So is there actually a problem with American immigrants in Europe having child brides. Or is this a hypothetic situation?

But you see what I mean? Whether you agree with their positions or not, as their numbers grow it may well be that they begin to swing public opinion in a rather different way (for better or worse).

I assume you're a schoolteacher, what about the whole drama about Muslims not shaking hands with the opposite sex?

Again, I'm not saying that most of them will want to stop shaking hands with the opposite sex, but do you think that most of them would be for or against legislation which enforces it, like what currently exists?

Well if you want to ban Halal (Dabihah) slaughter then you have to ban Jewish Shechita slaughter as well since they use practically the same method.
Banning things that a quarter of the world's population support tends to create other issues?

Being uncomfortable is one thing. If you want to debate certain topics, you cannot avoid people getting uncomfortable. Some of the people who feel uncomfortable will try to shut down the discussion or drown it in various ways. In the extreme it turns into trolling.

But just because some people don't like a certain discussion, or think you shouldn't be having it, that doesn't prevent you from trying to have it. I agree with you that it is interesting to know where ideas come from and what is behind them. Quite often, it is only when you enter that debate and listen rather than condemn everything before you've understood half of it that you can come closer to understanding those issues.

Yeah, it's the same with feminism, with vegetarianism, with whatever.This is where symmetry comes in. Sometimes it's the very same people who get angry when people troll their topics who don't see what is wrong with troling topics that are important to other people.

It often boils down to, its OK when I do it because I'm right and you're wrong.

That is against the law in Europe so no problem.

The topic is Muslims in Europe, may I refer you to this handy list? Diversion 5.

It sounds much harsher then I mean it but in the end it comes down to this:


Our Country, our rules. You are welcome to live by them or to leave if you dont manage to adapt. Especially since their Claims are based on religious believes.
Which should have in my opinion zero influence on legislation.

Perhaps people simply don't like answering rhethorical questions. You have already made your opinion, based on pure speculation and questionable predictions. As such you'll most certainly brush aside anything but an affirmative reply.

You don't even take reality into consideration. Otherwise you'd have looked up the situation in European countries that already are Muslim-dominated ages ago. I think there are three of them.

Yes that would happen. But then it would just reflect the change in switzerlands culture and Society



I think if you ask Teenagers of 15-18 years wheter they should be forced to do anything, you will always just get the answer no. No matter the subject.
The legislation which currently enforces it is the law about equality of men and women. I doubt that they are against that.

you were the one who brought up the topic of child brides in America, so interesting that now I'm the one who created the diversion i was actually replying to.

Pragmatically countries want to protect their economies, introducing rules that would generate, in this example, a lot of expensive meat imports hitting the balance of trade is counter productive.

Bans could also lead to the farce of live animals being exported for ritual slaughter and the meat re-imported which increases the animals suffering.
Google the horse meat trade for a sad example.

See and now we are at a point which will be very important in the future.


"How much wealth and economic security am I willing to sacrifice in order to "feel at home" and being proud of my country"

I'm not saying that they are necessarily against gender equality or that they would suddenly choose not to shake hands with the opposite sex.

What I asked was do you think the majority, not just teenagers, would be for or against such legislation that forced them to shake hands with the opposite sex? Even though such legislation actually goes against the teachings of Islam?

This exactly.

Different countries and societies have different comfort levels on that. Not everybody thinks that being rich is the most noble objective.

Right now we have a situation that the more progressive countries are trying to impress their way on less progressive countries in a sort of colonialism of valuies.

A clumsy compromise has been reached for 88% of ritual slaughter in the UK. The animals are pre-stunned and then the ritual slaughter takes place, so its now mere tokenism.

Hardly since whether it's against the law or not it happens - amongst Muslims in Europe. May I refer you to this handy post.

Your post does not inform us whether these marriages actually took place in Europe or the peoplewho were involved arrived in Europe already married.

Anyway you seem to have answered Kriss Kross's question about child marriages in Europe; seems it is already happening and with the blessing of the authorities

Other than Switzerland, I never heard of any European country voting in any politician or changing the law who offered less wealth and economic security so that is an academic question; in the sense of not of practical relevance or of only theoretical interest.

Merkels Germany has certainly the lowest level of democracy in the EU since the two most momentous decisions the EU has faced (allowing Greece to remain in the EU and the “migrant crisis”) never saw any election or referendum whatsoever nor any parliamentary vote. So much for “progressive”.... meanwhile Orban was decried and yet by aligning with the will of his people and acting in their interests has increased his democratic mandate.

Yes glad that you admit that the law is being subverted in the case of SOME Muslim immigrants and worse with the tacit approval of those paid to uphold that law.

Nothing to admit, I simply accepted your post verbatim?