Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 21.10.2015, 08:44
Merrylegs's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Vaud/Valais
Posts: 828
Groaned at 30 Times in 19 Posts
Thanked 1,099 Times in 475 Posts
Merrylegs has a reputation beyond reputeMerrylegs has a reputation beyond reputeMerrylegs has a reputation beyond reputeMerrylegs has a reputation beyond reputeMerrylegs has a reputation beyond repute
Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

"He's no 007. After all, he hardly has the stature or physique of a Sean Connery or Daniel Craig.
Dressed in white tie and tails for the state banquet for the Chinese President, Jeremy Corbyn looked more like a downtrodden below-stairs butler or footman in Downtown Abbey than James Bond.
But at least the left-wing Labour leader did the decent thing and wore the required kit of white tie and tails at Buckingham Palace."


Thus quoted Sky News this morning on Comrade Corbyn. Despite his penguin suit, he looked a total mess in sharp contrast to Carstairs of Downton Abbey fame who always looks immaculate!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 21.10.2015, 08:47
dodgyken's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Democratic Republic Kenistan
Posts: 10,746
Groaned at 360 Times in 294 Posts
Thanked 19,401 Times in 7,402 Posts
dodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

Quote:
View Post
Thus quoted Sky News this morning on Comrade Corbyn. Despite his penguin suit, he looked a total mess in sharp contrast to Carstairs of Downton Abbey fame who always looks immaculate!
He could do with getting the right size shirt and learning how to stand up straight. Perhaps a lifetime of bent of over dustbin fires at picket-lines means he can't quite manage that.

Meanwhile Jeremy Corbyn was pictured in a bowler hat this morning on his way meet bankers in the City of London

Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank dodgyken for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 21.10.2015, 10:10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Rheinfelden
Posts: 479
Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 177 Times in 118 Posts
Bexie has an excellent reputationBexie has an excellent reputationBexie has an excellent reputationBexie has an excellent reputation
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

The last Labour leader to follow Corbynite policies was nicknamed Worzel after turning up to a remembrance day service in a donkey jacket.

BTW I knew Corbyn when I was involved in Tory politics in North Islington. He is actually quite a nice guy at a personal level. We both cheered when that pompous idiot Portaloo was kicked out in Enfield North. I was at the Islington count.

Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Bexie for this useful post:
  #4  
Old 28.11.2016, 14:02
Sbrinz's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Murten - Morat
Posts: 11,531
Groaned at 573 Times in 365 Posts
Thanked 11,174 Times in 5,739 Posts
Sbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

Two songs about Corbyn released in time for Christmas,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4_6AIANEvA (disrepectful, from Corbyn the pop group)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QaFxp9uUKg (respectful, about Jeremy Corbyn)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06.06.2017, 09:14
Sbrinz's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Murten - Morat
Posts: 11,531
Groaned at 573 Times in 365 Posts
Thanked 11,174 Times in 5,739 Posts
Sbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

I won't start a new thread.

When I watch Corbyn on TV I believe he has a silken tongue. Trump has the lying politician image, but Corbyn is far more dangerous.

The TV companies interview people on the street who state he has a wonderful manifesto, and he speaks to us as a concerned person....

I am really worried that after the Brexit fiasco and the Trump election, we will get Jeremy Corbyn trying to lead the UK out of Europe, while borrowing loads of money to pay for all his expensive projects.

I am still really worried! The labour party tried to throw him out, and now we are faced with the prospect of him as a prime Minister!

If the voting public don't start to really think about the consequences of their vote, the UK will sink without a trace.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Sbrinz for this useful post:
The following 2 users groan at Sbrinz for this post:
  #6  
Old 06.06.2017, 10:14
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: bern
Posts: 114
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 103 Times in 42 Posts
lewibrfc has earned some respectlewibrfc has earned some respect
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

Quote:
View Post
I won't start a new thread.

When I watch Corbyn on TV I believe he has a silken tongue. Trump has the lying politician image, but Corbyn is far more dangerous.

The TV companies interview people on the street who state he has a wonderful manifesto, and he speaks to us as a concerned person....

I am really worried that after the Brexit fiasco and the Trump election, we will get Jeremy Corbyn trying to lead the UK out of Europe, while borrowing loads of money to pay for all his expensive projects.

