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16.01.2015, 10:13
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| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | The Hebdoo Cartoons did no damage to Christianity or Judaism. They did a great deal of damage to Islam, not because they were well done, but because Islam is shot through with violent anger and insecurity. | | | | | You're attracted to these kinds of threads like white on rice (your posting history is almost exclusively anti-Islam and anti-Palestine) | 
16.01.2015, 10:30
| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | I think every ideology ought to be subject to criticism. | | | | | Absolutely. Including Charlie Hebdo itself. Along the lines of Socrates, "An unexamined life is not worth living". If something has not withstood criticism, there is something wrong with it.
Criticisms are merely opportunities for refinement.
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16.01.2015, 11:09
| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | You're attracted to these kinds of threads like white on rice (your posting history is almost exclusively anti-Islam and anti-Palestine)  | | | | | What's your excuse ?
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16.01.2015, 11:15
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| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | What's your excuse ? | | | | | Castro's been anti Jewish? Lots of searches and can't find any of that.
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16.01.2015, 11:24
| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | Castro's been anti Jewish? Lots of searches and can't find any of that. | | | | | If memory serves Castro supports BDS, calls Israel "heartless nation", studiously ignores Arab (especially Palestinian) regular atrocities & terrible human rights record.
Yet he is a Mod, and wonderful isn't.
Anyway - Muslims are the biggest victim of Islamist terrorism. The big dillema is is how to help them. A Muslim/Arab helped by the west is immeditely branded collaborator and is shunned or killed.
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16.01.2015, 11:30
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| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | If memory serves Castro supports BDS, calls Israel "heartless nation", studiously ignores Arab (especially Palestinian) regular atrocities & terrible human rights record.
Yet he is a Mod, and wonderful isn't. | | | | | Yes, he does seem to be pro-Palestinian but there's nothing wrong with that. And certainly political views dont and shouldn't have anything to do with being a mod.
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16.01.2015, 11:31
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| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | If memory serves Castro supports BDS, calls Israel "heartless nation", studiously ignores Arab (especially Palestinian) regular atrocities & terrible human rights record | | | | | And yet I have a huge amount of respect for the Jewish religion and people and think that Israel is not a true reflection of who they are or their cultural history. The founding father of Israel didn't even believe in God.
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16.01.2015, 11:41
| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | You're attracted to these kinds of threads like white on rice (your posting history is almost exclusively anti-Islam and anti-Palestine)  | | | | |
Do you know how many Muslims there are in Europe ? 50.000.000 ?
If only one of them is a Jihadists, you'll have 50.000 Jihadists doing their job.
But there also millions of Muslims who contibute to European society, are against terror (hopefully you too, Mr Castro) on of them even hiding Jews in Paris last week.
No, Mr. Castro, I am not against Islam - I am against murder, violence, Terror.
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16.01.2015, 11:47
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| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | Do you know how many Muslims there are in Europe ? 50.000.000 ?
If only one of them is a Jihadists, you'll have 50.000 Jihadists doing their job.
But there also millions of Muslims who contibute to European society, are against terror (hopefully you too, Mr Castro) on of them even hiding Jews in Paris last week.
No, Mr. Castro, I am not against Islam - I am against murder, violence, Terror. | | | | | Do you mean 1%? You think one in one hundred Muslims is a terrorist? Try 0.001%
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16.01.2015, 12:48
| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | Do you mean 1%? You think one in one hundred Muslims is a terrorist? Try 0.001% | | | | | That statement sounds more sentimental/wishful than factual.
How do you come to that number, and how do you define what a terrorist is?
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16.01.2015, 12:56
| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | Do you mean 1%? You think one in one hundred Muslims is a terrorist? Try 0.001% | | | | |
Please read again my post: I said "if" -
Again I am not against any Muslim. But I am against the one Jihadists who will be annoyed by some article, movie etc. and spread destruction and death in Schools, Restaurants, Museum or hurl bombs and so on.
