The purpose of satire is humour. It is not made with the intention to provoke. It uses irony and exaggeration to expose stupidity or vices. Which is .. well humorous. Let's remember that every other religion prophets are made fun of. No prophet should be considered sacred!

But the Paris killers killed "true" Muslims?

Interesting. The original gunmen were masked.

If you're willing to die in a hail of gunfire to try to "discredit" the police* would it be worth laying a false trail and have the watertight alibi released after your death?


*Especially if they can coax the police into shooting them without threatening anybody themselves - they don't have hostages in the printshop, do they?

Apparently there is one hostage in the printshop.

There is now another situation in a kosher supermarket in Paris.
An armed gunman has taken hostages, including women and children, reports of two dead.

They allegedly have one hostage at the moment.

Several hostages in the supposedly linked attack at the grocery.

The have one hostage apparently in the print shop.

If the brothers had not left the ID card in the car.. Would they be clean away??

sorry, but this is just plain and simply wrong. it is certainly a bonus when satire comes with a laugh or even a chuckle, but it is hardly a requirement.

just in case, here are two examples. there are moments in both of these which are certainly funny, but it should be pretty self-evident that the principal purpose of neither of these bits is to be funny - although of course the cynics amongst us will no doubt point out that the principal purpose of both of these bits is to get paid.

you're really fixating on this aren't you!!

you stick a machine gun in my face I'll tell you I'm mother teresa

He was a policeman, with a gun, even though he was shot (before they talked to him) he could have shot them and or given his colleagues useful information, if you think about it it makes sense for them to kill him.

And of course you've totally ignored the many replies stating his was the 'enemy' in there eyes.

Define "true" Muslims. As far as these people are concerned they're the only true ones in this situation. Everyone else isn't, even if they profess to be Muslim.

Seems the trocaderois in lock down now??

And seems that the cops are holding back on the brothers because they think they are in contact with the second hostage taker.

Couple of hours ago the news sources thought the things was coming to a conclusion .. hmmm

I did not realize that the traffic cop killer had not been caught yet :-O

If people are acting as "roving reporters" on this thread quoting live news, then unless they are actually at the scene, isn't it correct form to also quote a news source with a link irrespective of whether it is Reuters or the Daily Mail's own?

Can't you look it up?
http://www.20minutes.fr/societe/1513...anement-fermes

So looks like two definitely killed at the kosher place siege and the image of the two suspects has been released.

Looks at her eyes in the photo

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...yesterday.html

Someone help me keep up at the back...

Two gunmen from the Charlie Hebdo attack are now holed up in a warehouse with at least one hostage.

There's at least one other person holding hostages at a Kosher shop, seems likely he knows the other two.

Somewhere a cop was shot? By one of the bad guys mentioned above?

Someone is holding a hostage in a print shop?

I'm with Tom1234, please include links when you're talking about a development because it gets confusing quite quickly.

Print shop and warehouse must be the same place. Although that industrial looking building is huge based on CNN live feed, maybe there are separate units inside?

It's many hours old news now.. Confirmed news by the police / interior ministry no longer live speculation.

The 2 hebdo shooters are in the print shop with one hostage.

The police woman shooter is in a kosher food shop with around 5 hostages.

The link between all of the shooters is confirmed and they are thought to be in contact with each other.

A further woman is being sought in relation to the above.

The trocadero was evacuated and re-opened.

Nothing else confirmed that i've seen.

EDIT : But I still think something stinks around the ID card stuff i mentioned before.

So, there are now 2 hostages situations in and around Paris which are likely taking the majority of police resources. The current belief is that the hostage takers from the different situations are in contact, and it's all but confirmed that they are part of the same cell.

The police resource situation is made worse as a result of the police guarding the remaining members of the Charlie Hebdo staff who have temporarily setup shop in the HQ of Liberation

This leaves the rest of Paris with little police presence.

Although I can't believe it was planned this way, If there are any further cell members then now would be a tactically opportune time to kick something else off.

Hence I'm sitting here wondering what's next.

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welcome to the Forum, assuming you're not a sockpuppet?

Someone has probably already beaten me to it