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Old 23.01.2015, 18:24
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Re: King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia 1924-2015

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It's such a shame he died of pneumonia and wasn't stoned to death.

Good riddance.

At least some good news today.
Hopefully.... The new king will do more for human rights. So I won't be jumping on the good news hope yet
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Re: King Salman -- the king is dead, long live the King

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Hopefully.... The new king will do more for human rights. So I won't be jumping on the good news hope yet

While such things would be nice I do not believe in such positive
news. I expect the regime to continue in the old way



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I think one thread on the death and succession of the Saudi King is sufficient.

Sure, but should be named after the new king. el rey es muerte, eviva el rey

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Old 23.01.2015, 18:45
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Re: burial of King Abdullah as -Saud -- president Erdogan present

This afternoon the late King was buried. The leaders of the neighbour countres and as one of the few non Arabs also Turkey president Erdogan were present
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Old 23.01.2015, 18:54
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Re: King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia 1924-2015

News reports about flags at half mast on UK government buildings such as Westminster Abbey and parliament to mourn his passing.

Ummmm ... WHY?? Is it "give more votes to the UKIP" day?
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Old 23.01.2015, 19:11
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Re: King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia 1924-2015

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News reports about flags at half mast on UK government buildings such as Westminster Abbey and parliament to mourn his passing.

Ummmm ... WHY?? Is it "give more votes to the UKIP" day?
See the UK.gov website. It has to do with the passing of a foreign monarch. Monarchs like to pat each other on the back.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/h...f-saudi-arabia
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Re: King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia 1924-2015

the death of the "king" of without question the most God-awful place in the entire world that a US citizen can enter received 100,000 times more national press coverage in the US today than the recognition of MLK, Jr. Day earlier this week. an absolute and utter embarrassment.

the only thing that saddens me about the event is that what he died from was not contagious. this will no doubt challenge US-Saudi relations in the near term, especially with the situation with Yemen, US gulfcoast expansion and investment in shale, potentially-improving relations with Iran and a very confident and aggressive Israel. which, from my perspective, is long past due - even Iran has greater future potential of joining the civilized world than the Saudis.
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Old 23.01.2015, 19:58
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Re: King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia 1924-2015

The reason why countries are making a big deal of it for political and economical reasons. While I might not like this kind of demonstrations, I have to admit, it might be for good reasons. You don't want these guys against you so better play the friendship cards for long term goals.
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Old 23.01.2015, 19:59
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Re: King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia 1924-2015

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News reports about flags at half mast on UK government buildings such as Westminster Abbey and parliament to mourn his passing.
Interesting how this is not even being done in Saudi Arabia

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He was buried in an unmarked grave in Riyadh, following Friday prayers.

His burial was conducted in line with the traditions of Wahhabism - the ultra-conservative form of Sunni Islam followed by the kingdom - where funerals are austere and simple.

Protocol permits no official mourning period, government offices stay open and flags remain at full mast.

Public displays of grief are frowned upon by a religious establishment which views every aspect of life and death as a submission to God's supreme will.

That means funerals are very austere and puritanical in character, with a strong impression of egalitarianism in death.
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Old 23.01.2015, 20:03
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Interesting how this is not even being done in Saudi Arabia

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That means funerals are very austere and puritanical in character, with a strong impression of egalitarianism in death.
If this was true in gender equality while alive..
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If this was true in gender equality while alive..
Egalitarianism among MEN is what is meant
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Old 24.01.2015, 11:06
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Re: King SALMAN and further Kings

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Egalitarianism among MEN is what is meant

