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Old 07.09.2015, 16:39
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I know you (and the other groups helping refugees) are totally busy, but can someone start finding out what professions or jobs these people had? it would make it easier to find them jobs, especially if you show they are not only goat herders, which I think some people think. there are places in the world that are depopulating and could probably use an entire community transplanted there to jumpstart their economy. God bless you for your advocacy. maybe this notice will also bring assistance to those in camps in Jordan and elsewhere.
If you are in the USA, you might be able to help with this one?

https://fortress.wa.gov/esd/worksour...er=JobIDSearch
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Old 07.09.2015, 16:42
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If you are in the USA, you might be able to help with this one?

https://fortress.wa.gov/esd/worksour...er=JobIDSearch
In many European countries too there is an absolute shortage of goat herders. I've chatted to several goat herders over the years and in different countries and they all told me the same story. It's not that there's no market for goat's milk and it's not even that there aren't enough subsidies for it but the profession is vanishing because the young people don't want to do it. Meanwhile many regions are saying certain wildflowers face extinction because they depend on being grazed by goats and because that's not happening other flora is pushing them out. It's strange but in the Internet age we actually need goat herders.
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In many European countries too there is an absolute shortage of goat herders.
$750 plus food and board doesn't seem like a salary where there is acute shortage of labourers. So no wonder nobody wants to "enjoy" it.
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

I can't believe the Gulf states refused to take them.
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I can't believe the Gulf states refused to take them.
Gulf states are dictatorships and scared by their own people...refugees represent a threat for them. Fair to say that they are bastards.
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

OMG! I can't believe you found something like that. but Washington state is really nice. and we all forget there are jobs we find funny but serve a real purpose. I apologize to the goat herders of the world.
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Old 07.09.2015, 22:41
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In many European countries too there is an absolute shortage of goat herders. I've chatted to several goat herders over the years and in different countries and they all told me the same story. It's not that there's no market for goat's milk and it's not even that there aren't enough subsidies for it but the profession is vanishing because the young people don't want to do it. Meanwhile many regions are saying certain wildflowers face extinction because they depend on being grazed by goats and because that's not happening other flora is pushing them out. It's strange but in the Internet age we actually need goat herders.
My neice and her husband quit their high-profile fashion designer and finance jobs in NYC to raise goats in Tennessee, go figure.

(and she speaks fluent Italian, as she spent 5 years going to school in Milano, after a crash cuorse here)
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What happened that they changed their mind? I read they wanted to cancel all trains to Austria.

It is difficult to find out what is going on in any EU politicians mind. I could not detect any strategy yet. There are tactical movements.
We think that Budapest and the camps were absolutely crowded. People were camping in large numbers at the stations. Ultras and right wing heros started a movement against refugees which could have escalated quickly. There were many policemen at 2 places but they can't control the whole city.

Some people here think that there were some political bargaining in the background to let them go.

For all of us (migrants, police, volunteers, etc) it is very difficult to follow what is going on. Rules change by the hour, we feel as if we are all part of a bloody chess game.

Like now, stations were emptied in 12 hours. Now the tragedy starts again at the south border, Röszke. It is a corn field in Nowhereland.
There is a hangar where people can queue, sleep and get their fingerprint taken. It is full.
All the rest are waiting (= live) outside on the field. There is no amenities there.
Yesterday there was another birth in the cornfield.
Now we are trying to transport as much stuff as we can to the site.
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Old 08.09.2015, 10:46
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I know you (and the other groups helping refugees) are totally busy, but can someone start finding out what professions or jobs these people had? it would make it easier to find them jobs, especially if you show they are not only goat herders, which I think some people think. there are places in the world that are depopulating and could probably use an entire community transplanted there to jumpstart their economy. God bless you for your advocacy. maybe this notice will also bring assistance to those in camps in Jordan and elsewhere.

I only met some people at Deli station and inthe streets around the immigration office. They were all nice, kind and shy people. They have got dignity and we all really appreciate that. They do not ask for anything, we have to approach them and tell them that we are here to help. Some accept food, some want to change some HUF, some needs baby formula (actually they ask for milk + sugar, but luckily we received formulas and bottles). So EQ wise they are absolutely lovely.
I met a group at 1 am near the immigration office. They only wanted directions and bus schedule. And then they offered me After 8 with a kind smile, sitting on a mat in the street. It was a surrealistic situation.

