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Old 22.02.2019, 16:12
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Re: More girls running off to join ISIS

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Radical Islam is a problem. I'm anti radical islam, not anti Muslims.

Your posts are clearly antisemitic. This forum is quite forgiving to these views.
I find your blanket statement that any Muslim traveling to Pakistan and visiting mosques there is suspicious and should be arrested "but released earlier" far more radical than a pun on Israelis in bulldozer. He just called out your double standards and he isnt the only one seeing them...

Just to be clear: antisemitic is anything that spreads hate towards Jews or their religion. Not agreeing to Israel or the politics of the country is not antisemitic even though the right winged folks, particularly in the UK, love to pretend it is.
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Old 22.02.2019, 16:28
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I find your blanket statement that any Muslim traveling to Pakistan and visiting mosques there is suspicious and should be arrested "but released earlier" far more radical than a pun on Israelis in bulldozer. He just called out your double standards and he isnt the only one seeing them...

Just to be clear: antisemitic is anything that spreads hate towards Jews or their religion. Not agreeing to Israel or the politics of the country is not antisemitic even though the right winged folks, particularly in the UK, love to pretend it is.
The person in question wasn't a tourist "visiting Pakistani Mosques" - he went there to study the local version of Islam. the Taliban version.
Should he be arrested for 10 years just for that - no. but neither is he the innocent tourist you claim he is.

Israel has nothing to do with this thread, the only reason to bring it up is antisemitic trolling.

"Not agreeing to Israel" is often used to mask this racism, See the famous UK right winger - Macron.
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Old 22.02.2019, 17:21
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"Not agreeing to Israel" is often used to mask this racism, See the famous UK right winger - Macron.
calling anyone who disagrees with what isreal is doing a racist antisemite is often used to close down discussions.
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Old 22.02.2019, 19:51
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calling anyone who disagrees with what isreal is doing a racist antisemite is often used to close down discussions.
Funnily enough, claiming that criticism of Israel always gets shut down by people bringing the claim of antisemitism is also used to close down discussions. Often by antisemites.
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Funnily enough, claiming that criticism of Israel always gets shut down by people bringing the claim of antisemitism is also used to close down discussions. Often by antisemites.
Had you told me that before I would have told them that you will try to tell him that what you will tell me on such an occasion, in particular that he's trying to shut down a discussion that's been shut down already, is rather devoid of logic.
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Funnily enough, claiming that criticism of Israel always gets shut down by people bringing the claim of antisemitism is also used to close down discussions. Often by antisemites.
When everything else has been said or speculated, bring up the Israeli case into discussion. Whataboutism..

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Re: More girls running off to join ISIS

The baby has died.

Cue bleeding heart sh1tstorm in the UK.

Labour and BBC already out condemning Sajid Javid.

Obviously no blame being apportioned to the mother.
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Old 09.03.2019, 08:44
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Had you told me that before I would have told them that you will try to tell him that what you will tell me on such an occasion, in particular that he's trying to shut down a discussion that's been shut down already, is rather devoid of logic.
I can tell you're a legal professional. It took me several readings to parse that!

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The baby has died.
That's sad.
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That's sad.
Sadder still is that people who see the unnecessary tragedy in this baby’s short life are derided as ‘bleeding hearts’. Simply as a parent, it affects me that another woman has lost three children. Sod the circumstances, it’s just sad, full stop.
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Choose to raise children in the 7th century, get 7th century rates of child mortality shocker.
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Re: More girls running off to join ISIS

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Funny to read the views of middleclass Anglo Saxons with their privileged backgrounds
No clue about where these girls come from, say for example Birmingham, totally segregated places
No sense of responsibility for the mess they created with the Vienna Congress and the various stupidities and manipulations in the middle-East region
Guess that is now beautifully exposed in the Brexit soap where ignorance reigns and the old empire sentiments are exposed
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Old 09.03.2019, 12:13
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Funny to read the views of middleclass Anglo Saxons with their privileged backgrounds
No clue about where these girls come from, say for example Birmingham, totally segregated places
No sense of responsibility for the mess they created with the Vienna Congress and the various stupidities and manipulations in the middle-East region
Guess that is now beautifully exposed in the Brexit soap where ignorance reigns and the old empire sentiments are exposed
And where did the others come from that joined IS? Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland..... and more countries.
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Birmingham? Segregated? What are you smoking?
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Funny to read the views of middleclass Anglo Saxons with their privileged backgrounds
No clue about where these girls come from, say for example Birmingham, totally segregated places
No sense of responsibility for the mess they created with the Vienna Congress and the various stupidities and manipulations in the middle-East region
Guess that is now beautifully exposed in the Brexit soap where ignorance reigns and the old empire sentiments are exposed
Anglophobia to some bollocks about Birmingham to the Vienna Congress to Brexit. All of which have nothing to do with a girl who chose to run off and have her kids in a death cult.
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Re: More girls running off to join ISIS

at last some sense:
'The Conservative MP Phillip Lee said the decision was driven by populism. He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “Clearly Shamima Begum holds abhorrent views and to want to join Islamic State is beyond all comprehension, but she was a child, a product of our society.'
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'The Conservative MP Phillip Lee said the decision was driven by populism. He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “Clearly Shamima Begum holds abhorrent views and to want to join Islamic State is beyond all comprehension, but she was a child, a product of our society.'
Never mind that! I want to hear about your experiences in the segregated city of Birmingham.

Please, tell us more!
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'The Conservative MP Phillip Lee said the decision was driven by populism. He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “Clearly Shamima Begum holds abhorrent views and to want to join Islamic State is beyond all comprehension, but she was a child, a product of our society.'
A product of her parents, friends, area where she lived? I wouldn´t say that only society is to blame.

Who knows why someone suddenly has weird ideas of joining IS? Why are some people radicalized and others not? Blaming it just on society is easy, finding the real cause is difficult.
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Old 09.03.2019, 16:02
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at last some sense:
'The Conservative MP Phillip Lee said the decision was driven by populism. He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “Clearly Shamima Begum holds abhorrent views and to want to join Islamic State is beyond all comprehension, but she was a child, an aberrant product of our society.'
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.......a product of our society.'
and again, everyone’s to blame apart from the actual person (surely by now she’s a victim of the UK?) who’s married a terrorist and supported terrorism and has tried to breed little terrorists.
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Once again, we are confronted with tales of silly young girls, abandoning family, friends and all the good things a life in the West has to offer for an uncertain fate in the middle east somewhere to join an unruly bunch of men.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10059763.html

How could this be ? they are sacrificing so much. Their iPhone will not work out there, they'll have no TV to watch their favorite shows, no nail technicians to fiddle about with their nails and no shopping malls where they can try on dozens of different pairs shoes, etc. ? It would seem that, somehow, civilised life has failed them.

I imagine, that at that age, they start having romantic notions about marriage, starting a family etc. and this makes the whole thing even more difficult to comprehend. Out there, their choices will be limited to a few rough types, that is if they are given a choice at all. And they have no guarantee of any good treatment. Contrast that with the situation in the West with many clean cut young men, fulfilling the ideal of perfect husband.

Does it not defy understanding that they would reject the obvious choices that the West has to offer, and go looking in some far off land ? . . .
Guess they are looking for more action. The European men are too boring for them
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