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and have you noticed that in those ISIS videos of their be-headings, the victims never put up a fight? Also those executed by the Saudis kneel there on the square perfectly still. I assumed these victims were heavily drugged, and didn't know what was happening to them. But terrorists need some level of comprehension: if they were drugged too much, they wouldn't be able to shoot anyone. Maybe they are hypnotised?
Indeed, I saw a report somewhere saying that the victims are drugs before for that exact reason.

I don't think the drug they are using for the victims are the same they are using. Theirs is something that make them feel powerful, clear minded and fearless. Very practical to keep awake and alert.

It doesn't force them to do the killings against their will, it just gives them the push to do it. The willing comes from brainwashing.
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Indeed, I saw a report somewhere saying that the victims are drugs before for that exact reason.
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So the poor victims are 'off their heads' before they lose them.
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Old 18.11.2015, 19:31
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Indeed, I saw a report somewhere saying that the victims are drugs before for that exact reason..
These guys were not drugged apparently. Or at least conscious enough that "“Some martyrs can clearly be seen to say at the moment of their barbarous execution ‘Lord, Jesus Christ!’ "
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These guys were not drugged apparently. Or at least conscious enough that "“Some martyrs can clearly be seen to say at the moment of their barbarous execution ‘Lord, Jesus Christ!’ "
I have a feeling that I would be saying "Jesus Christ!" as well and he doesn't mean anything to me.
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Old 18.11.2015, 21:23
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Re: Shootings and the explosions in Paris

Given there are some clever IT people on here does anybody think the declaration of Anonymous to take on Islamic State will develop into proper cyber warfare? And if so, are anonymous as dangerous to IS as they profoundly state'


Link here: http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/13/...an-online-war/
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Old 18.11.2015, 21:25
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and have you noticed that in those ISIS videos of their be-headings, the victims never put up a fight? Also those executed by the Saudis kneel there on the square perfectly still. I assumed these victims were heavily drugged, and didn't know what was happening to them. But terrorists need some level of comprehension: if they were drugged too much, they wouldn't be able to shoot anyone. Maybe they are hypnotised?
I haven't seen any of the videos but there was an article somewhere recently from somebody who explained this. The victims are put through "practice runs" that they are told are being filmed for publicity purposes but at the end they are not executed. After a few of these dry runs they are then executed for real when they don't expect it. Probably not in all cases but this could well be true for some of them.
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It takes a special kind of stupid to take raw data from twitter as any sort of serious analysis and to draw conclusions from it.

Of course if it was anti-israel data then you'd be talking about how silly it is etc. etc.
So what is the connection between a peer reviewed scientific research about one of the only free channels of communication in the Muslim world and your anti Israel tirade?
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I haven't seen any of the videos but there was an article somewhere recently from somebody who explained this. The victims are put through "practice runs" that they are told are being filmed for publicity purposes but at the end they are not executed. After a few of these dry runs they are then executed for real when they don't expect it. Probably not in all cases but this could well be true for some of them.
Yes, this is also what I have read.
Fake executions are apparently quite normal for hostages in the Near East.
Even those who don't end up being executed often report of various occasions where one was performed.

But hey, with no iPhones and iPads and only religious sh1t on TV (if there's a TV at all) - what is the average hostage-taker going to do all day? Solve Sudokus?

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So what is the connection between a peer reviewed scientific research about one of the only free channels of communication in the Muslim world and your anti Israel tirade?
Which peer reviewed research?
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Old 18.11.2015, 22:11
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Which peer reviewed research?
This one.

The study also showed that 10% of newspaper articles in Arabic are supportive of ISIS.
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I.... I.... I'm just trying to cool down a heated argument.
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This one.

The study also showed that 10% of newspaper articles in Arabic are supportive of ISIS.
A quick read says it was published in voices from the blogs? And the study isn't peer reviewed according to that link...the method is.

I do like how the hyperlink for 'peer-reviewed' just takes you to a blog's homepage.

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POWER COMES OUT OF THE GUN BARRELS & NOW THE BELLIES OF FIGHTER BOMBERS
I'll respond to this again, realizing my other post doesn't read clearly.

Wolli, I posted a link to an article promoting ways to work toward peace. Peaceful ways. And you came back with this statement about power. Power through death and destruction. It comes across as a knee-jerk reaction against peace. (An idea which is touched on in the article - which maybe you read, maybe not)...

Do you not support peace?

Is power more important?

Or do you believe in peace through war?

When will this power trip be satisfied? Will it ever end?

The hamster in a wheel could run a million km, and never move a cm. This is the situation we are in, over and over again. If we want to progress as a society/species, we need to break the cycle of violence and war. Bullets and bombs will never achieve this. The power trip has to stop, or we will forever be our own worst enemies.

