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Re: How should the EU handle the Migrant Crisis from now?

EU to prosecute Hungary for enforcing Dublin treaty

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Old 10.12.2015, 16:40
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Again - the more strange it seems to me that the asylum debate on this forum - dominated by Anglo-Saxons i.e. immigrants -
is kind of corrupted by continously stiring up hatred to the weaker position, i.e. the refugees - which, btw., is all but a noble attitude(do those have any pride left? What happened to that old stereotype from Robin Hood? I would call that behaviour absolutely "cafone", and apart from this forum, I don't know many persons like this).
I can see the posters on this thread speaking from certain principles that is clear to recognize by those who know them. I get the sense you don't recognize nor understand certain said principles. I assume you don't have them. Hence its been very difficult for you to post anything of much value beyond some light entertainment for us. But let me see if I can give it a go, although I don't expect much from this.

Here, you mention Robin Hood. Is he a hero or role model to you? Does it bother you in the least that Robin Hood was a gangster, extortionist, murderer and thief? Do you see a problem there, and how it relates to this topic?
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Old 10.12.2015, 16:59
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EU to prosecute Hungary for enforcing Dublin treaty

http://news.yahoo.com/eu-executive-o...112154509.html

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Seems the EU is starting legal actions against everyone....except Germany

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The European Union has started legal action against Greece, Italy and Croatia for failing to correctly register migrants.
Tens of thousands of migrants have arrived in those countries over the last few months but less than half of them have been registered by national authorities. Greece has only fingerprinted around 121,000 of the almost half a million people who arrived there between July 20 and Nov. 30 this year, according to the European Commission.
The Commission warned the three countries about the shortfalls two months ago, but said Thursday that these "concerns have not been effectively addressed."
The EU's executive arm said it sent formal letters of notice to the three, the first formal step in infringement proceedings
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Old 10.12.2015, 18:01
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continously stiring up hatred to the weaker position, i.e. the refugees - which, btw., is all but a noble attitude(do those have any pride left? What happened to that old stereotype from Robin Hood?
What exactly are you talking about?

If you actually read what we've been writing we've been taking pot shots at Merkel and Junker. The migrants themselves are a collateral in this. They were attracted to Germany on a false promise by the criminal government we are criticising. To hold them up and say, you can't criticuse Merkel because the migrants are weak is to take the wekest and defenceless hostage and use them as a human shield to protect people who are not one bit weak or defenceless. Shame on you.
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Old 10.12.2015, 18:03
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I can see the posters on this thread speaking from certain principles that is clear to recognize by those who know them. I get the sense you don't recognize nor understand certain said principles. I assume you don't have them. Hence its been very difficult for you to post anything of much value beyond some light entertainment for us. But let me see if I can give it a go, although I don't expect much from this.
He doesn't have or understand any principles and he is thus offended by those who have them. 80 years ago he would have been a Mitläufer. He thinks the guys in power are always right.
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Old 10.12.2015, 18:19
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He doesn't have or understand any principles and he is thus offended by those who have them. 80 years ago he would have been a Mitläufer. He thinks the guys in power are always right.
Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.
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Old 10.12.2015, 19:58
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Re: How should the EU handle the Migrant Crisis from now?

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Parallel society, parallel justice system, criminal gangs counting thousands of members in multiple Berlin quarters, terrorized communities - a study presented by a justice minister of Berlin.

Of course. Worse than Ferguson, L.A. or London, clearly.


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He doesn't have or understand any principles and he is thus offended by those who have them. 80 years ago he would have been a Mitläufer.

Question is not what one would have been if,
but what is.
And it's not me having a problem with articles of the Swiss Constitution and abiding to Swiss law (remember Art. 296 StGB, e.g.?).
Personally, I didn't know that this is so much asked to foreigners, so far.
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Old 10.12.2015, 23:49
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And it's not me having a problem with articles of the Swiss Constitution and abiding to Swiss law (remember Art. 296 StGB, e.g.?).
Remember it? Never even heard of it. As you seem to be implying that the posts herein are somehow contrary to said law, perhaps you'd care to enlighten the EF readership what it is you're trying to say ?
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Old 11.12.2015, 00:48
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Remember it? Never even heard of it. As you seem to be implying that the posts herein are somehow contrary to said law, perhaps you'd care to enlighten the EF readership what it is you're trying to say ?
That's the one about insulting foreign heads of state, that they tried to repeal a few years ago.

