I thought it was funny. Pakistanis complain about the influence of Arab wahhabism as a source of extremism. Its flag indicates it is a wannabe Turkish country. But I think its true remedy is to be a wanna-be Indian country. It would be fantastic if it turned into a wanna-be French country.

You can do better than that Pashosh

Israel

• Laws on blasphemy (Check - Articles 170 and 173 of the penal code)
• Corruption (One of the most corrupt countries amongst developed states)
• Arbitary borders (Perhaps not in the minds of Israelis )
• Lack of democracy (may be a democracy, but a recent bill confirms Israel as a nation-state of the Jewish people, reserving “national rights” only for Jews)

What's Israel got to do with Pakistan?

Yea, the Illuminati NWO or Space Alien Lizards are a better scapegoat than Jews. At least nobody gets hurt.

#IllRideWithJew

Could not resist this one, says something like "this would be better with pictures"

What's Pakistan got to do with Charlie Hebdo?

Hosting and training Islamist terrorists for starters.

Israel's borders were arbitrary in 1948, before the first Arab war. since then, it has established its own borders principally by winning the armed conflicts it was drawn into in 1948 and 1967.

I am hardly a fan of the way Israel conducts its foreign policy, but all this whining about it taking territory after winning wars drives me a little batty. had Palestine and certain other Arab nations been content with the way the civil war was proposed to be resolved in 1948, a whole helluva lot of heartache and bloodshed might have been avoided in the last 60+ years.

Pancakes, yes it would be creepy if you and I agreed. So stop trying please. In the meantime, you can look into the history of journalism, particularly in the role of William Randolph Hearst in the Spanish-American War. Those of us who know to be critical know. How old did you say you were?

A friendly reminder to please keep personal attacks out of this discussion. We've done pretty well for 50 pages, so let's not derail things now. Thanks.

Can somebody start another thread? Would be an insult to the French dead to turn this into another Palestine/Israel mud throwing contest

Some great cartoons around now, there is a display of 47 in 20min, link here.
Mostly in English!

Where can we get a copy of Charlie Hebdo in Zuerich?

The big newspaper shop on the ground floor level at Zürich HB usually has a handful on display. I guess they'll be sold out quick though.

Phos, I could say "The sky is blue," and you would still probably try to find a way to argue with me.

Peace.

A little deeper into the background of this topic, where exactly in Islam is the drawing of Mohammed prohibitted? Which book and verse, and what was the context around it?

Anjem Choudary just said the next Charlie Hebdo cover amounted to an act of war. We've been depicting prophets for thousands of years. How is this different? Why does the media continue to give this man airtime if he doesn't represent Islam?

A high ranking police chief tasked with investigating the shooting of one of the victims turns gun on himself.



Pass me a tinfoil hat, but I think he was onto something

There's nothing in the Koran forbidding depictions of Mohammed. The idea is to prevent idol-worship such as in Christianity. A very interesting article about it here:

http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/wo...hootings-paris

Of course I can. I post facts

That is what I thought, and there is room for interpretation based on various traditions. In the case of today's Charlie Hebdo, the image is not used for worship. If anyone is attributing so much worth to it, its the extremists and terrorists who are closer to idolatry than the cartoonist. In the current issue, it satirically depicts an affectionate and compassionate Mohammad empathizing with victims of violence done in his name. That is far more elevated than the angry, vengeful Mohammad the same Muslims represent him as. So where is the Islamic crime here?