Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09.09.2015, 09:37
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: N/A
Posts: 659
Groaned at 54 Times in 42 Posts
Thanked 593 Times in 329 Posts
lorena1 has a reputation beyond reputelorena1 has a reputation beyond reputelorena1 has a reputation beyond reputelorena1 has a reputation beyond repute
Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

He has guts to publicly address Russia's questionable internet monitoring and systematic mistreatment of LGBT people. Not sure what's in store for him if Russia evicts him as a consequence.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...-homosexuality

Snowden called Moscow’s restrictions on the web 'a mistake in policy' and 'fundamentally wrong' as he accepted a Norwegian freedom of expression prize by videophone from Russia.

“'I’ve been quite critical of (it) in the past and I’ll continue to be in the future, because this drive that we see in the Russian government to control more and more the internet, to control more and more what people are seeing, even parts of personal lives, deciding what is the appropriate or inappropriate way for people to express their love for one another is fundamentally wrong,' he said.
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank lorena1 for this useful post:
The following 2 users groan at lorena1 for this post:
  #2  
Old 09.09.2015, 10:01
lewton's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Hamburg, Deutschland
Posts: 689
Groaned at 32 Times in 27 Posts
Thanked 655 Times in 374 Posts
lewton has made some interesting contributions
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

I think we knew he has guts, but yeah, it's good to see such a prominent figure criticizing Russia's homophobic laws.
Thumbs up.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank lewton for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 09.09.2015, 10:01
Jack of all trades.'s Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Basel
Posts: 784
Groaned at 21 Times in 14 Posts
Thanked 632 Times in 303 Posts
Jack of all trades. has an excellent reputationJack of all trades. has an excellent reputationJack of all trades. has an excellent reputationJack of all trades. has an excellent reputation
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

He is a righteous character.

Look forward to his first book.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Jack of all trades. for this useful post:
  #4  
Old 09.09.2015, 10:54
esto's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: CHE
Posts: 1,298
Groaned at 48 Times in 46 Posts
Thanked 2,762 Times in 1,186 Posts
esto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond reputeesto has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank esto for this useful post:
  #5  
Old 30.09.2015, 10:49
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: N/A
Posts: 659
Groaned at 54 Times in 42 Posts
Thanked 593 Times in 329 Posts
lorena1 has a reputation beyond reputelorena1 has a reputation beyond reputelorena1 has a reputation beyond reputelorena1 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

Snowden now has Twitter, which amassed more than 800’000 followers in a day. He is quite funny. The only one he is following? The NSA

Last edited by lorena1; 14.06.2016 at 21:41.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank lorena1 for this useful post:
  #6  
Old 30.10.2015, 16:06
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: N/A
Posts: 659
Groaned at 54 Times in 42 Posts
Thanked 593 Times in 329 Posts
lorena1 has a reputation beyond reputelorena1 has a reputation beyond reputelorena1 has a reputation beyond reputelorena1 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

The EP has published a report yesterday, asking Member States to drop chargest against Snowden and reject US extradition requests, amongst other things.
Snowden's legal team in Europe also suggested Member States adopt the resolution in order to protect him from prosecution. Snowden himself reacted to the news on Twitter, calling it a game changer and a chance to move forward.
The EP also requested that the Commission reviews the impact on the ECJ ruling of the Safe Harbor Agreement and take necessary measures to protect data transferred to the US.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08.03.2016, 22:57
FunnyBone's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Earth
Posts: 650
Groaned at 33 Times in 23 Posts
Thanked 935 Times in 434 Posts
FunnyBone has a reputation beyond reputeFunnyBone has a reputation beyond reputeFunnyBone has a reputation beyond reputeFunnyBone has a reputation beyond reputeFunnyBone has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

In other news, a Romanian hacker will be extradited to the US for hacking into the computers of various celebrities, politicians, law enforcement, and this is done while he's still serving his jail sentence in Romania. What is very interesting (to me) is that it seems this guy claims he doesn't know much programming/coding, he did it just by guessing passwords. Is that even possible?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/11/wo...ard-.html?_r=0

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN0W61TX
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08.03.2016, 23:18
miniMia's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: romandie
Posts: 9,569
Groaned at 96 Times in 87 Posts
Thanked 8,340 Times in 4,171 Posts
miniMia has a reputation beyond reputeminiMia has a reputation beyond reputeminiMia has a reputation beyond reputeminiMia has a reputation beyond reputeminiMia has a reputation beyond reputeminiMia has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

Quote:
View Post
In other news, a Romanian hacker will be extradited to the US for hacking into the computers of various celebrities, politicians, law enforcement, and this is done while he's still serving his jail sentence in Romania. What is very interesting (to me) is that it seems this guy claims he doesn't know much programming/coding, he did it just by guessing passwords. Is that even possible?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/11/wo...ard-.html?_r=0

