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Old 15.06.2018, 14:13
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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Rather OT

But there has been a bit of noise in Bern about a teacher who read from the Koran while wearing a niqab.

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/sto...n-vor-13517126
That's batshit crazy.

Just waiting for the next country bumpkin teacher to dress up as an aborigine after spending a summer holiday in Australia.

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Old 15.06.2018, 14:24
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I would suggest, there are more Nazi-minded people in the non-Moslem world than the Moslem terrorists we experience in their.'s
The difference is the Nazi-minded people don't act on their believes
There's lots of nazis, but we can't identify them because they don't act like nazis! You've discovered the holy grail of logic. You can prove or disprove anything with it. For example "there's lots of Purple people, but you can't identify them because they're not Purple"
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Old 15.06.2018, 14:37
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Are you agreeing with this?

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There's lots of nazis, but we can't identify them because they don't act like nazis! You've discovered the holy grail of logic. You can prove or disprove anything with it. For example "there's lots of Purple people, but you can't identify them because they're not Purple"
Yes we can identify them. We just chose to pretend not to.
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Old 15.06.2018, 14:44
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Are you agreeing with this?


Yes we can identify them. We just chose to pretend not to.
So, enlighten me. There are nazis that don't act like nazis but they are identifiable. what are the signs i should look for? a swastika-like aura?
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Old 15.06.2018, 14:49
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Yes we can identify them. We just chose to pretend not to.
No I posted the picture cos it's absurd.

I'm also of the view that Nazism or communists or any other dogma itself is not the issue - it's the continual desire of people to ignore empirical evidence (especially historical) that proves these are all shit ideas. Witness the thread on Marxism recently - was tried in many many countries all resulting in bloodshed , poverty and absurd wealth gaps.
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Old 15.06.2018, 15:02
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

The usual: You want to be enlightened. I'm sorry I can't narrow this subject down to a one-line-headline for you.

However, this is what I said:
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The difference is the Nazi-minded people don't act on their believes (at the moment) because they see no benefit in dying for their believes (no virgins "up there" waiting for them, life within their present social-security-society is not gruesome enough yet).
You claim I said they are not identifiable. (Or maybe you just wanted to make others believe I did).
Language, this misunderstood creation ....

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So, enlighten me. There are nazis that don't act like nazis but they are identifiable. what are the signs i should look for? a swastika-like aura?
Not identifiable. Seriously?

However, I leave you to it once more. Short sentences in bold print are not my way of communicating. And the "so you are saying ..." fashion neither.
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Old 15.06.2018, 15:09
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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Not identifiable. Seriously?
Yes, seriously. How do you identify a nazi that doesn't act like a nazi? your nonsensical claim doesn't magically transform into a sensible one just because you've used an emoji.
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Old 15.06.2018, 15:17
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I'm not really sure why you had to bold it, it doesn't really make your point any stronger. Anyways, no, the horrific acts you listed were not driven by Muslims. However, that's not really the point. You see, the major difference between the culture of so-called Western Society and the Muslim culture is that the "West" tends to self-reflect and search for problems within itself. More often than not it discovers flaws and tries to fix them. By no means always, but generally it does. To pick on one of your examples, WWII; The Germans today are probably the most anti-nazi people on the planet because they understand what the problem was and have solved it. The fringe neo-nazi incidents are so low that they make national news. If they were widespread, they'd be normal and non-events. But they aren't. The Muslim culture on the other hand does not accept any criticism from the outside, on the contrary. There's usually no middle-ground. The reasons for this are deep and historic and not really interesting in this thread.
You quote "The Muslim culture on the other hand does not accept any criticism from the outside" as if it is a fact when you know it is not?

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Criticism strengthens commUnity
Do Muslims Accept Criticism?
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Old 15.06.2018, 15:37
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You quote "The Muslim culture on the other hand does not accept any criticism from the outside" as if it is a fact when you know it is not?
Criticism? What criticism?
http://dur-duweb.newscyclecloud.com/...-150119623.jpg

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This attack comes after a report last year found Muslim women “bore the brunt” of rising Islamophobia in the UK.


'Racist' man films himself spraying Muslim woman with stain remover


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8399606.html

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You quote "The Muslim culture on the other hand does not accept any criticism from the outside" as if it is a fact when you know it is not?

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Criticism strengthens commUnity
Do Muslims Accept Criticism?
Dear Christians who are rightfully upset about your holy book being distorted to justify crimes against humanity. We feel you.
— Muslims #Bible


Hyper-racist and fascist tendencies, with Nazi sympathies and all. Now marching in European cities by the tens of thousands.

Make no mistake - they're willing/plotting a Muslim Holocaust.



https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...P=share_btn_tw

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Old 16.06.2018, 10:16
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Europeans must learn to treat Muslims with the same level of respect that Muslims offer to non-Muslims in their countries.
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Old 16.06.2018, 11:37
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Europeans must learn to treat Muslims with the same level of respect that Muslims offer to non-Muslims in their countries.
My favorite practical joke is whenever in Saudi to ask even moderate people I know "excuse me, where is the closest Church, I want to pray..." The look on their faces...
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Old 16.06.2018, 13:06
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Generalizations just suck.

Muslims are as much of their heritage as Catholics are. I can imagine if I went to Tulamore in Ireland, our conversations would be mind-boggling to a passive Catholic.

And then we have the extremists that don't fit the bill anywhere. They are fired by anger and revenge, and with their words and actions, misportray the religion they revere.
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Old 16.06.2018, 13:17
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My favorite practical joke is whenever in Saudi to ask even moderate people I know "excuse me, where is the closest Church, I want to pray..." The look on their faces...
To be fair, ask the same question in many other Muslim countries and the reply will be.. what denomination?
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To be fair, ask the same question in many other Muslim countries and the reply will be.. what denomination?
And atheists?
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Old 16.06.2018, 13:27
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I can imagine if I went to Tulamore in Ireland, our conversations would be mind-boggling to a passive Catholic.
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Speaking of Irish Catholics - like, is there any other kind? Joking. A very funny (and self-deprecating at that) lot. A good few years ago I was visiting Dublin. I was thinking to buy some clothes from one of those fancy shops in the city centre. Picked something and asked a shop assistant where the fitting room was. He showed me around and luckily was kind enough to walk me there because I didn't pay attention to which sector I went, and was about to enter the male separation or room. The guy just theatrically "blocked" the entrance and made the cross sign "It's not for the ladies here" (in the "go away temptation" sort of way)...we both laughed of course. I associate Irish Catholicism with that hilarious bloke ever since tbh.
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Old 16.06.2018, 14:42
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

I was in a sauna in Galway filled with a few local guys. I was naked but was wearing a towel for covering. The guys couldn't believe I had no swimsuit under the towel. It was like a porno scene come to life. I left soon after the comments became uncomfortably "hot".
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Old 16.06.2018, 15:11
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Generalizations just suck.

Muslims are as much of their heritage as Catholics are. I can imagine if I went to Tulamore in Ireland, our conversations would be mind-boggling to a passive Catholic.
Huh ?? What's so special about Tullamore apart from being famous for sausages and whisky ??
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Old 16.06.2018, 15:13
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Speaking of Irish Catholics - like, is there any other kind? Joking.
I know you're joking but most of the most nationalistic Irish ever are proud Protestant people - even in my small home town there is both a Protestant school and Church of Ireland chapel.
EDIT: The lads who cut silage for my Dad happen to be Church of Ireland - great decent folks.
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And atheists?
Why would an atheist be looking for a church?
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