SECURE PEACE IN OUR TIME
With nothing but endless months of saber-rattling and anti-Russian posturing from the US and NATO, what else did anybody expect??? sälber schuld!
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