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Westminster Paedophile Ring

I'm a bit disappointed this still seems to be successfully kept out of the press even though one could consider a story (with enough credo) about British MP's under Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in the 80's, who abused and KILLED children from care homes.

There was an exaro report recently that reported that those in high authority were waiting for Leon Brittan (the one that allegedly hid documentation), to pop his clogs before charges were brought.

This involves: The Royal family, the BBC, a famous pop star (really famous), MI5, well known MP's in cabinet at the time and some serving now, Jill Dando's murder, etc.

Even revelations under a little investigation would be bigger news than (for example) this today...

Considering also the fact that many people were having a hard time in the early 80's getting jobs, and industry was being ransacked, destroyed and sold-off cheaply along with the decimation of the UK's car industry, some (like me for example) would love to see some punishment dished out soon for the henious crimes of those in authority who were supposed to be doing their best for us at the time instead of abusing those most vulnerable of children.
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Old 06.12.2014, 11:16
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Re: Westminster Paedophile Ring

Seems that there is even a press block going on as the normally reliable news now site hasn't been updated with this from the Daily Mail (which has really taken a lead on this subject it seems).

Scotland Yard 'hid top MP's name.......'

...or this.

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Old 18.12.2014, 22:34
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Re: Westminster Paedophile Ring

News today that abuse also took place on 'Military bases' as Evening Standard reports...

And murdered boys by VIP sex ring are 'credible and true - Police' ...so please, why can't those involved be named?
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Seems that there is even a press block going on as the normally reliable news now site hasn't been updated with this from the Daily Mail (which has really taken a lead on this subject it seems).

Scotland Yard 'hid top MP's name.......'

...or this.
The first one comes up if you search for "scotland yard hid name", so I reckon it's just how their search works, ie it comes up higher if the words are in the headline.

Edit: removed follow up sentence that didn't make sense given the timing.

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Re: Westminster Paedophile Ring

I read the article and I have the impression that they are hoping to encourage more victims to come forward, so to confirm credibility, they will not want too many details to go public. What would public airing do? Wait till it goes to court... Then the details can come out...it is extremely difficult to get convictions for these sorts of cases... They need a lot of evidence and consistent details before it can move to court...
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I read the article and I have the impression that they are hoping to encourage more victims to come forward, so to confirm credibility, they will not want too many details to go public. What would public airing do? Wait till it goes to court... Then the details can come out...it is extremely difficult to get convictions for these sorts of cases... They need a lot of evidence and consistent details before it can move to court...
I had that impression in this article too, I agree to some extent with what you are saying but many of those who were involved as third-party for example, drivers, assistants, secretaries, etc hold the key to enable Police to cross-reference victims statements. Very few of these seem to want to cooperate confirming (in my view) the extent of abuse by very well known establishment figures. I think it is just a matter of progressing into detail that more victims would come forward anyway.
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I'm a bit disappointed this still seems to be successfully kept out of the press even though one could consider a story (with enough credo) about British MP's under Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in the 80's, who abused and KILLED children from care homes.

There was an exaro report recently that reported that those in high authority were waiting for Leon Brittan (the one that allegedly hid documentation), to pop his clogs before charges were brought.

This involves: The Royal family, the BBC, a famous pop star (really famous), MI5, well known MP's in cabinet at the time and some serving now, Jill Dando's murder, etc.

Even revelations under a little investigation would be bigger news than (for example) this today...

Considering also the fact that many people were having a hard time in the early 80's getting jobs, and industry was being ransacked, destroyed and sold-off cheaply along with the decimation of the UK's car industry, some (like me for example) would love to see some punishment dished out soon for the henious crimes of those in authority who were supposed to be doing their best for us at the time instead of abusing those most vulnerable of children.
You seem to have quite a bee in your bonnet over this story.

Far from "being kept out of the press", it's been doing the rounds for many years, waiting for some hard evidence to support it. No doubt there is something at the heart of it, though the idea that 'the Establishment' is locked into some conspiracy of silence seems far-fetched.

Without evidence, it's not reasonable to drop all these names into your post and talk about Thatcher-supporting MPs abusing and killing children.
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Old 19.12.2014, 19:25
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You seem to have quite a bee in your bonnet over this story.

Far from "being kept out of the press", it's been doing the rounds for many years, waiting for some hard evidence to support it. No doubt there is something at the heart of it, though the idea that 'the Establishment' is locked into some conspiracy of silence seems far-fetched.