Here a Survey about the succession-rules in question


24 January 2015

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Under Saudi law, the monarch must be a son or grandson of Abdulaziz, who died in 1953. All Saudi kings to date have been his sons.
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The late King Abdullah set new rules for determining the line of succession within Saudi Arabia’s vast ruling family. The king also established a new mechanism for declaring the reigning monarch or his designated successor unfit to carry out their duties, temporarily or permanently. King Abdullah in October 2006 created the “Council of Allegiance” to decide on the succession, a committee of 35 descendants of the kingdom’s founder Abdulaziz Al Saud.
Under Saudi law, the monarch must be a son or grandson of Abdulaziz, who passed in 1953. All Saudi kings to date have been his sons.
The committee, chaired by Prince Mishaal, the oldest surviving son of Abdulaziz, takes its decisions by majority vote in a secret ballot, with a quorum of two-thirds.
The committee is formally charged with the “preservation of the state and the unity and cohesion of the ruling family, as well as the unity of the nation and the interests of the people”. Upon the death of a king, the committee meets in an emergency session to formally declare the crown prince as the new ruler. The new monarch must then propose to the council within 10 days his candidates for the post of crown prince. It chooses a crown prince from up to three candidates put forward by the king, but it has the authority to reject them all and put forward its own name. The king can reject its nominee and the committee will then have a month to hold a vote to choose between the king’s candidate and its own.
Members of the committee have a four-year term each, non-renewable without the consensus of their brothers and the king’s approval.
King Abdullah also set up a medical commission of five members, three of them doctors, to pronounce on the ability of the king or crown prince to continue in his duties. In the event of the monarch’s incapacitation, an interim council of five members — descendants of Abdulaziz — is to supervise the kingdom’s affairs for up to a week while the wider committee decides on a successor.
Before King Abdullah changed the rules, the crown prince had been selected by informal consensus within the royal family. —


---- plus here the full Name of King Salman
King Salman bin Abdul-Aziz bin AbdurRahman bin Faisal bin Turki bin Abdullah bin Mohammed as-Sa'ud
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Old 24.01.2015, 11:40
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Re: King SALMAN and further Kings

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---- plus here the full Name of King Salman
King Salman bin Abdul-Aziz bin AbdurRahman bin Faisal bin Turki bin Abdullah bin Mohammed as-Sa'ud
I thought it was:

King Salman bin Abdul-Aziz bin AbdurRahman bin drinking bin Faisal bin to a brothel on the Cote d'Azur bin to Turki bin to a stoning bin Abdullah bin on holiday bin Mohammed as-Sa'ud bin night is Thursday
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Re: King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia 1924-2015

I read this on another forum and it made me chuckle:

'Wahhabism - imagine a toxic Nazi death cult laced with extremist Calvinite bigotry combined with the most sick-making brain-dead happy-clappy evangelical sh$t boosted up with a massive shot of high-grade oil money in the arm - and you're about half way there. Utterly f$$cking sh&it. Sh$$ that has contingent causes elsewhere, but sh &&t nonetheless and there is no funking excuse for it.'
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Egalitarianism among free MEN is what is meant
Sounds like ancient Greek democracy to me...
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But not the biggest news for Swiss Public Radio:
News at 9 am on SRF 3 today
First report: Federer lost in round 3 of the Australian Open. Detailed analysis of each of four sets played.
Second Report: King Abdullah died.
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News reports about flags at half mast on UK government buildings such as Westminster Abbey and parliament to mourn his passing.

Ummmm ... WHY?? Is it "give more votes to the UKIP" day?

I suspect the UK political establishment is jam packed with perverts who like playing the submissive role.
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Re: King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia 1924-2015

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I read this on another forum and it made me chuckle:

'Wahhabism - imagine a toxic Nazi death cult laced with extremist Calvinite bigotry combined with the most sick-making brain-dead happy-clappy evangelical sh$t boosted up with a massive shot of high-grade oil money in the arm - and you're about half way there. Utterly f$$cking sh&it. Sh$$ that has contingent causes elsewhere, but sh &&t nonetheless and there is no funking excuse for it.'


I rather see Wahhabism as an optimistic live cult laced with Extremist Roman Catholic bigotry boosted with money from some Roman Catholic Banks ..... yes, there is no excuse
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Egalitarianism among MEN is what is meant
An absolute monarchy run by spoilt brats who never did a day's work in their life is such an egalitarian principle.
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An absolute monarchy run by spoilt brats who never did a day's work in their life is such an egalitarian principle.

The REAL Problem is that King SALMAN is rumoured to be a dedicated conservative -- we will see
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The REAL Problem is that King SALMAN is rumoured to be a dedicated conservative -- we will see
No, he's SNP.
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Re: King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia 1924-2015

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"The late king's half brother Muqrin, who is in his late 60s, has been named the new crown prince, the official statement said."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30945324
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Will be interesting to see if it stays that way.

Abdullah selected Mugrin and Abdullah is gone now
As I expected Mugrin has been (fired) replaced today - but this happened much more quickly than I thought would happen. Quite a few other changes in the heirarchy making the key people younger which is a good move, what policy impact will be I do not know.
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