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Old 04.02.2015, 10:24
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TransAsia Airways ATR-72 has crashed off Taipei

Thirteen people are confirmed dead and dozens remain missing after the TransAsia Airways ATR-72, carrying 58 people, veered out of control en route from Taipei to Kinmen, off the coast of the Chinese province of Xiamen.

Dashcam video recorded the crash.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/02/03/wo...sia/index.html
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Old 04.02.2015, 11:17
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Re: TransAsia Airways ATR-72 has crashed off Taipei

holy crap! the plane tip hit the taxi!
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Old 04.02.2015, 11:28
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Re: TransAsia Airways ATR-72 has crashed off Taipei

Crazy, huh? Two people in the taxi were injured but okay. What surprised me is the driver of the car with the camera didn't seem to slow down until after the plane clipped the taxi and bridge.
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Old 04.02.2015, 11:58
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Re: TransAsia Airways ATR-72 has crashed off Taipei

he had to rush home to upload the video to his youtube channel

or he's russian
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Re: TransAsia Airways ATR-72 has crashed off Taipei

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Crazy, huh? Two people in the taxi were injured but okay. What surprised me is the driver of the car with the camera didn't seem to slow down until after the plane clipped the taxi and bridge.
Although it's clear on the wide angle of the camera, the driver probably didn't really see it until just before it hit the bridge - when driving you tend not to scan the sky for errant aircraft. Then a "WTF just happened moment" would follow and finally the driver would slowly come to stop not quite believing what had just occurred.
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Although it's clear on the wide angle of the camera, the driver probably didn't really see it until just before it hit the bridge - when driving you tend not to scan the sky for errant aircraft. Then a "WTF just happened moment" would follow and finally the driver would slowly come to stop not quite believing what had just occurred.
I think I willl from now on though .
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I always quickly scan both directions before driving over a level crossing.

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Thirteen people are confirmed dead and dozens remain missing after the TransAsia Airways ATR-72, carrying 58 people, veered out of control en route from Taipei to Kinmen, off the coast of the Chinese province of Xiamen.

Dashcam video recorded the crash.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/02/03/wo...sia/index.html
Looks like it could have been a port engine failure, with no or incorrect feathering, causing drag, and too much power on the starboard engine, giving too much lift, resulting in catastrophic port wing drop ...... but I'm just speculating.

Although it was dropping like a stone at wings level.



Looking again, it could be both engine failure, by the way it was dropping, and the pilot was trying to clear the road and pulled up too much, initiating a stall, with severe (port) wing drop (which is characteristic of a stall).

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Re: TransAsia Airways ATR-72 has crashed off Taipei

Seemed to be good piloting up until just before the bridge as it was fairly level and avoiding all the housing.
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Looking again, it could be both engine failure, by the way it was dropping, and the pilot was trying to clear the road and pulled up too much, initiating a stall, with severe (port) wing drop (which is characteristic of a stall).



This gets my vote. Relative stable descent with incipient stall. Assuming pilot increased AOA in an attempt to clear the "hard" concrete bridge and land in the "soft" water beyond.
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Re: TransAsia Airways ATR-72 has crashed off Taipei

The taxi driver got the biggest tip of his life
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