The Stonecutter

There was once a stonecutter who was dissatisfied with himself and with his position in life. One day he passed a wealthy merchant's house. Through the open gateway, he saw many fine possessions and important visitors. "How powerful that merchant must be!" thought the stone cutter. He became very envious and wished that he could be like the merchant. To his great surprise, he suddenly became the merchant, enjoying more luxuries and power than he had ever imagined, but envied and detested by those less wealthy than himself. Soon a high official passed by, carried in a sedan chair, accompanied by attendants and escorted by soldiers beating gongs. Everyone, no matter how wealthy, had to bow low before the procession. "How powerful that official is!" he thought. "I wish that I could be a high official!" Then he became the high official, carried everywhere in his embroidered sedan chair, feared and hated by the people all around. It was a hot summer day, so the official felt very uncomfortable in the sticky sedan chair. He looked up at the sun. It shone proudly in the sky, unaffected by his presence. "How powerful the sun is!" he thought. "I wish that I could be the sun!" Then he became the sun, shining fiercely down on everyone, scorching the fields, cursed by the farmers and laborers. But a huge black cloud moved between him and the earth, so that his light could no longer shine on everything below. "How powerful that storm cloud is!" he thought. "I wish that I could be a cloud!" Then he became the cloud, flooding the fields and villages, shouted at by everyone. But soon he found that he was being pushed away by some great force, and realized that it was the wind. "How powerful it is!" he thought. "I wish that I could be the wind!" Then he became the wind, blowing tiles off the roofs of houses, uprooting trees, feared and hated by all below him. But after a while, he ran up against something that would not move, no matter how forcefully he blew against it - a huge, towering rock. "How powerful that rock is!" he thought. "I wish that I could be a rock!" Then he became the rock, more powerful than anything else on earth. But as he stood there, he heard the sound of a hammer pounding a chisel into the hard surface, and felt himself being changed. "What could be more powerful than I, the rock?" he thought. He looked down and saw far below him the figure of a stonecutter.
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Old 18.11.2015, 22:51
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A quick read says it was published in voices from the blogs? And the study isn't peer reviewed according to that link...the method is.

I do like how the hyperlink for 'peer-reviewed' just takes you to a blog's homepage.
The method on which the study is based is peer reviewed. the research group specializes in data analysis (they also analyzed the scottish referndum, for example)

Please answer the question: what does this study has to do with your anti-Israel tirade?
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The method on which the study is based is peer reviewed. the research group specializes in data analysis (they also analyzed the scottish referndum, for example)

Please answer the question: what does this study has to do with your anti-Israel tirade?
Peer reviewed by who? Genuinely interested if someone worthwhile peer reviewed it or they just passed it around the room amongst themselves and nodded their heads.

I'm not anti-israel. I'm just anti-bombing schools and murdering children and stealing land and shitting on international law.
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Re: Shootings and the explosions in Paris

Back on topic I have to ask myself why we are not seeing similar protests from Muslims as happened regarding the publication of the Mohammad cartoons? Thousands of people in countries like Pakistan, Iraq, Turkey, Iran, Indonesia, etc, demonstrated that such publications were objectionable to their religion. Surely these attacks - in which it's quite likely Muslims were also killed - should provoke a similar reaction from all "moderate" Muslims.

I saw on ITV's news tonight a couple of dozen Muslims in Paris singing the French national anthem. Is this the sum total of the response from the majority of Muslims around the world?

I'm afraid this lack of response only tends to confirm in "Western" eyes that moderate Muslims do tacitly support ISIS and their actions. Or do Muslims in Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, etc, see others of their faith who live in the Western world as not being true believers and therefore legitimate targets?
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Peer reviewed by who? Genuinely interested if someone worthwhile peer reviewed it or they just passed it around the room amongst themselves and nodded their heads.

I'm not anti-israel. I'm just anti-bombing schools and murdering children and stealing land and shitting on international law.
You are avoiding the question - the article has nothing to do with Israel, and if you really cared about bombing schools and murdering children you would have mantioned Pakistan, Syria, Yemen and lots of other countries, many of them Muslim which kill many more civilians. You also would'nt send Antisemitic PMs like "ad hominem, what every jew resorts to when they get found out ".
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You are avoiding the question - the article has nothing to do with Israel, and if you really cared about bombing schools and murdering children you would have mantioned Pakistan, Syria, Yemen and lots of other countries, many of them Muslim which kill many more civilians. You also would'nt send Antisemitic PMs like "ad hominem, what every jew resorts to when they get found out ".
I urge you to clean your mouth out with soap. I'd never be caught sending you a PM!

Those countries are all truly awful, I agree. But if I used every awful country to prove my point I'd be here a long time. So I picked one awful one at random, and it just so happened to be Israel and it just so happened to be in reply to your post!

But at least I got you to admit that Israel kills civilians! Baby steps pashy...baby steps...
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I urge you to clean your mouth out with soap. I'd never be caught sending you a PM!

Those countries are all truly awful, I agree. But if I used every awful country to prove my point I'd be here a long time. So I picked one awful one at random, and it just so happened to be Israel and it just so happened to be in reply to your post!

But at least I got you to admit that Israel kills civilians! Baby steps pashy...baby steps...

Lying and threating :

you PMed me with "ad hominem, what every jew resorts to when they get found out "


You simply picked Israel randomly.

Same as Islamist terrorsits randomly choose Jewish schools. Funny - you always pick Israel randomly.

In any case, What's does anycountry have to do with the study of arab opinion about ISIS
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