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Going mental when Muhammed is depicted is unIslamic. That's a simple fact and can be easily proven.
I would hope, but then who are those that rioted in Pakistan, Niger and elsewhere today? 4 died in Niger as just a reaction to Charlie Hebdo. They apparently did not get that memo? Anyone care to prove that simple fact to them?
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I would hope, but then who are those that rioted in Pakistan, Niger and elsewhere today?
Resolutely unIslamic Muslims.
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Resolutely unIslamic Muslims.
Wow, have you just decimated the Ummah from 1.8 to 1.0 billion? You get to decide who is Unislamic and who is not? I've been asking around about you. Would you mind going on a speaking tour?
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Wow, have you just decimated the Ummah from 1.8 to 1.0 billion? You get to decide who is Unislamic and who is not? I've been asking around about you. Would you mind going on a speaking tour?
Anyone can be a Muslim but it's tough to be a good Muslim.
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The latest "Je suis" poster gets closer to the truth....

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The latest "Je suis" poster gets closer to the truth....

The tinfoil hat brigade have my absolute contempt. The doubt everything and they use their total ignorance to do it.
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The tinfoil hat brigade have my absolute contempt. The doubt everything and they use their total ignorance to do it.
Day by day the official story is looking ever more doubtful.
Ignorance is closing your eyes and ears to evidence that either confirms or contradicts that story.
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Day by day the official story is looking ever more doubtful.
Of course it does, just make a website with a paypal donation account, like any other conspiration and enjoy your new career. Charlie Hebdo are the first in line to wish you luck and success with it. They love irony.
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This may help you understand the way the wind is blowing from Washington - then maybe not.

Eric Holder Urges U.S. Allies To Adopt FBI Terror Sting Tactics

PS I've got nothing against US citizens, only that the US govt. has turned most European nations into vassal states. The Charlie Hebdo incident was IMO possibly part of that strategy.
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Old 18.01.2015, 10:51
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Re: France: Charlie Hebdo Office shootings

Serikously, how can any sane adult believe that the US government organised the killings in order to "cow France"? It's beyond moronic.

Don't get me wrong, I think the US government has done some seriously shady **** in its time and isn't above clandestine assassinations and the like... but organising two moron gunmen to massacre the staff of a French magazine, which was such an openly public and amateur job? Yeah... right. Sigh.
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Speaking in the Al-Azhar University, a Center of Islamic learning, Egyptian president Abdel Fattah al-Sisi asks:
"does it make sense that "1.6 billion People (the world's islamic population) should want to kill the rest of the worlds' inhabitants .... so that they may live ?"
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Serikously, how can any sane adult believe that the US government organised the killings in order to "cow France"? It's beyond moronic.

Don't get me wrong, I think the US government has done some seriously shady **** in its time and isn't above clandestine assassinations and the like... but organising two moron gunmen to massacre the staff of a French magazine, which was such an openly public and amateur job? Yeah... right. Sigh.
Agreed- it's nonsense. But that does not mean that those events cannot now be 'conveniently' exploited by the US and allies to justify further attacks on the 'Muslim' (yes I know it is not an entity) world! (not Saudi Arabia of course! what hypocrisy).
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Old 18.01.2015, 13:13
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Agreed- it's nonsense. But that does not mean that those events cannot now be 'conveniently' exploited by the US and allies to justify further attacks on the 'Muslim' (yes I know it is not an entity) world! (not Saudi Arabia of course! what hypocrisy).
Well yes... but an event being exploited is not the same as an event being orchestrated, so that would be something completely different.
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Predicted it in post 2. Surprised it didn't start sooner, to be honest.
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Agreed- it's nonsense. But that does not mean that those events cannot now be 'conveniently' exploited by the US and allies to justify further attacks on the 'Muslim' (yes I know it is not an entity) world! (not Saudi Arabia of course! what hypocrisy).
This perspective and polemic that US and allies attack the 'Muslim World' is big part of the problem. Western military actions have been along the lines of attacking terrorists and tyrants, often on behalf of Muslims themselves. These actions align with geopolitical and economic interests, pragmatically. But to state that the West attacks Muslims to steal their oil IS the Islamist Extremist's narrative. It is what motivates radical terrorism today. I think its a big distortion of the truth and needs to be more lucidly understood.
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This perspective and polemic that US and allies attack the 'Muslim World' is big part of the problem. Western military actions have been along the lines of attacking terrorists and tyrants, often on behalf of Muslims themselves. These actions align with geopolitical and economic interests, pragmatically. But to state that the West attacks Muslims to steal their oil IS the Islamist Extremist's narrative. It is what motivates radical terrorism today. I think its a big distortion of the truth and needs to be more lucidly understood.

The truth is that no matter how many times the authors of savage deeds of barbarism proclaim that they are acting in the Name of Al-lah, the "Prophet", or the "holy koran", no matter how many Imams praise their actions and rejoice in their upholding the honor of Islam; no matter how many times they announce that their goal is imposition of sharia, Muslim religious law, on the entire world, no matter how many foundational Islamic texts calling for war on the infidels they cite - they can still count on Western apologists to deny their actions have aything to do with Islam.


Why ? Because everyone knows that "Islam is a Religion of peace". These flights of fancy have consequences. They endanger citizens of the West.
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Anyone read of the glorious Golden Age of Islam ?












A long time ago, the Arabs managed to develop a majestic civilation - Andalusia - ever been to Granada with its magnificent walls ? Ever seen the magnificent Islamic Calligraphy ?
This was a time when Europeans studied at the feet of Islamic, Christian and Jewish scholars, learning medicine, philosophy and medicine.


Cordoba had a library with over 600.000 manuscripts - Andalusia had 70 libraries !


Barbarism and illiteracy was high in Europe, while Andalusia was busy teaching and learning Astronomy, Physics, Algebra, literature, hydrostatics, astrology. In fact, it's because of Arab Music we have the flute. And universities and college degrees.
They encouraged free thought, discussions.
And then in 1485 the printing press was banned from the Ottoman Empire by decree. Which do you prefer ? The Golden Age of Islam or .... ?
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... but organising two moron gunmen to massacre the staff of a French magazine, which was such an openly public and amateur job? Yeah... right. Sigh.
The gunmen who did the deed weren't morons. Unlike most terrorists (who are often eager to die on site for their cause), they did their business and left unscathed. The two 'morons' who were subsequently accused and killed (therefore unable to tell any story) were implicated by an ID conspicuously left behind in a getaway car. I don't find it a stretch at all that the perps and the dead brothers could be two different pairs of men.

Furthermore, Hamyd Mourad, the alleged third Charlie Hebdo participant turned himself in immediately upon discovering he was named, in part because he has a solid alibi and ostensibly in order to avoid getting taken out as a "terrorist" like the Kouachi brothers. I doubt we'll hear much more about him.

EDIT: It's furthermore noteworthy that the (originally) widely disseminated video documenting the alleged head shot at a police officer already lying on the ground yields, no blood, in fact no signs of any bodily trauma at all(!!). A nearly point-blank head shot with no immediately visible trauma is pretty much impossible.
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Furthermore, Hamyd Mourad, the alleged third Charlie Hebdo participant turned himself in immediately upon discovering he was named.
I don't mind conspiration theories, I am a literature teacher, but you can't use this guy in the plot. His name came up like all kind of other names came up and yes, he was out of the picture very quickly. He was NEVER an "alleged third participant". If he was named so by the media, blame the media, not the police.
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