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The National Executive Committee has been taken over by bunch of Trots. Now the purge will start. I wonder when the first rebellious MPs will get deselected? Sarah Champion probably realises this.

In other news, Eddie Izzard also didn't get elected to the NEC. Perhaps Labour are finally learning something?

http://www.labour.org.uk/pages/natio...elections-2016
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The National Executive Committee has been taken over by bunch of Trots. Now the purge will start. I wonder when the first rebellious MPs will get deselected? Sarah Champion probably realises this.

In other news, Eddie Izzard also didn't get elected to the NEC. Perhaps Labour are finally learning something?

http://www.labour.org.uk/pages/natio...elections-2016
If they start deselecting MPs in significant numbers it will force them to start another party; is that really what the NEC wants
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If they start deselecting MPs in significant numbers it will force them to start another party; is that really what the NEC wants
That wouldn't bother them, they know the vast majority of people vote for a party not an MP.
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Old 09.08.2016, 10:07
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That wouldn't bother them, they know the vast majority of people vote for a party not an MP.
You mean like in the Brexit referendum where the two major parties were against Brexit
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Candidates backed by Momentum and other groups supporting Jeremy Corbyn sweep the board at Labour NEC elections


This article mentions that the founder of Momentum is Jon Lansman (Jonathan Lansman).


Momentum apparently consists of three companies, all of which, according to the Duedil company information page, are headed by Jon Lansman. He is the sole director listed for Jeremy For Labour Limited and New Hope For Labour (Data Holdings) Limited, while for Momentum Campaign (Services) Limited he is listed as a director along with Samuel Peter Tarry, a trade union official. The Momentum website doesn't seem to mention these companies or the people running Momentum.


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But even the most blind of faith must admit that Momentum is not a political party. It's not a movement or a cause or a religion.


It's a company.


Or rather, three - Jeremy For Labour Limited, Momentum Campaign (Services) Limited, and New Hope For Labour (Data Holdings) Limited.


None of these companies have yet filed accounts so we have no idea if they're making a profit although Momentum membership costs from £5 to £500 a year.


There's also no mention of these firms on Momentum's well-edited Wikipedia page.
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If they start deselecting MPs in significant numbers it will force them to start another party; is that really what the NEC wants
Momentum's founder would appear to be in favour of it.

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Mervyn Jones identified Lansman as part of a group on the left of the Labour Party that were "quite prepared to see a right-wing breakaway as the necessary cost of swinging the party in what they saw as the desired direction."[12] Alongside Vladimir Derer and Victor Schonfield, Lansman was described as "unreservedly dedicated", with "no political ambitions of [his] own" and "in a position to work day and night for the cause without pay."[12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Lansman

At 58, Lansman is more influential than he was at any point in his career. He is the founder and chair of Momentum, the group established by Corbyn’s allies. He is also one of the party’s most feared figures. Because of his lifelong advocacy of mandatory reselection, critical MPs believe Momentum will be used as a vehicle for their removal.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...ier-win-jeremy

He also seems to be behind Left Futures ("an independent on-line network which seeks to bring to the web the best writing and the sharpest criticism on the Left"..."If you want to get involved as a contributor, please contact Jon Lansman using the form on this page"). One of their articles: Western hypocrisy towards Putin is breathtaking

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You mean like in the Brexit referendum where the two major parties were against Brexit
Well that's where the problem has arisen here. We couldn't really tell which side the Labour party were on in the Brexit referendum.
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Momentum's founder would appear to be in favour of it.




He also seems to be behind Left Futures ("an independent on-line network which seeks to bring to the web the best writing and the sharpest criticism on the Left"..."If you want to get involved as a contributor, please contact Jon Lansman using the form on this page"). One of their articles: Western hypocrisy towards Putin is breathtaking
I suspect there are more than a few roubles supporting Momentum; same as CND some years ago
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There's some banter at http://labourbristol.org/.
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There's some banter at http://labourbristol.org/.
Well, well, well. Very interesting.

"The Momentum machine is quick to attack anyone who speaks out and label them as part of a conspiracy. This is reminiscent of Russia's aggressive online propaganda policy."

Hmm... Momentum does seem a bit like Nashi. Their T-shirts even look similar.
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/FK61B9/part...er!-FK61B9.jpg
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There's some banter at http://labourbristol.org/.
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Bristol Labour ‏@LabourBristol 2h2 hours ago We are aware that our website has been taken over and are unable to access it. We know who is responsible and are taking action against them
https://twitter.com/labourbristol

Hmmm...
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Well, well, well. Very interesting.
I wouldn't take it too seriously. That website says Corbyn went to private school. He didn't.

Here's some more, watching Labour at the moment is too funny.

https://twitter.com/MichaelDugher/st...66505071992832
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I wouldn't take it too seriously. That website says Corbyn went to private school. He didn't.

Here's some more, watching Labour at the moment is too funny.

https://twitter.com/MichaelDugher/st...66505071992832
Corbyn was educated at Castle House Preparatory School, an independent school near Newport, Shropshire.
Before attending Adams' Grammar School (In 1950 the school became a voluntary aided school) as a day student.
Adams' is a selective school which admits both boarding and day pupils.

A galaxy away from your local comprehensive
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Posting the whole thing here in case it disappears. Perhaps this was the reason for the hijacking:
Preserved here

http://uk.businessinsider.com/bristo...hneider-2016-8
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Corbyn was educated at Castle House Preparatory School, an independent school near Newport, Shropshire.
Before attending Adams' Grammar School (In 1950 the school became a voluntary aided school) as a day student.
Adams' is a selective school which admits both boarding and day pupils.

A galaxy away from your local comprehensive
It's grammar school with no tuition fees. Not a private school.
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Here's some more, watching Labour at the moment is too funny.
It's horrendous and it's not just Labour. The whole debarcle with Steven Woolfe being 17mins late submitting his leadership application, allowing his UKIP membership to lapse for over a year, and (allegedly) having failed to declare a drink driving conviction... I expect better from a barrister, nevermind a political party leader.
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It's grammar school with no tuition fees. Not a private school.
Wrong one...

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Do primary schools count?
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Do primary schools count?
I think essentially, fee paying schools count to be honest. I don't think little Jeremy and Piers would have lasted long in a comprehensive.

Even Terry Christian (love him or loathe him, he's definitely no Blairite!) slated Corbyn on The Wright Stuff today. Like a few of my friends, he voted Corbyn, but is very disenchanted with him now.
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Do primary schools count?
No of course primary schools do not count! Then you can safely believe you were correct when you wrote Corbyn did not attend a private school.

Quote "Castle House gives a thoroughly good grounding and preparation for whichever senior school a child will move to.

Able children who work hard and who receive a Castle House education have a very good chance of passing the entrance exams to Adams’ Grammar School or Newport High School. It should be borne in mind that these schools offer a very academic curriculum, are highly competitive to enter and are not necessarily suitable for all children. They require the very highest level of academic ability."

The whole thing reeks of preference and privilege.
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