I am still really worried! The labour party tried to throw him out, and now we are faced with the prospect of him as a prime Minister!

If the voting public don't start to really think about the consequences of their vote, the UK will sink without a trace.

Sbrinz, I can imagine why people in certain demographics are against Corbyn, yet I'd be interested in hearing why you think he is deceitful? (perhaps I misunderstood your comment)

There are several areas where Corbyn comes up short for me, however over the past two years I've really warmed to him. He seems to have genuine, long-held beliefs about equality, transparency and peace, which he is willing to defend irrespective of popular public opinion. Crucially, he has a refreshing mix of blunt honesty and stubbornness necessary to actually make changes when/if in office.

Yes, he may be a bit too protectionist regarding employment and industry (in my opinion we should be proactively working towards a solution to the inevitable future scenario where there aren't enough long-term jobs). Nonetheless, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that Corbyn means exactly what he says - a rare quality in a politician these days and, in my opinion, probably the real reason so many of his detractors are so scared...
Reply With Quote
The following 6 users would like to thank lewibrfc for this useful post:
This user groans at lewibrfc for this post:
  #7  
Old 06.06.2017, 10:28
Tom1234's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kanton Luzern
Posts: 10,724
Groaned at 280 Times in 223 Posts
Thanked 15,078 Times in 6,122 Posts
Tom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

Quote:
View Post
There are several areas where Corbyn comes up short for me, however over the past two years I've really warmed to him. He seems to have genuine, long-held beliefs about equality, transparency and peace, which he is willing to defend irrespective of popular public opinion. Crucially, he has a refreshing mix of blunt honesty and stubbornness necessary to actually make changes when/if in office.
That's what worries me. He's willing to defend his beliefs in Peace but he's not sure sure about defending Peace itself.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Tom1234 for this useful post:
  #8  
Old 06.06.2017, 10:35
nigelr's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Aargau
Posts: 1,578
Groaned at 110 Times in 54 Posts
Thanked 1,834 Times in 848 Posts
nigelr has a reputation beyond reputenigelr has a reputation beyond reputenigelr has a reputation beyond reputenigelr has a reputation beyond reputenigelr has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

I don't think he is particularly great, but May is a disaster. With her at the helm then the UK will almost certainly sink without a trace.
Reply With Quote
This user groans at nigelr for this post:
  #9  
Old 06.06.2017, 10:36
Sbrinz's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Murten - Morat
Posts: 11,531
Groaned at 573 Times in 365 Posts
Thanked 11,174 Times in 5,739 Posts
Sbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond reputeSbrinz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

After the EU referendum a year ago, Labour MPs passed a vote of no confidence in Corbyn by 172 votes to 40 following the resignation of around two-thirds of Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet in the Labour party. Well I think Lewibrfc that performance speaks for itself, if all his colleagues don't trust him to win the next election, then how can the public trust him to lead the country? (Yes he won the subsequent vote by 61.8% which is hardly inspiring)

How can anyone that believes in throwing money at a problem be seriously able to lead a country when the stakes are so high, and the financial situation so tight?

Why does JC criticise the Prime Minister after a terrorist attack was swiftly ended? Yes more than 5'500 armed police would be fine, but they wouldn't get to the attack much quicker than 8 minutes would they?

The man is despicable. He never completed his higher education, and other than being an MP he has never held a public office, his career has been entirely in politics, he has a smooth way of telling people what they want to hear, and many believe him.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06.06.2017, 10:42
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: bern
Posts: 114
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 103 Times in 42 Posts
lewibrfc has earned some respectlewibrfc has earned some respect
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

Quote:
View Post
That's what worries me. He's willing to defend his beliefs in Peace but he's not sure sure about defending Peace itself.
Interesting. I've heard others express this sentiment before. Seeing as Corbyn has committed to increasing policing capacity, keeping Trident and allowing the police to 'use any means necessary', I struggle to think up a scenario where we'd be worse off under Corbyn than under May.