Absolutely no idea what the point of the comment is related to migrants, but I guess that's not really surprising. Why troll with something that makes sense.
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Old 11.12.2015, 08:56
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Re: How should the EU handle the Migrant Crisis from now?

Sharia "Police" on the streets of Germany. Expect more of this.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35059488
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Old 11.12.2015, 15:24
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Re: How should the EU handle the Migrant Crisis from now?

For Bucentaure and other Merkel apologists.

The Federal Republic of Germany is not a Napoleonic Continentalist Country as you believe but a financial company with a liability of only 25,000 Euros.

Or maybe not.

http://www.david-kirberich.de/blog/2...brd-eine-gmbh/

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Old 11.12.2015, 16:30
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Re: How should the EU handle the Migrant Crisis from now?

The article mentions an interesting point:
No peace treaty for WWII. Legally Germany is still in a non-peace situation with the allied countries.

Another interesting (to me) point is:
In a democracy the final power resides with its citizens. As such a constition must be accepted by vote, else it's at best a law. Germany has a mockup constitution called Grundgesetz (GG) but that's not a constitution as the people never voted on it. And yet it calls itself democracy.

But that's a bit too far off topic I guess.
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The article mentions an interesting point:
No peace treaty for WWII. Legally Germany is still in a non-peace situation with the allied countries.
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Did you ever hear of "2+4"?


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In a democracy the final power resides with its citizens. As such a constition must be accepted by vote, else it's at best a law. Germany has a mockup constitution called Grundgesetz (GG) but that's not a constitution as the people never voted on it. And yet it calls itself democracy.
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You don't understand much about Constitutional Law, do you?
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Old 11.12.2015, 17:12
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The article mentions an interesting point:
No peace treaty for WWII. Legally Germany is still in a non-peace situation with the allied countries.

Another interesting (to me) point is:
In a democracy the final power resides with its citizens. As such a constition must be accepted by vote, else it's at best a law. Germany has a mockup constitution called Grundgesetz (GG) but that's not a constitution as the people never voted on it. And yet it calls itself democracy.

But that's a bit too far off topic I guess.

That is what I heard from people in Berlin. When the wall fell, nobody really knew what was law and what wasn't. So everyone just did their own thing for a while. So they just kind of patched things together and played it by ear along the way.
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Old 11.12.2015, 17:20
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That is what I heard from people in Berlin. When the wall fell, nobody really knew what was law and what wasn't. So everyone just did their own thing for a while. So they just kind of patched things together and played it by ear along the way.
This is pretty much what happened in all of Germany in 1945. Basically nobody had a clue on what was law and what wasn't. People have stopped worrying about it but its still the situation Germany is in today if you look at it closely. Some of the legislation the Nazis passed is still in place and other bits just went away without ever formally being scrapped from the statute books and there is no real legal explanation of why some laws survived and others didn't other than that they were useful to those in power at the time.

If push came to shove and some sufficiently competent constitutional lawyers got onto it there's probably quite large sections of German law and administration and even of the constitution itself that could be declared void.

It's not for nothing that in Germany there is a law that can send you to prison for 15 years for being "Verfassungsfeindlich", that is for taking a hostile position regarding the constitution. They know they need to cover their bases.
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Re: How should the EU handle the Migrant Crisis from now?

ISIS loves Mutti:


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You don't understand much about Constitutional Law, do you?
In your opinion which part is wrong, in what sense, and what is correct?
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I think Merkel is watching Homeland and trying to second guess the cliffhangers.
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Re: How should the EU handle the Migrant Crisis from now?

If Germany wants migrants, I think it should accept well-educated people rather than Muslims.
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Re: How should the EU handle the Migrant Crisis from now?

I just received an x-mas card from a distant relative in Munich, who explained that she volunteered to help with the migrants but was turned away, as they are too overburdened with migrants to have enough time to train volunteers ???!!.....
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