Or a dog or a cat.

A Vietnamese girl lost her dog recently and found it a few days later. Cooked and ready to eat at a market food stall.

She was devastated.

The story didn't say whether she bought it and ate it anyway...

Link

I took it to be a (alpine) mountain goat and thought it meant the cloud was low and they were actually flying into the mountain while they assumed the goat was flying in the sky above the clouds. Could have totally misunderstood the 'joke' of course.

I was talking about the height of hte revolution when the revolutionaries and the old giard were fighting for control of the airport- while I was in it. I think that Lufthansa were the first to successfully land. British Airways tried maay times but had to abort the landing and turn back. I will try to read Scholl-Latour, if I find a translation. If you want to know about the Middle East during that time I recommend Robert E Huyser, Mission to Tehran.

There should be a change in the law to protect the rights of the deceased who die in such tragic circumstances. I think that we do need to know the details so that we take measure to try to ensure that it does not happen again, but loved ones do not deserve for the deceased to be remembered by what was on that cell phone. Loved ones should be given the resources (such as unbiased legal counsel, accommodation etc.) to collect together and make decisions concerning personal belongings and private information, without the interference of the public, press or air authorities.

So, as the latest investigation reports show, the first officer had his oxygen mask on, right before the crash. I wonder why.

To make it look good.

Tom

Very interesting documentary currently on UK channel 4, centring around the tragedy, called `How safe are our planes?` . . for those with access to UK channels.

Pretty simple to explain...in case the captain succeeded in depressurising the plane (which apparently would have unlocked the cockpit door but unfortunately disabled the captain).

If the mask was needed, the captain wouldn't have been concious and able to bang on the cockpit door.

Interesting that you trust the audio recording to hint that the co-pilot was wearing the mask (there is nothing else to confirm this) but not that his voice could be identified as the one in the cockpit...

Aren't there portable oxygen masks available to the cabin crew? There ahould be for an emergency landing preparation and for a first-aid.

Yes smoke hoods with a built in oxy generator and slso portable 310 litre oxygen bottles and masks. . There are also 120 litre versions depending on cabin lay outs and internal approvals

And I bet they didn't have 1 person with a maintenance background just retired pilots who don't have a clue what really happens.

the aspect with the many Kids is particularily depressing for sure, but what can we do ? also weird is that those who could go were Chosen by a Kind of lottery. and strange also that most were Girls. I can imagine many a Boy condemned to stay at home, green of anger and envy, now learning about the matter. I still remember a colleague in Commercial School (KV Zch) who had made me very angry, just before the Holiday and who during the Holiday DIED in a traffic accident. I felt badly but what ?

I believe procedure, at least on US flights is for the pilot of the plane to put on the mask when he is alone in the cabin as an added safety measure in case of an emergency before the other pilot returns. If it is procedure, he may have have been expected to put it on before the other pilot left, and just didn't bother to remove it.

I thought that on US flights, the pilots are NOT allowed to be on their own in the cabin - or did I read that wrong.

No, you're right. I've read that too. But I also remember being told about the rule, and seeing a pilot in the cockpit wearing the mask as one leaves (only on smaller planes, the big ones don't really allow you a sight line to the cockpit). Since the flight attendant isn't a pilot- maybe the only person up there who can actually fly the plane should be wearing one?

Edit: I found this in FAA regulations on Oxygen use:

Section 135.89
4) If one pilot leaves a pilot duty station of an aircraft when operating at altitudes above

25,000 feet MSL, the remaining pilot at the controls shall put on and use an approved

oxygen mask until the other pilot returns to the pilot duty station of the aircraft.

Huffington Post just posted an article using a photo misidentifying a man from Bern as Andreas Lubitz. Shoddy journalism, HP.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_6986936.html

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/sto...selt--23560531

The second flight recorder has been found.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32159602

"In a separate development, German prosecutors have revealed that Lubitz had researched suicide methods and cockpit door security online."

Tom

Bachmann is an IDIOT

He was reading how to *prevent* suicides, stupid! /LiB