I'm still reeling from May's proposed internet-crackdown however, which in my opinion is by far the biggest threat facing the UK near-term (in terms of jobs, security, peace and prosperity).
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06.06.2017, 10:42
nigelr's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Aargau
Posts: 1,578
Groaned at 110 Times in 54 Posts
Thanked 1,834 Times in 848 Posts
nigelr has a reputation beyond reputenigelr has a reputation beyond reputenigelr has a reputation beyond reputenigelr has a reputation beyond reputenigelr has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

Quote:
View Post
Why does JC criticise the Prime Minister after a terrorist attack was swiftly ended? Yes more than 5'500 armed police would be fine, but they wouldn't get to the attack much quicker than 8 minutes would they?
As I understand it, the armed police are spread more thinly. In the big cities you may be right, but outside of the cities the response will be slower. I can't find a link but I believe there are less ARVs on the move than there used to be.

May should be forced out for the continual reduction in police/fire/ambulance numbers since she was home office.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank nigelr for this useful post:
  #12  
Old 06.06.2017, 10:56
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: bern
Posts: 114
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 103 Times in 42 Posts
lewibrfc has earned some respectlewibrfc has earned some respect
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

Quote:
View Post
After the EU referendum a year ago, Labour MPs passed a vote of no confidence in Corbyn by 172 votes to 40 following the resignation of around two-thirds of Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet in the Labour party. Well I think Lewibrfc that performance speaks for itself, if all his colleagues don't trust him to win the next election, then how can the public trust him to lead the country? (Yes he won the subsequent vote by 61.8% which is hardly inspiring)

How can anyone that believes in throwing money at a problem be seriously able to lead a country when the stakes are so high, and the financial situation so tight?

Why does JC criticise the Prime Minister after a terrorist attack was swiftly ended? Yes more than 5'500 armed police would be fine, but they wouldn't get to the attack much quicker than 8 minutes would they?

The man is despicable. He never completed his higher education, and other than being an MP he has never held a public office, his career has been entirely in politics, he has a smooth way of telling people what they want to hear, and many believe him.

Do you mind me asking what this has to do with Corbyn being an inherently deceitful person? (which was my original question to you)

As I understand it, there are thousands of very clever people in the Government and civil service who are responsible for planning and carrying out policy in the most effective way possible - the PM is there to decide *what* is important and *what* we are working towards as a nation, not *how* we achieve it.

When I look at May and Corbyn, it's pretty obvious to me which one I trust more to decide what's right for the country.

(hint: it's the candidate who spent their first two years of working life volunteering in Jamaica, not the one working as a banker straight out of university)
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06.06.2017, 11:00
Dougal's Breakfast's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: GL
Posts: 16,001
Groaned at 1,018 Times in 785 Posts
Thanked 41,374 Times in 12,897 Posts
Dougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond reputeDougal's Breakfast has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

Quote:
View Post
(hint: it's the candidate who spent their first two years of working life volunteering in Jamaica, not the one working as a banker straight out of university)
Funny, I can't stand either potential PM, but one of those screams "rich kid on a gap yah" and the other says "normal kid who needs a job".

Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Dougal's Breakfast for this useful post:
  #14  
Old 06.06.2017, 11:11
Tom1234's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kanton Luzern
Posts: 10,724
Groaned at 280 Times in 223 Posts
Thanked 15,078 Times in 6,122 Posts
Tom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

Quote:
View Post

I'm still reeling from May's proposed internet-crackdown however, which in my opinion is by far the biggest threat facing the UK near-term (in terms of jobs, security, peace and prosperity).
I'm against it too but I really wonder whether we'd such an extensive network of radicalized young muslim men intent on murder if we didn't have YouTube, Facebook and so on?

They're not getting this stuff from the Koran, are they?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06.06.2017, 12:22
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: St Gallen Kanton
Posts: 717
Groaned at 167 Times in 116 Posts
Thanked 1,461 Times in 654 Posts
J2488 has a reputation beyond reputeJ2488 has a reputation beyond reputeJ2488 has a reputation beyond reputeJ2488 has a reputation beyond reputeJ2488 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

If they were youd have a much bigger problem on your hands.


I think the responsibility needs to be at the level of those who enable this phenomena: the tech companies themselves. Facebook should be responsible for what is on its site, for no other reason that they are the medium that publicises it. The same goes for twitter, and any other social network you care to mention.


