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Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings

We are all armchair warriors.....this lady shows what is true courage in blasted Aleppo
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The numbers were indeed mental .. I heard one number today of 80k heavily armed cops.
Imagine similar happened in the UK. All the cops in high vis yellow jackets with pepper spray at the ready
Homeopathic pepper spray only or health and safety might get involved.
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Old 09.01.2015, 23:44
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The vitriolic, racist anti Muslim and generally anti-immigration comments on French FB and Twitter are massively shocking- despite the tragic circumstances.
Oh really? Hmmm, I wonder why.
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Old 09.01.2015, 23:45
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Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings

I just came across an article titled "One Muslim tells the world 'I'm sorry.'"

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/09/wo...rpt/index.html

Cheers to CNN for publishing it. The media has so much power over the minds of the masses. I think it's important for messages like this to serve as a reminder that not all Muslims condone violent behavior.
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If you wonder why, are you saying the Muslims of France were responsible for the attacks?
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Oh really? Hmmm, I wonder why.
Because people instinctively generalize. And some people will use this as an excuse to justify their (most likely already existing) xenophobia and anti-Muslim sentiments.
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Quite a far reaching explanation. I think what they are expressing is called "anger" because they were just attacked.

I'm not so sure they're in the mood to be considering an increase in social aid at the moment.
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Old 09.01.2015, 23:53
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In fairness, so are many Catholics in Ireland, perhaps.
As a Catholic born and raised in Ireland please explain your comment.
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Old 09.01.2015, 23:54
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I just came across an article titled "One Muslim tells the world 'I'm sorry.'"

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/09/wo...rpt/index.html

Cheers to CNN for publishing it. The media has so much power over the minds of the masses. I think it's important for messages like this to serve as a reminder that not all Muslims condone violent behavior.
A very interesting article as well here on #jesuisAhmed
And the police woman killed in the Montrouge attack, Clarissa Jean-Philippe, was black originally from Martinique and she was a trainee!
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Why do you even bother trying to compare the two? It's Guardian logic. Did he kill people in the name of his religion?
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Because people instinctively generalize. And some people will use this as an excuse to justify their (most likely already existing) xenophobia and anti-Muslim sentiments.

As is clearly Marine Lepen and her National Front supporters- whipping up hatred and intolerance and loving every minute of this tragedy.
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...Well, my apologies then. The majority of this thread (earlier) had led me to believe that the terrorists had attacked the magazine in reaction to the fact that it had published satirical cartoons regarding Islam. I think that's also what the media had assumed, no?
Just saw this post now. My reply was in response to Tom, who asked what the attack at the Kosher shop had to do with the attack on the magazine artists. I still don't know. Thus why I think the guest expert on TV was on the right track - these guys weren't really terrorists in the sense of jihadis. They were plain old criminals cowards hiding behind Islam (at the very least the guy at the grocery was).

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Why do you even bother trying to compare the two? It's Guardian logic. Did he kill people in the name of his religion?
yes he did...but you did not read his manifesto then
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People have very short memories. We have always had terrorism: from anarchists and fascists in the twenties and thirties, to the Red Brigades and Palestinians in the sixties and seventies, the IRA, ETA, Tamil Tigers and on and on... it's nothing new. Nor, for that matter, is the phenomenon of "shadowy forces" taking advantage of young dickheads to stir things up a bit (there's nothing "tinfoil hat" about this - the practice is quite widely recorded, usually a few decades after the fact).

If and when "Islamism" is defeated, there'll be some other movement to take its place, so let's not kid ourselves that we'll ever be able to live in a world free of hostage taking, random shooting and bombing.

In the meantime, our governments will make a nice big piece of theatre for our benefit (88 000 coppers, eh?), knowing full well that employing Saudi Arabia as a key ally in our War on Terror is as effective as employing the Soviet Union as a key ally in our battle against communism would have been. Here, Mr Wolf, can you help us with this problem we're having with disappearing sheep?

It's all bollocks.

In other news this week, some bloke in America tried to kill a load of people at an NAACP office, some communists perpetrated a suicide bomb attack in Turkey, and FARC are still up to their usual nonsense in Colombia.

So it goes.

(Anyway, when are you Americans going to apologise for NORAID? What's sauce for the goose, and all that...)

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yes he did...but you did not read his manifesto then
No, did you? All 1500 pages of it? I'll tell you why I didn't, because they're the ramblings of psychopath. You could perhaps argue that he killed for "Christian values" but he said himself he wasn't religious. You can't compare the two.
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Many people linked Brevik to mosad and Isreal..

There are still teams analysing his 'manifesto' to try to work out the 'hidden meaning' .. If there is one.
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No, did you? All 1500 pages of it? I'll tell you why I didn't, because they're the ramblings of psychopath. You could perhaps argue that he killed for "Christian values" but he said himself he wasn't religious. You can't compare the two.
he described himself as "modern day crusader".....seems pretty clear.
he is as crazy and psychopath as the Kouachi brothers and other extreme islamists.
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Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings

Odile,

Anders was a monster.
So are all others who butcher in the name of defending ANY other religious belief.
Time to stop fishing for any kind of justification for the reasons involved.
IS and AlQuaeda have butchered 100s of thousands over the past few decades.
The Conquistadors over the past centuries have done the same.
Millions were burned in France, Spain, Italy,Germany and England in religious wars.

It's time to consign this forking bs to the dustbin.
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It's time to consign this forking bs to the dustbin.
Go on, then. How?
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