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16.01.2015, 13:00
| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | And yet I have a huge amount of respect for the Jewish religion and people and think that Israel is not a true reflection of who they are or their cultural history. The founding father of Israel didn't even believe in God. | | | | | So you only have problem with living, independant jews. what a relief.
As patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, anti-zionisn is the first refuge of ther antisemite.
You are entitiled to your view about Israel. No Israeli will attack your kids school because of them. I wish I could say the same thing about Muslims - the majority of whom are antisemitic (Note the near total abcense of Jews in Muslim countries) and a minority actively supporting terrorism.
You should participate in debates about Israel in the same way Shell participates in debates about global warming - with clear declaration of interest and not as a Mod.
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16.01.2015, 13:01
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| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | That statement sounds more sentimental/wishful than factual.
How do you come to that number, and how do you define what a terrorist is? | | | | | Extreme, public violence to strike influential terror into people normally for political or ideological ends. You think there are as many as 15000 people (0.01% of muslims) sitting at home wanting to blow themselves up or similar?
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16.01.2015, 13:04
| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | Extreme, public violence to strike influential terror into people normally for political or ideological ends. You think there are as many as 15000 people (0.01% of muslims) sitting at home wanting to blow themselves up or similar? | | | | | Well, only one finger can fit one trigger on one gun at one time. So they would have had to fire to be a considered a terrorist in your count? What happens to your statistic when factoring those who provide logistical, ideological and moral support? Or potential and propensity to commit terrorism?
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16.01.2015, 13:27
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| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings
Newspapers reporting a new hostage situation in Paris, no details yet | 
16.01.2015, 13:28
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| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | Well, only one finger can fit one trigger on one gun at one time. So they would have had to fire to be a considered a terrorist in your count? What happens to your statistic when factoring those who provide logistical, ideological and moral support? Or potential and propensity to commit terrorism? | | | | | I'll add those who provide real support. But not moral support. And not those who might at some point in the future become a terrorist. Enough drone strikes and that number rises towards 100%
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16.01.2015, 13:33
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| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | Newspapers reporting a new hostage situation in Paris, no details yet  | | | | | Yesterday's news, in Belgium | Quote: |  | | | Counter-terrorist units foiled what was described as a jihadist plot to stage a major attack in eastern Belgium on Thursday evening, killing two gunmen and wounding another in a shootout in the town of Verviers near the German border.
The federal prosecutor, Eric Van Der Sypt, denied there was any link with last week’s attacks in Paris, but drew parallels with the Charlie Hebdo incident.
He said a terrorist outrage may only have been hours away: “This operation stopped a major terrorist attack from taking place. You could say a second potential Paris has been averted.”
All three gunmen, he said, were Belgian nationals. Police sources told Belgian television stations they had resolved to launch the pre-emptive operation against the terrorist suspects a fortnight ago after bugging the homes and cars of the men who were said to have recently returned from fighting in the war in Syria. The investigation concluded that a large-scale attack was imminent, targeting police stations. | | | | | http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ports-verviers | This user would like to thank greenmount for this useful post: | | 
16.01.2015, 13:45
| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | You should participate in debates about Israel in the same way Shell participates in debates about global warming - with clear declaration of interest and not as a Mod. | | | | | To be fair to Castro, he doesn't abuse his Mod role for his own personal purpose and agenda. He participates in the threads as anyone else. Some of the junk posted on these threads can be painful, yet he doesn't jump on others unfairly. He executes his Mod role impartially. I only wish I would hear more of his views.
Thanks for the work Castro! You are loved and appreciated.
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16.01.2015, 13:53
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| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings | Quote: | |  | | | Newspapers reporting a new hostage situation in Paris, no details yet  | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | No, today in Paris.. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st-office.html | The following 2 users would like to thank hannah'sauntie for this useful post: | | 
16.01.2015, 14:10
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| | Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings
Apparently, it is someone holding people hostage inside a post office just outside of Paris, since earlier this afternoon.
The latest I've read is that: "The gunman might be mentally unstable [no shit, Sherlock  ]... Police added that they don't know yet if the incident is related to terrorism."
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