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN0W61TX
Start here. I'm surprised that 'monkey' is even on this list... I was sure no one would ever guess that.

http://gizmodo.com/the-25-most-popul...-id-1753591514
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank miniMia for this useful post:
  #9  
Old 08.03.2016, 23:19
JagWaugh's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Eglisau
Posts: 6,113
Groaned at 42 Times in 41 Posts
Thanked 11,492 Times in 4,544 Posts
JagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

Quote:
View Post
In other news, a Romanian hacker will be extradited to the US for hacking into the computers of various celebrities, politicians, law enforcement, and this is done while he's still serving his jail sentence in Romania. What is very interesting (to me) is that it seems this guy claims he doesn't know much programming/coding, he did it just by guessing passwords. Is that even possible?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/11/wo...ard-.html?_r=0

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN0W61TX


The weakest link in IT security is always the human. Always. The higher up the food chain the more likely that an exception is demanded (and given) to the password complexity and ageing rules.


For all of the devices and cards that you have which allow you to set the PIN, are they all the same? If you have set them all the same then chances are that it is one of: your birthday, wedding day, or birth of your first child.


Text passwords? Place of birth, favorite car, dog, vacation spot, sports team, university, hobby or sport.


No, my password is not "Jaguar"... Grandma95 is waaaaaay more secure as only my mother might be able to guess it.
__________________
If everyone you know agrees with you consistently, they are either not listening, or not capable of critical thought.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 17.01.2017, 23:48
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: N/A
Posts: 659
Groaned at 54 Times in 42 Posts
Thanked 593 Times in 329 Posts
lorena1 has a reputation beyond reputelorena1 has a reputation beyond reputelorena1 has a reputation beyond reputelorena1 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

Obama has commuted the bulk of Chelsea Manning's sentence. No news yet on whether he will also pardon Snowden. Judged by the differentiation made it seems unlikely. nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/politics/obama-commutes-bulk-of-chelsea-mannings-sentence.html
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 18.01.2017, 08:56
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 5,128
Groaned at 159 Times in 134 Posts
Thanked 6,541 Times in 3,361 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

Quote:
View Post
Obama has commuted the bulk of Chelsea Manning's sentence. No news yet on whether he will also pardon Snowden. Judged by the differentiation made it seems unlikely. nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/politics/obama-commutes-bulk-of-chelsea-mannings-sentence.html
There's no verdict so I'd say no pardon possible.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Urs Max for this useful post:
  #12  
Old 07.07.2017, 10:04
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: ZH
Posts: 152
Groaned at 62 Times in 32 Posts
Thanked 56 Times in 39 Posts
edzoom is considered unworthyedzoom is considered unworthyedzoom is considered unworthyedzoom is considered unworthy
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

The programs and the strategy employed by Snowden has changed the world:


Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07.07.2017, 11:48
arz arz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Zurich Witikon
Posts: 115
Groaned at 11 Times in 8 Posts
Thanked 60 Times in 39 Posts
arz has earned some respectarz has earned some respect
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

Quote:
View Post
this guy claims he doesn't know much programming/coding, he did it just by guessing passwords. Is that even possible?
No, it isn't
Somebody is clearly lying here - the guy, the news, or the authorities.
On order to hack to someone's computer, one either needs a free and long physical access to it, or fair knowledge about networking protocols, IP packet structure and traffic tampering. And all that is impossible without deep knowledge of data structures and data processing algorithms. Which is a longer name of "programming"
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07.07.2017, 12:03
JagWaugh's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Eglisau
Posts: 6,113
Groaned at 42 Times in 41 Posts
Thanked 11,492 Times in 4,544 Posts
JagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond reputeJagWaugh has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

Quote:
View Post
No, it isn't
Somebody is clearly lying here - the guy, the news, or the authorities.
On order to hack to someone's computer, one either needs a free and long physical access to it, or fair knowledge about networking protocols, IP packet structure and traffic tampering. And all that is impossible without deep knowledge of data structures and data processing algorithms. Which is a longer name of "programming"
It's true you can only get so far with password guessing, but it's surprising how little programming skill one needs.

Without a hardened perimeter, monitoring of the systems (and investigation of any anomalies), and end to end encryption of all outgoing mails, most systems have a toehold somewhere.

Most people think you can just buy stuff that does all the geeky stuff for them, and even then they usually don't want to spend top dollar.