Without evidence, it's not reasonable to drop all these names into your post and talk about Thatcher-supporting MPs abusing and killing children.
That's really not true, we're talking about a cover-up in which evidence has been suppressed ... ...it is also a little condescending to say I have a bee in my bonnet, I would say though I do have a personal interest in seeing these creeps get what they deserve, it is just a question of the issue getting some traction by revealing a perpetrator or two. Were you a Thatcher supporter by any chance?
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That's really not true, we're talking about a cover-up in which evidence has been suppressed ... ...it is also a little condescending to say I have a bee in my bonnet, I would say though I do have a personal interest in seeing these creeps get what they deserve, it is just a question of the issue getting some traction by revealing a perpetrator or two. Were you a Thatcher supporter by any chance?
Was Margaret Thatcher an abuser? Did she personally cover something up?
If so, what has being a supporter of Thatcher got to do with it?

Cyril Smith has been mentioned in reports. He was a liberal.
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Was Margaret Thatcher an abuser? Did she personally cover something up?
If so, what has being a supporter of Thatcher got to do with it?

Cyril Smith has been mentioned in reports. He was a liberal.
She knew enough, google the title of this thread and her name and hey presto, up comes Peter Morrison, her private secretary, who was abusing young boys...

...she was Not some celebrity MP but Prime Minister... ...these facts speak for themselves, no?
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She knew enough, google the title of this thread and her name and hey presto, up comes Peter Morrison, her private secretary, who was abusing young boys...

...she was Not some celebrity MP but Prime Minister... ...these facts speak for themselves, no?
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That's really not true, we're talking about a cover-up in which evidence has been suppressed ... ...it is also a little condescending to say I have a bee in my bonnet, I would say though I do have a personal interest in seeing these creeps get what they deserve, it is just a question of the issue getting some traction by revealing a perpetrator or two. Were you a Thatcher supporter by any chance?
No, I wasn't a Thatcher supporter. Far from it. But sex scandals are not restricted to one party and one generation, and it's wrong to be selective.

It seems pretty certain that there are scandals waiting to be exposed, but let's deal with facts rather than speculation. There is a new official investigation underway now and another appeal has been made for people to come forward with information, so there seems to be no cover-up or suppression going on now, even if that happened in the past.

It's frustrating that allegations tend to be made about people only after they have died. It means 'justice denied' to victims, and offenders going unpunished -- as well as the danger of some people being wrongly accused without being able to respond.
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No.
No, really?

Boys as young as SEVEN years old... really!

You'll only have to wait until january when the (horrific) truth will come out anyway so I'll try to keep quiet until then.
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No, really?

Boys as young as SEVEN years old... really!

You'll only have to wait until january when the (horrific) truth will come out anyway so I'll try to keep quiet until then.
It's all allegedly, nothing is proven. So saying Margaret thatcher knew and was complicit is about as valid as me pointing out you knew and were complicit in it.

Perhaps wait for some facts on it.
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Don't forget these two were close friends.....


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Thatcher and Savile were obviously never 'close friends' but they did find each other useful to know. Savile was far too weird to have any close friends, but he did flatter people who he thought could help him. As for Thatcher, she made the same error as many others ó mistaking his prodigious charity fundraising and high public profile for mass popularity. The photo ops and her desire for him to get a knighthood seems to have been based on the assumption that it would reflect well on her, but it didnít (and she was well past her own popularity peak then in any case).

Something that has emerged since the Savile scandal surfaced was that few people actually liked the bloke, but we seemed to presume that many other people did.
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Re: Westminster Paedophile Ring

I just think that even if some of the allegations are true it is hard to accept that she knew nothing, there are allegedly 22 MP's who are involved immediately in this from then and part of FIVE paedophile rings operating (at the time) around westminster.

What's interesting is that foreign news portals are reporting daily on this now so there is no going back. Here's a piece in the Mirrror about Dolphin square...
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Let it rain whistleblowers...
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News today that abuse also took place on 'Military bases' as Evening Standard reports...

And murdered boys by VIP sex ring are 'credible and true - Police' ...so please, why can't those involved be named?
Innocent until proven guilty?
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Innocent until proven guilty?
Saville was innocent and never proven guilty until after he died, that's ok with you?

And why some MP's might die before being brought to trial too? Possibly one or two of these....

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