At the moment, facebook simply says 'not our problem, we're just the middleman'. But when the middleman is crucial and critical to the spread of hate, it is no longer just a middleman and is more an acquiescing partner. With great power comes great responsibliity, to paraphrase Uncle Ben. Facebook has the power, it must now accept the responsibility, or be regulated to the hilt.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 06.06.2017, 13:05
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 3,034
Groaned at 27 Times in 26 Posts
Thanked 3,009 Times in 1,633 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

Quote:
View Post
I don't think he is particularly great, but May is a disaster. With her at the helm then the UK will almost certainly sink without a trace.
I was in touch with a mate in England last week-end and he said basically the same thing. Will GB too have to choose the lesser evil?

When will this system finally be burried? In Switzerland we may not be able to choose the "Bundesrat" but in votes for any other governemental positions (Nationalrat, Ständerat, Kantonsrat, Stadtrat, Gemeinderat ...) we can put the names of any Swiss citizens into the list. They won't get the job (as it's random/personal choice) but it diffuses the result and by diffusing it, it makes it clearer that the people who are officially on the lists are not wanted.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06.06.2017, 13:16
baboon's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Rheintal
Posts: 2,746
Groaned at 86 Times in 75 Posts
Thanked 3,594 Times in 1,746 Posts
baboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond reputebaboon has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

Quote:
View Post
Why does JC criticise the Prime Minister after a terrorist attack was swiftly ended? Yes more than 5'500 armed police would be fine, but they wouldn't get to the attack much quicker than 8 minutes would they?
In this particular case, if the Met had sufficient manpower there would probably have been 2 armed police patrolling Borough Market and responding within seconds so yes, there probably would have been a more immediate response.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06.06.2017, 13:28
Treverus's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SZ
Posts: 9,806
Groaned at 227 Times in 189 Posts
Thanked 17,546 Times in 6,394 Posts
Treverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank Treverus for this useful post:
  #19  
Old 06.06.2017, 14:12
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Küsnacht, Switzerland
Posts: 1,491
Groaned at 56 Times in 52 Posts
Thanked 3,978 Times in 1,818 Posts
Blueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

Quote:
View Post
Why does JC criticise the Prime Minister after a terrorist attack was swiftly ended? Yes more than 5'500 armed police would be fine, but they wouldn't get to the attack much quicker than 8 minutes would they?
He called for her resignation then recanted. I firmly believe the people should be calling for her resignation rather than being asked to vote for her, but Corbyn was wrong to make that call, thereby politicising a successful police operation in horrific circumstances.

Yesterday, it was Labour's election to lose, but he screwed up yet again before Abbott added insult to injury with an incredibly painful interview. There's a trait I hate in people that Corbyn shares with Abbott and Thornberry. All of them roll their eyes into their heads when they're trying to recall facts and figures. It reminds me of sharks rolling their eyes when they attack so that they don't get blood in them.

Quote:
View Post
When I look at May and Corbyn, it's pretty obvious to me which one I trust more to decide what's right for the country.

(hint: it's the candidate who spent their first two years of working life volunteering in Jamaica, not the one working as a banker straight out of university)
Fee fi fo fum, I smell Momentum.

I haven't got enough fingers to count all the close friends and family who have worked as VSOs, and I'll be damned if I'm taking my socks off to prove a point. If May said the sky was blue, I'd check, and I wouldn't trust Corbyn with my purse, nevermind the country. He even told bare faced lies on the debate last week regarding his education.

Quote:
View Post
Funny, I can't stand either potential PM, but one of those screams "rich kid on a gap yah" and the other says "normal kid who needs a job".

I bet Corbyn's favourite song is 'Common People' and May's is 'Look at me, I'm Sandra Dee'. The pair of them are amateur hour at best.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 06.06.2017, 14:40
Treverus's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SZ
Posts: 9,806
Groaned at 227 Times in 189 Posts
Thanked 17,546 Times in 6,394 Posts
Treverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond reputeTreverus has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Corbyn Struts His Stuff!

Quote:
View Post
I bet Corbyn's favourite song is 'Common People' and May's is 'Look at me, I'm Sandra Dee'. The pair of them are amateur hour at best.
Speaking of songs... is this for real or just comedy? If it's satire is it extremly realistic.

Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Another great Jeremy Corbyn idea! Hausamsee International affairs/politics 85 26.06.2017 11:07
Guru - Bhagwan, His Secretary & His Bodyguard scribble Other/general 13 04.05.2010 09:40
Some stuff for sale: kitchen stuff, bubble bath... Elen15 Items for sale 4 16.02.2008 18:04


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 23:07.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0