1. If there is a Muslim Ummah which feels injured by the existence of a tiny Jewish state (which treats it's Muslim citizens better their Muslim countries treat theirs), then this Ummah should feel responsible whenever there is a Muslim terrorist attack (practicaly all day, every day) - you can't have it both ways. remember than next time you see a huge Muslim rally against Israel.

2. I agree - concentrating on Israel is double-racist: Antisemitic and Anti Arab (the racism of low expectations).

...counterbalanced in Jewish scripture with multiple promises of eviction (see Lev. 18:26-28; 20:22; Deut. 28:63-66, among others), which rather unequivocally transpired most recently at the hands of the Romans in 70 AD (see the section of history written by Jewish historian Flavius Josephus "Wars of the Jews" - here is one of multiple online references [kindly ignore the poster's early references to Christian scriptures]).

Bottom line: even in the Jewish scriptures (longings aside), possession of Jerusalem and the 'Promised Land' were conditional, not unconditionally perpetual.

(Charlie Hebdo or not — I'll stop opposing Zionism here when it stops being defended here.)

I wonder if Latifa is allowed to talk about what has been happening in France- is she French enough for you? Not the best article about her volunteerwor, but the only one in English so far.

http://www.bloomberg.com/…/paris-killings-leave-france-trou…


Some people on the other hand have no shame- sales of Charlie H current or older mags are selling for ridiculous prices on the Net- and a whole array of other stuff like t-shirts, mugs, etc. Investments for people who never seen or read Charlie H- as said before, a farce, a shameful farce.

So their possession of Jerusalem implies the condition has been meant. Or do you propose to be the judge of the Jews? The longing itself is Judaism.

Is the modern secular state of Israel's "possession" of Jerusalem somehow proof of (secular) Israel's obedience to the Jewish scriptures? (For example, are sacrifices again being carried out according to the unequivocal requirements of the Jewish scriptures?)

Otherwise, on exactly what basis would you like to suggest that any "condition" has been "met" — other than purely human aggression — entitling the secular state of Israel to occupy territory originally granted conditionally/tentatively (according to the Jewish scriptures) to obedient (i.e., spiritual — not secular) Jews?

(Keep digging — I've got all the time in the world.)

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Well you tell me. You're the one with the claim they don't belong there because they haven't met some conditions.

I'm making no claim other than to show that the Jewish scriptures don't promise unconditional or perpetual possession or ownership of the land. I have yet to observe a compelling, let alone plausible, argument to the contrary — particularly based on the Jewish scriptures.

I'm still waiting.

France awards citizenship to Malian man (Lassana Bathily) who hid hostages in fridge during the Kosher market hostage taking in Paris.

http://mashable.com/2015/01/15/paris...1uZDFnZHFtMCJ9


Nice gesture.

Post 1180 last night- keep up a the back.

Yes, nicel.

Only went back two pages to check. My time is precious you know.

The anti-muslim hate speech starts to have first impacts this week:

- muslim eritrean stabbed to death in Dresden

- muslim saudi PhD student stabbed to death in Essex

- muslim 47 years old stabbed to death in his house in Vaucluse (south france) by a 28y shouting "death to muslims"

In all three cases police mentions racist motive. Add to the list attacks on mosques (arsons, tags, profanation). Constant stigmatization of a community leads to this violence. The pestilential hatred speeches lead to murders....in both directions. I hope that those who convey these messages online, on social media platforms or offline will be punished.

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A good place to start would be to read the views of Neturei Karta who claim to represent the 'position of the Torah and authentic unadulterated Judaism' and then work your way along the chain to those who claim the conditions for a Jewish State have been met. The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.

This is probably one of the best sermon about the recent events from a prominent Muslim brother.

http://youtu.be/SzP8e9b_OT8

Terrible
Hope they catch the murderers.

Neterei Karta is to Judaism as the KKK is to Christianity. Just sayin

According to Phos ISIL and other scary takfiri nutcases are an authentic voice within the Muslim experience... or something like that

They're genuine Muslims but 99% of their thoughts and actions are un- or anti-Islamic.

One of the things that the Islamic global community could do is to admit that the penetration of Islam into so-called Islamic countries is less than complete. Once again, education, education, education. An illiterate from the mountains is going to know little more than the name of his religion and the pre-Islamic rules his tribe adheres to. For him to then be the loudest voice in Islam, even for a day, needs to be solved.

The gift that keeps on giving [laughs]


Christian Bale brutally beaten by Moslem jehadists after he refused to change his name to Muslim Bale. #foxnewsfacts


Having recently found Islam,England's Queen Elizabeth now ritually beheads apostates weekly,live on TV #foxnewsfacts


A typical street corner in Birmingham UK. Muslims have started naming buildings after their holy sites #FoxNewsFacts


Brighton now also a caliphate. See the giant mosque. #foxnewsfacts


The Queen is now being forced to wear a hijab by 'Moslems' due to the sharia law enforcement in the UK #foxnewsfacts


White boys are now being made to wear the Islamic dress code due to sharia law enforcements in the uk #foxnewsfacts

Castro, its not according to me. Its according to them, and according to all those that support them, who are Muslims. ISIS movements are very interesting in its alignment to Islamic prophecies; e.g., the importance of Syria, the placements in Yemen, and the establishment of the Caliphate according to end times prophecies. I can post references if desired.

Also, none of this can really be addressed by military action, particularly the west. These need an ideological and theological counter narrative. Such a counter cannot come from Washington. It must come from the Ummah. It does not help for the Ummah to disassociate itself from this, and resign to it as some sort of CIA creation. It is Muslims who are being hurt by this. I really do think it is Muslims who need to step up on confronting it. Not to accept blame for it, but simply to take responsibility for it.

If only the same outrage to cartoons is expressed when all the incredible offensive violence is displayed, this would not grow as large as it is now. As it is, it gets global support from the Muslim world.

Its not a matter of convincing me or others this is not Islam. Its a matter of convincing them.

Going mental when Muhammed is depicted is unIslamic. That's a simple fact and can be easily proven.