When was the last time you changed the PIN on a card, or your phone. How about an online account? How about using encryption on your emails?
__________________
If everyone you know agrees with you consistently, they are either not listening, or not capable of critical thought.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07.07.2017, 12:04
bigblue2's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Glarus
Posts: 6,838
Groaned at 334 Times in 273 Posts
Thanked 11,279 Times in 4,541 Posts
bigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

Quote:
View Post
No, it isn't
Somebody is clearly lying here - the guy, the news, or the authorities.
On order to hack to someone's computer, one either needs a free and long physical access to it, or fair knowledge about networking protocols, IP packet structure and traffic tampering. And all that is impossible without deep knowledge of data structures and data processing algorithms. Which is a longer name of "programming"
unless you use default user names and passwords, scott/tiger anyone?

or you use any of the many freely available script kiddie hacking scripts and the person you are trying to 'hack' is a general standard user (who doesn't have a clue about anything)

or

you just phone them up and ask for their username and password.

anyone who's been in IT for more then 10 minutes will be able to bore you for hours with stories of users giving out usernams and passwords, writing them on post-its and sticking them on their monitors, under keyboards etc, using DOB as password, or 12345 or password etc etc etc

the list of most common passwords in the world is pretty small and covers a surprisingly large amount of people
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07.07.2017, 12:28
arz arz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Zurich Witikon
Posts: 115
Groaned at 11 Times in 8 Posts
Thanked 60 Times in 39 Posts
arz has earned some respectarz has earned some respect
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

As per Snowden/Russia relationships, I'd bet they made a deal - Snowden keeps accusing Russia on LGBT discrimination, rasism, sexism, kommunism, marsianism, etc., and enjoys the "likes" from "free world", and Russia keeps enjoying Snowden's services, and, as usually, doesn't care what "free world" likes or dislikes about it.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07.07.2017, 12:35
arz arz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Zurich Witikon
Posts: 115
Groaned at 11 Times in 8 Posts
Thanked 60 Times in 39 Posts
arz has earned some respectarz has earned some respect
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

even if you *know* somebody's username and password, you can "hack" their computer if you have it in hand. Or, if you login remotely. Via a provider with dynamic client-IP adderss. Or over the same WiFi, cracking through default WiFi encryption. Or plant a worm with a backdoor service. Without any knowledge in programming. Yeah, yeah )) Reminds me a story about Russian hackers who forgot a bottle of vodka and Kalashnikov in democrates server racks.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07.07.2017, 12:47
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 6,369
Groaned at 221 Times in 172 Posts
Thanked 7,883 Times in 4,256 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

Quote:
View Post
even if you *know* somebody's username and password, you can "hack" their computer if you have it in hand. Or, if you login remotely. Via a provider with dynamic client-IP adderss. Or over the same WiFi, cracking through default WiFi encryption. Or plant a worm with a backdoor service. Without any knowledge in programming. Yeah, yeah )) Reminds me a story about Russian hackers who forgot a bottle of vodka and Kalashnikov in democrates server racks.
The truth is somewhere in the middle. It is true he had no formal education in this field (or basically in any other field), in fact I'm not sure if he even finished high school.
He was an unemployed taxi driver for a few years with a loooot of time on his hands. Guess the internet provided him with a fair amount of knowledge and tricks.

He started by hacking the e-mail accounts of a lot of local "VIP"s (cough cough, not really) much to the amusement of the public, because everything was in the papers after that. He continued......sigh.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07.07.2017, 12:53
arz arz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Zurich Witikon
Posts: 115
Groaned at 11 Times in 8 Posts
Thanked 60 Times in 39 Posts
arz has earned some respectarz has earned some respect
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

Quote:
View Post
The truth is somewhere in the middle.
That exactly what I meant )) maybe someone of 3 (the guy, the media, the authorities) is not lying, but is just a bit inexact. Like, the guy in fact didn't break into personal computers, he broke into social media accounts. Who cares about the difference? ))
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07.07.2017, 13:03
bigblue2's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Glarus
Posts: 6,838
Groaned at 334 Times in 273 Posts
Thanked 11,279 Times in 4,541 Posts
bigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond reputebigblue2 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Snowden accepts Norwegian prize, slams Russia

Quote:
View Post
As per Snowden/Russia relationships, I'd bet they made a deal - Snowden keeps accusing Russia on LGBT discrimination, rasism, sexism, kommunism, marsianism, etc., and enjoys the "likes" from "free world", and Russia keeps enjoying Snowden's services, and, as usually, doesn't care what "free world" likes or dislikes about it.

snowdon knows nothing, he's an idiot, all he is is a PR coup for russia, nothing he has 'revealed' wasn't already wildly known, he's a fantasist
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Snowden STFU! bigblue2 General off-topic 41 26.05.2015 14:08
High Court refuses to grant arrest warrant for Snowden Jim2007 International affairs/politics 8 09.07.2013 20:04
Phelps accepts 'fair' punishment brüder Football/sports 20 07.02.2009 22:54


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 20:08.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0