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Re: Shootings and the explosions in Paris

I wanted to reply to Hausamsee but he quickly deleted his post.

Anyway, allowing IS their "Islamic" state as you proposed, or in other words recognising them, even inviting them to the United Nations for negotiations is one of the dumbest ideas I have read so far on this thread.
Is there a contest going on?
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No they were not :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijack...ber_11_attacks



In any case the first duty of politicians is the security of their own citzens... i sincerely hope that all borders will be shut for the forseeable future.
So one out of the four cases you quoted, the other three (the majority) were all perpetrated by locals.

September 11; now you propose banning tourists - that will be great for the economy

About "all borders will be shut for the foreseeable future." that will be good for the import/export business!!
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No they were not :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijack...ber_11_attacks



In any case the first duty of politicians is the security of their own citzens... i sincerely hope that all borders will be shut for the forseeable future.
" hope that all borders will be shut for the forseeable future."

I hope that does`t mean that won`t be able to go to Blighty for Xmas!
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Old 16.11.2015, 10:08
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Re: Shootings and the explosions in Paris

Maybe we should start profiling?

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That pianist drove 400 miles to play Imagine in front of the Bataclan. That wasn't about this massacre, that was all about him. And the irony of playing Imagine. Lennon paid for a few bombs in his time, when he wasn't volleying Yoko around his mansion.
That pianist was disgusting.

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France did the right thing in retaliation to show that this will not be tolerated.
Bombing Syria was just an expression of resolve. Fine, but it is mainly showmanship. The terrorists are not in Syria, they are in Europe. So here is where we will see if there is true resolve beyond the theatrics.

Actually, France law enforcement has done a great job of foiling terrorist attacks in the past year. This one slipped through. Now they need to adjust their processes. They need to increase surveillance, update wiretap laws, and build surveillance capabilities of encrypted Internet communications.

They really should stop new migrant flows from that region until they inventory everybody, and only then resume migrant intake.
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Re: Shootings and the explosions in Paris

French Interior Minister is calling for the closing of Hate Mosques:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b045bf3defa464

Its about freakin time someone in government said something. The French have a weird way of impressing. They should have done it ages ago, and they really should do this throughout the whole of Europe.
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Maybe we should start profiling?

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I hope not. Profiling doesn't work. We should only rely on statistical theory and random, double blind search criteria in order to find those evil doers.


ex: The best way to thwart airline terrorism is to randomly strip search granny and send the 9 year old girl with braces through the scanner. Thank God for the TSA to keep us safe.


In fact, the next time someone steals your stash, rather than search for people that resemble the suspect's description, you should demand that the police randomly ask 100 people they meet on the street if they did it. That way, no one will have their feelings hurt.
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Re: Shootings and the explosions in Paris

We should do this, we should do that.... we should do everything but examine the root causes of terrorism, because that would be a pinko liberal thing to do

“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it”
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...and what is the root cause exactly?
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We should do this, we should do that.... we should do everything but examine the root causes of terrorism, because that would be a pinko liberal thing to do

“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it”
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Castro, the root cause of terrorism is anger, desperation and a collapse of morality. Frankly, anyone can practice terrorism. Before that happens, "The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them."
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I hope not. Profiling doesn't work. We should only rely on statistical theory and random, double blind search criteria in order to find those evil doers.


ex: The best way to thwart airline terrorism is to randomly strip search granny and send the 9 year old girl with braces through the scanner. Thank God for the TSA to keep us safe.


In fact, the next time someone steals your stash, rather than search for people that resemble the suspect's description, you should demand that the police randomly ask 100 people they meet on the street if they did it. That way, no one will have their feelings hurt.

Well it works for Israel. At least they are smart enough to realise that 90 year old Grandma Susan and little 9 year old Nichole most likely will not blow themselves up. Mohammed on the other hand........

But your right, we can't go around hurting people's feelings now can we?
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...and what is the root cause exactly?
Ignorance.
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Ignorance.
There sure are a lot of ignorant lefties, yet they don't go around massacring people.
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We should do this, we should do that.... we should do everything but examine the root causes of terrorism, because that would be a pinko liberal thing to do

“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it”
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Are you sure that quote comes from Churchill? Apart from that history "repeats itself" at the moment quicker than I feel safe with. ...............Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria.
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We should do this, we should do that.... we should do everything but examine the root causes of terrorism, because that would be a pinko liberal thing to do

“Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it”
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.....but what we should do ..is set up gun posts, a gun safe on every major street with loaded guns in it, locked of course with a passcode entry system only give to civllian members who have been vetted, or off-duty police and army and (of course) mandatory gun training for anyone who would be authorised to be able to use them. No need to issue gun licences or have people walking the streets with guns on them either... ..a perfect way to fight back!
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That pianist was disgusting.



Bombing Syria was just an expression of resolve. Fine, but it is mainly showmanship. The terrorists are not in Syria, they are in Europe. So here is where we will see if there is true resolve beyond the theatrics.
Stop twisting facts!

There are currently far more European terrorists in Syria than Syrian terrorists in all of the EU.

You seem very good at rewriting history in order to bring it in line with your own ideology.
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There sure are a lot of ignorant lefties, yet they don't go around massacring people.

Er... are you from the same planet as the rest of us, Phos?
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Stop twisting facts!

There are currently far more European terrorists in Syria than Syrian terrorists in all of the EU.

You seem very good at rewriting history in order to bring it in line with your own ideology.
The actual map of fighters consists of the following nationalities according to this article: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29052144
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Stop twisting facts!

There are currently far more European terrorists in Syria than Syrian terrorists in all of the EU.

You seem very good at rewriting history in order to bring it in line with your own ideology.

Should we forget who massacred people last Friday? The terrorist in Syria can stay in Syria. The problem in Europe are the terrorists already in Europe.

Numbers don't matter much when only handful were required for such an operation.
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Re: Shootings and the explosions in Paris

The common thread between those who've committed these heinous acts - violence based on fulfillment of the their holy scriptures. Religious duty. They may not represent the views of mainstream, moderate Muslims - but to say that they are basing their ideology and actions on extreme interpretations of the Koran is an apologetic PC joke. They are quite literally carrying out what the Koran says one must do.

The mainstream Muslims are in quite a tight spot. When it comes down to it, denying what is plain-as-day written in the Koran goes against the religion, as this is believed to be not only god's direct word, but the last revelation of god to humanity and an exact copy of the scriptures/tablets that are found in heaven. Condemning those who follow the scriptures is condemning the scriptures and Allah himself. Not an easy thing to do on any level - personal, cultural, and in some cases legal (church and state being one).

EU, should it decide to follow it's own hate speech laws, needs to ban the Koran. Only now that this 'religion of peace' has been tolerated for so long already, and there are so many muslims living in Europe, we'd have a true holy war on our hands. Would the 'moderate' muslims respect the hate laws more than their own hate-filled book? Imagine if we tried to ban the bible!

Again, I'm not for banning books. Just making a point.
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