I read there are many people with master degrees (matematicians, doctors, architects, etc). I am actually envy that Germany gets these people.
And we miss all who left. Some of us received happy thankful messages from "Jarmany" as they arrived.
I only talked with a guy about profession - a mechanic, who does not like cars, he is into motorbikes.
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Old 08.09.2015, 11:02
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

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I only met some people at Deli station and inthe streets around the immigration office. They were all nice, kind and shy people. They have got dignity and we all really appreciate that. They do not ask for anything, we have to approach them and tell them that we are here to help. Some accept food, some want to change some HUF, some needs baby formula (actually they ask for milk + sugar, but luckily we received formulas and bottles). So EQ wise they are absolutely lovely.
I met a group at 1 am near the immigration office. They only wanted directions and bus schedule. And then they offered me After 8 with a kind smile, sitting on a mat in the street. It was a surrealistic situation.

I read there are many people with master degrees (matematicians, doctors, architects, etc). I am actually envy that Germany gets these people.
And we miss all who left. Some of us received happy thankful messages from "Jarmany" as they arrived.
I only talked with a guy about profession - a mechanic, who does not like cars, he is into motorbikes.
There is an online website with jobs for refugees that has been created by german volunteers: www.workeer.de. Please share within the refugees community.

The Vice-Chancelor of Germany stated today that the country could absorb as many as 500'000 refugees per year and this for a few years. The german industry is also ready to offer jobs (Daimler, Porsche etc...).
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

A hungarian camerawoman was caught tripping a syrian refugee holding a child in a camp. She is close to extreme-right group Jobbik and was caught several times tripping refugees. Her employer, an online channel fired her immediately.
Quite ugly attitude.
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A hungarian camerawoman was caught tripping a syrian refugee holding a child in a camp. She is close to extreme-right group Jobbik and was caught several times tripping refugees. Her employer, an online channel fired her immediately.

Quite ugly attitude.
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Indeed. And they will have to deal with German arsonists then.
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A hungarian camerawoman was caught tripping a syrian refugee holding a child in a camp. She is close to extreme-right group Jobbik and was caught several times tripping refugees. Her employer, an online channel fired her immediately.
Quite ugly attitude.
Inexcusable, however the actions of an individual. The press are going to milk this one.

Here's another video from Hungary that won't get close to the same publicity.

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Old 09.09.2015, 09:12
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$750 plus food and board doesn't seem like a salary where there is acute shortage of labourers. So no wonder nobody wants to "enjoy" it.
C'mon. If board and lodgings are payed and you're a young person wishing to do a year or two in between things and do something out of the ordinary its actually a pretty good offer.

Not everywhere is as expesive as Switzerland remember.
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Inexcusable, however the actions of an individual. The press are going to milk this one.

Here's another video from Hungary that won't get close to the same publicity.

So what's your point? There are dicks in all walks of life?
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Re: Donations for Syrian refugees in Budapest

What happened before that 1minute? Why isn't that shown?
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Inexcusable, however the actions of an individual. The press are going to milk this one.

Here's another video from Hungary that won't get close to the same publicity.

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What happened before that 1minute? Why isn't that shown?
title is misleading (they did not target people who gave them asylum), no context for video, I heard maybe 3 or 5 stones hitting the train from a crowd of several hundreds of refugees. Just noise and poor propaganda.
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title is misleading (they did not target people who gave them asylum), no context for video, I heard maybe 3 or 5 stones hitting the train from a crowd of several hundreds of refugees. Just noise and poor propaganda.
What exactly is misleading?

If 3 or 5 out of a crowd of thousands throw rocks at a train, that's just poor proaganda, a statistical fluke, a nothing.

If 3 or 5 people out of tens of thousands of pegida style protesters set fire to an asylum shelter, the press has a field day and throws them all in the same bag.

Different yardsticks anybody?
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I can't believe the Gulf states refused to take them.


Which state on the Arabian Gulf refused to take refugees from Syria ?


And many Syrian refugees are Christians and not interested in emigrating to Muslim countries
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