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Old 12.08.2016, 23:40
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Re: More girls running off to join ISIS

At the time they left the girls were 15 years old, and for everyone it was
quite a shock that they had run away to Syria. Obviously someone from ISIS
persuaded them all to leave, and being young they saw it as a big adventure.

Muslim families are very strict with their children, they always need to know
exactly where and whom they are with. I don't think you can blame these
parents, as they really didn't know where their girls were.

Since then I think everyone has learned a lot, and a little sympathy wouldn't
be out of place.
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Old 13.08.2016, 00:57
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Since then I think everyone has learned a lot, and a little sympathy wouldn't
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Mmm, well that looks grand. I think I'll travel all the way to Syria to join this lot.

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Old 13.08.2016, 07:46
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...Muslim families are very strict with their children, they always need to know exactly where and whom they are with.
To me that doesn't really gel with this
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Old 13.08.2016, 09:21
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At the time they left the girls were 15 years old, and for everyone it was
quite a shock that they had run away to Syria. Obviously someone from ISIS
persuaded them all to leave, and being young they saw it as a big adventure.

Muslim families are very strict with their children, they always need to know
exactly where and whom they are with. I don't think you can blame these
parents, as they really didn't know where their girls were.

Since then I think everyone has learned a lot, and a little sympathy wouldn't
be out of place.

the masochistic Girls have not run away to Syira but to ISIS -- right into slavery
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Re: More girls running off to join ISIS

... and now they want to come back.

According to this menace, she is worried about her unborn child.

Adoption sounds like a good idea.
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Old 14.02.2019, 11:13
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... and now they want to come back.

According to this menace, she is worried about her unborn child.

Adoption sounds like a good idea.
And she even lost two children that were born during her stay in ISIS!
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According to this menace, she is worried about her unborn child.
From her recorded interview, she has no remorse, which leaves the Foreign Office with a bit of a headache. My instant personal reaction is Stuff her! but there is a legality to the situation that I won't pretend to have an answer to.
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Old 14.02.2019, 11:15
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And she even lost two children that were born during her stay in ISIS! Let her stay where she is, as she even shows no apparent regret about anything done in her last 4 years.
Not no apparent regret, she straight out says she has no regrets. She also justifies the beheading of journalists.
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Old 14.02.2019, 11:26
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Re: More girls running off to join ISIS

If she's a British citizen, she is entitled to return. She is also entitled to consular assistance where possible.

If she is suspected of committing a crime under British law, she should be arrested upon her return.

If she is not suspected of having committed any crime, then she should be left alone.

I don't see what's so complicated here. Even hateful idiots have rights.
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Old 14.02.2019, 11:30
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If she is suspected of committing a crime under British law, she should be arrested upon her return....

...I don't see what's so complicated here. Even hateful idiots have rights.
Less tangible is, is she a threat to national security?
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Old 14.02.2019, 11:32
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Not no apparent regret, she straight out says she has no regrets. She also justifies the beheading of journalists.
Just imagine what kind of an upbringing she would give her child(ren) in the UK
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Less tangible is, is she a threat to national security?
A 19 year old, rather stupid kid? Possibly.

She still has rights, nonetheless.

Otherwise, any of us could be randomly deemed "a threat to national security".
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Old 14.02.2019, 11:37
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If she's a British citizen, she is entitled to return. She is also entitled to consular assistance where possible.

If she is suspected of committing a crime under British law, she should be arrested upon her return.

If she is not suspected of having committed any crime, then she should be left alone.

I don't see what's so complicated here. Even hateful idiots have rights.
yes, no, maybe

she join a terrorist organisation, married a terrorist, is having a terrorist kid, and seemingly thinks that's all still ok but want some nice free healthcare.

Do her rights trump other people living in the uk's rights? she's a security risk, her husband is a security risk, and being bought up by her her kids are a security risk.

she made her bed.
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Old 14.02.2019, 11:42
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yes, no, maybe

she join a terrorist organisation, married a terrorist, is having a terrorist kid, and seemingly thinks that's all still ok but want some nice free healthcare.

Do her rights trump other people living in the uk's rights? she's a security risk, her husband is a security risk, and being bought up by her her kids are a security risk.

she made her bed.
She is a dozy bint and too proud to admit it. If membership of the organisation is a crime, then she should be arrested upon return. If not, what crimes has she committed?

If being a gobby cow with loathsome opinions was a crime, there'd be no room in Winson Green for any real criminals.
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Old 14.02.2019, 11:46
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She is a dozy bint and too proud to admit it. If membership of the organisation is a crime, then she should be arrested upon return. If not, what crimes has she committed?

If being a gobby cow with loathsome opinions was a crime, there'd be no room in Winson Green for any real criminals.
you see thats why I'm not in a position of authority

I'd be sat in the emperor's chair giving the command - kill them, all of them
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you see thats why I'm not in a position of authority

I'd be sat in the emperor's chair giving the command - kill them, all of them
You mean like a member of ISIS?
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Old 14.02.2019, 12:07
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You mean like a member of ISIS?
up against the wall you!!
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Re: More girls running off to join ISIS

If I remember correctly, in my native Holland a minister once said that it were better if something happens to these people over there. He was hinting at an 'unfortunate accident' or just plain death penalty after a quick local trial.
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A 19 year old, rather stupid kid? Possibly.

She still has rights, nonetheless.

Otherwise, any of us could be randomly deemed "a threat to national security".
Too late mate!
The Home Secretary has power to deprive a person of British citizenship.

A Home Office Freedom of Information response in June 2016 revealed that there had been 81 deprivation of citizenship orders made in the years 2006-2015.

Source
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Too late mate!
The Home Secretary has power to deprive a person of British citizenship.

A Home Office Freedom of Information response in June 2016 revealed that there had been 81 deprivation of citizenship orders made in the years 2006-2015.

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Are these women dual nationals?
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