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Eastern Europeans (starting at the eastern border of the Netherlands) seem to be obsessed with "deeper meanings". It gets a bit tiresome for us straightforward Anglo-Saxon types.
The varying thought process between E.Europeans and Anglo-Saxons can be discovered by exploring the foundational questions in metaphysics and epistemology, the reassessment of ‘local’ intellectual traditions; ethics, moral theory, theology and....

....oh, sorry, didn't mean to bore your Anglo-Saxon brain. I'll try to find a "meme" or something more simple
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The varying thought process between E.Europeans and Anglo-Saxons can be discovered by exploring the foundational questions in metaphysics and epistemology, the reassessment of ‘local’ intellectual traditions; ethics, moral theory, theology and....

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Old 23.11.2015, 13:12
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Re: Shootings and the explosions in Paris

On a lighter note.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34897645

Congrats to the Belgians on their response to the crisis. That's the spirit and why ISIS will never win.
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On a lighter note.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34897645

Congrats to the Belgians on their response to the crisis. That's the spirit and why ISIS will never win.
Congrats to the Belgians? They've locked the city of Brussels down to catch a handful of thugs, costing the working people of the city millions, perhaps billions, of euros in lost income.

Funny how the British, German, Spanish and Italian governments never saw fit to close down entire cities for several days in a row during the dark days of the seventies and eighties, isn't it?

I wonder what changed?
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Congrats to the Belgians? They've locked the city of Brussels down to catch a handful of thugs, costing the working people of the city millions, perhaps billions, of euros in lost income.

Funny how the British, German, Spanish and Italian governments never saw fit to close down entire cities for several days in a row during the dark days of the seventies and eighties, isn't it?

I wonder what changed?

Belgium is a failed state. It is a reason in itself to shut down Shengen. They were given notice by France, and they were compelled to prove they are capable of security actions.
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On a lighter note.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34897645

Congrats to the Belgians on their response to the crisis. That's the spirit and why ISIS will never win.
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Yeah, but. Kittehs.
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Congrats to the Belgians? They've locked the city of Brussels down to catch a handful of thugs, costing the working people of the city millions, perhaps billions, of euros in lost income.

Funny how the British, German, Spanish and Italian governments never saw fit to close down entire cities for several days in a row during the dark days of the seventies and eighties, isn't it?

I wonder what changed?
Read the article. Citizens helping make sure police movements were not posted on social media/net by flooding these with pics of kittens doing their thing. I'd say great British spirit and spunk, but that would probably upset the Belgians.
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Belgium is a failed state. It is a reason in itself to shut down Shengen. They were given notice by France, and they were compelled to prove they are capable of security actions.
No more than France itself then. I wonder what they hope to achieve by literally shutting down the whole city of Bruxelles .... for 3 days in a row.

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No more than France itself then. I wonder what they hope to achieve by literally shutting down the whole city of Bruxelles .... for 3 days in a row.
France has actually done an excellent job of thwarting many terrorist acts that never happened. The big hole here was the planning took place in Belgium. Belgium seems to care less what happens in its own country, has been very lax about monitoring terrorism. It has the highest percentage of Jihadists going to Syria and returning.

So France called Belgium out on this last week. Belgium responded by committing 400 million Euros to the effort, and then shut down the city to look for bad guys. Which is something they were suppose to be vigilant about all this time.

We'll see if they will stop after some level of sybolism, or until they feel they have accomplished what they needed to. One thing for sure, you can't secure Europe's borders with Shengen if only one of its member states neglects its responsibilities... Belgium!
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No more than France itself then. I wonder what they hope to achieve by literally shutting down the whole city of Bruxelles .... for 3 days in a row.

You've got to admire this couple...


http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rel...a46299330a3b1c

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Red shoes? That is pretty ballsy
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No more than France itself then. I wonder what they hope to achieve by literally shutting down the whole city of Bruxelles .... for 3 days in a row.
Speaking of failed states, you have to wonder what the repercussions of this attack has on France. France just eeked by some positive economic growth. Whether or not it was real is another question. But this attack would surely dent France economically. Just lost in tourism alone. France is really in a precarious situation here, and there is a pathway to a failed state if they don't thread carefully.
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No more than France itself then. I wonder what they hope to achieve by literally shutting down the whole city of Bruxelles .... for 3 days in a row.

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http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/rel...a46299330a3b1c

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Red shoes? That is pretty ballsy
Oh, c'mon they are more like terracotta not really red...
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Oh, c'mon they are more like terracotta not really red...
Anyway, they still need the fashion police to guard them
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Re: Shootings and the explosions in Paris

Meantime in an other French city>> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...line/76239788/ << wait a minute ,no terrorists involved
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Speaking of failed states, you have to wonder what the repercussions of this attack has on France. France just eeked by some positive economic growth. Whether or not it was real is another question. But this attack would surely dent France economically. Just lost in tourism alone. France is really in a precarious situation here, and there is a pathway to a failed state if they don't thread carefully.
I'm surprised there hasn't been a serious debate in France on the pros and cons of joining the air strikes on Syria, because lets not kid ourselves, ISIS are unlikely to attack Switzerland, Portugal, Cyprus etc.. Its not as Dan Rather once put it, 'because they hate our freedoms and democracy'

Knowing the French, war is never popular and Holland wasn't the most obvious candidate for a War time President. So unless he can convince the French people that further bombings are going to yield results, he might find himself in the same position as Spanish PM José María Aznar, who dragged Spain into the deeply unpopular war in Iraq and then found himself out of a job immediately after the Madrid train bombings.
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I'm surprised there hasn't been a serious debate in France on the pros and cons of joining the air strikes on Syria, because lets not kid ourselves, ISIS are unlikely to attack Switzerland, Portugal, Cyprus etc.. Its not as Dan Rather once put it, 'because they hate our freedoms and democracy'

Knowing the French, war is never popular and Holland wasn't the most obvious candidate for a War time President. So unless he can convince the French people that further bombings are going to yield results, he might find himself in the same position as Spanish PM José María Aznar, who dragged Spain into the deeply unpopular war in Iraq and then found himself out of a job immediately after the Madrid train bombings.
Well, I find this typical of what happens with leftist heads of states. They go around announcing how they are the party of peace, but inadvertently invite aggression. And then they have to save political face and act like the tough guy. At that point, the results are uglier than they needed to be. Obama is no different in this regard.

In the case of Hollande, I believe he is trying to compensate for years of spinelessness. All of a sudden, he has to react to try to stave off a surge towards Sarkozy and Le Pen. I believe the French attacks on Syria at this point is for political showmanship. His real problems are not in Syria, his problems are in France.
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In the case of Hollande, I believe he is trying to compensate for years of spinelessness. All of a sudden, he has to react to try to stave off a surge towards Sarkozy and Le Pen. I believe the French attacks on Syria at this point is for political showmanship. His real problems are not in Syria, his problems are in France.
These "problems" are older than Hollande's mandate. It is an illusion that Sarkozy can make a difference. I wouldn't even discuss Le Pen..
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Meantime in an other French city>> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...line/76239788/ << wait a minute ,no terrorists involved
I suspect that for many Americans, Nawlins would be the only French city they could name. "Paris -- naw, that's in Texas!"
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