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Old 22.09.2015, 09:20
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Re: Westminster Paedophile Ring

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The Independent and Guardian reporting police admitting it an error to refer to the evidence as 'credible and true'. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10511713.html
So at what point do photos of 'Nick' along with his real name get published?
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The Independent and Guardian reporting police admitting it an error to refer to the evidence as 'credible and true'. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10511713.html
Could you perhaps find the piece of news that a new team of 90 dedicated police officers will now investigate paedophiles from the establishment & a large number of police cover-ups investigated by the IPCC...(anyone)?

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Re: Westminster Paedophile Ring

Police overstepped the mark in westminster paedophile ring enquiry says the public prosecutor.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...iry-prosecutor
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Re: Westminster Paedophile Ring

Panorama to show documentary debunking claims of a Westminster Paedophile Ring:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-10514686.html
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Re: Westminster Paedophile Ring

Person kills himself after false allegation of rape: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6676611.html

Just so it's clear the kind of effect a false allegation can have on someone.
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Old 06.10.2015, 19:21
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Panorama to show documentary debunking claims of a Westminster Paedophile Ring:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-10514686.html
Yes, tonight here ... the BBC has enough scandal after the Jimmy Saville episode and so we get a later than usual slot for Panorama, bit fishy I think.

Will it get to the bottom of why this has all taken so long? Or whether that is the reason to give plenty of time to destroy evidence. Who knows. Maybe the 'witnesses' are getting paid off in the process.

To me, it all still stinks of one HUGE cover-up. TV recorders at the ready then...
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Old 06.10.2015, 19:37
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Yes, tonight here ... the BBC has enough scandal after the Jimmy Saville episode and so we get a later than usual slot for Panorama, bit fishy I think.

Will it get to the bottom of why this has all taken so long? Or whether that is the reason to give plenty of time to destroy evidence. Who knows. Maybe the 'witnesses' are getting paid off in the process.

To me, it all still stinks of one HUGE cover-up. TV recorders at the ready then...

If they ran the programme then any court case could never go ahead........
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Old 06.10.2015, 23:03
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Re: Westminster Paedophile Ring

Claims of sex abuse against Leon Brittan 'started as a joke': http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...oke-bbc-report
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Re: Westminster Paedophile Ring

Just to put things into perspective, the victims of Jimmy Saville numbered nearly 500, the youngest being 2 years old, he was never even arrested for any of these crimes and died an 'innocent' man.. ..that may put the extent to which a cover-up can be executed into perspective by the establishment.

The BBC has many questions to answer, rather than ask them.
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Old 06.10.2015, 23:26
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Claims of sex abuse against Leon Brittan 'started as a joke': http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...oke-bbc-report
Now who is making false claims, the actual article reads; The man told Panorama he may have been led into making the claims by campaigners..
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Old 07.10.2015, 00:22
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Now who is making false claims, the actual article reads; The man told Panorama he may have been led into making the claims by campaigners..
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Well once a witness is cross examined having said 'he may' the evidence will fall flat & will be ignored by the jury. They are looking for evidence that is 100% truthful, once something is clearly suspect then that it.

I was on a jury when one of the 2 policeman were clearly lying, the guy walked, had the policeman not 'polished' his evidence we would have listened to it.
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Well once a witness is cross examined having said 'he may' the evidence will fall flat & will be ignored by the jury. They are looking for evidence that is 100% truthful, once something is clearly suspect then that it.

I was on a jury when one of the 2 policeman were clearly lying, the guy walked, had the policeman not 'polished' his evidence we would have listened to it.
You mean "reasonable doubt"
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Re: Westminster Paedophile Ring

Police apologise to Leon Brittans wife for not telling him before his death over false rape claim outcome: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...dow-over-claim
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Old 08.10.2015, 01:11
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Now who is making false claims, the actual article reads; The man told Panorama he may have been led into making the claims by campaigners..
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I assume you have seen the programme, very odd you have failed to update.
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I assume you have seen the programme, very odd you have failed to update.
Actually I had to record it as it was on so late and I normally go to bed at 10pm...

Watched it last night & seeing that you seem very interested in my opinion on it I'll post soon I promise
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I assume you have seen the programme, very odd you have failed to update.
Remember FMF - if there is clear evidence then "they" did it. If there is no evidence there is a cover up and "they" did it.
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Re: Westminster Paedophile Ring

Yes I did see it, and it has not changed anythng for me except that it may now prevent more victims coming forward as there are many witnesses not just 'Nick' 'Darren', etc

There are 250 VIP's currently being investigated by the police, of course they are under a lot of pressure by the press, the alleged perpertrators, their peers, etc and they have obviously made some mistakes (which they have come clean about).

I want to say this, when the News of the World was found guilty of phone tapping it was closed down. Given that so many of its celebrities have been convicted of such serious crimes and especially Jimmy Saville, I have no idea why the BBC isn't being reprehended. Actually though I do have a good idea!

I also believe in justice. I really wouldn't want anyone being wrongly accused but then the question must e asked as to why something was not done earlier about these celebrities, especially Saville. It must have been covered up, like Cyril Smith in the political spectrum.

Do you really know what are you defending?

I will not put words into anyone's mouth but it is clear that external very influential and dangerous powers are at work to protect those who have wantonly abused their power. The British establishment, so much the pillar of world society is simply corrupt and has been for years. What is behind this establishment to protect it, I will not say but to me it is obvious. At the head of this corruption is the BBC, the public face of the UK and IMO I think it should be abolished.

If you want to support it please go ahead, it is a democratic right of yours but also be careful, the truth will come out and this thread will also remain to be read.
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Re: Westminster Paedophile Ring

This might also be of interest: http://www.exaronews.com/articles/56...wal-of-charter
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If you want to support it please go ahead, it is a democratic right of yours but also be careful, the truth will come out and this thread will also remain to be read.

You go very quiet when celebrities are found not guilty, or when the police find no evidence & close their cases.

I think the difference is I believe in due process.

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It's of great interest, thank you
"Panorama insiders say that it has spent a fortune on the programme, so has to go ahead despite having no story"
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Old 08.10.2015, 12:25
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You go very quiet when celebrities are found not guilty, or when the police find no evidence & close their cases.
What should I say? Justice has been done...
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