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25.11.2015, 21:46
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | MEMRI does us all a service with its translations. Or do you think information should be restricted? | | | | | I would point you to this article by Brian Whitaker | Quote: |  | | | what makes me uneasy is that the stories selected by Memri for translation follow a familiar pattern: either they reflect badly on the character of Arabs or they in some way further the political agenda of Israel. I am not alone in this unease.
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"Memri's intent is to find the worst possible quotes from the Muslim world and disseminate them as widely as possible."
.. MEMRI on Sourcewatch | | | | | Again well done to them, it was founded by a former Israeli Military Intelligence Officer so I would expect nothing less than a sophisticated propaganda machine that misrepresents and distorts information for its own ends. Hell, if the Saudis were smart enough they would be doing the same hatchet job on Israel's news media.
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25.11.2015, 21:52
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | if the Saudis were smart enough they would be doing the same hatchet job on Israel's news media. | | | | | They can't get there. Each time they set off, the planet rotates and they never make it.
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25.11.2015, 22:32
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | I would point you to this article by Brian Whitaker
Again well done to them, it was founded by a former Israeli Military Intelligence Officer so I would expect nothing less than a sophisticated propaganda machine that misrepresents and distorts information for its own ends. Hell, if the Saudis were smart enough they would be doing the same hatchet job on Israel's news media. | | | | | 1. "if the Saudis were smart enough they would be doing the same" - Saudis,being non-smart, need your advice on how to manage their affairs. silly Saudis,not listening to your wisdom.
2. Mr. Whitaker has a site about the arab world, Al Bab, which interstingly enough can't find any misreperensations or disinformation in Memri.
There is no need to distort information, lies are easier and get enough traction in the Arab/Muslim world (Mossad trained sharks to attack tourists in Sinai, Israel will demolish the mosques in Temple mount, Mossad is behind 9/11, Zionists stole my shoes...)
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25.11.2015, 22:35
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | They can't get there. Each time they set off, the planet rotates and they never make it. | | | | | When I read this; the Earth moved for me too | This user would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
28.11.2015, 11:04
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)
Seems there are other religions with extremist nutters, no surprise!
Three people have been killed after a gunman armed with a rifle stormed an abortion clinic in Colorado Springs and opened fire before an hours-long standoff with police ended when he surrendered.
No official statement yet about why he did this so it is my supposition!
I hope all the Christians here will issue formal apologies like they have requested Muslims do?
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28.11.2015, 11:07
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Seems there are other religions with extremist nutters, no surprise!
Three people have been killed after a gunman armed with a rifle stormed an abortion clinic in Colorado Springs and opened fire before an hours-long standoff with police ended when he surrendered.
No official statement yet about why he did this so it is my supposition!
I hope all the Christians here will issue formal apologies like they have requested Muslims do? | | | | | Would it really kill you to provide a source for a news story? http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/28...ed-parenthood/
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"We don't have any information on this individual's mentality, or his ideas or ideology," Buckley said."
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28.11.2015, 11:15
| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | "We don't have any information on this individual's mentality, or his ideas or ideology," Buckley said." | | | | | That dickhead in the cafe in Australia turned out to be more nutter than mujahid. That didn't stop everyone leaping to conclusions before all the facts were known, though, did it?
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28.11.2015, 11:18
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)
No panic....
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28.11.2015, 11:54
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | About "Would it really kill you to provide a source for a news story? " Well it was in every newspaper I looked at this morning so it seemed pointless!
About " We don't have any information on this individual's mentality, or his ideas or ideology," Buckley said" I did write "No official statement yet about why he did this so it is my supposition!" So was my post not clear?
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29.11.2015, 21:44
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)
There were times when moderate Muslims were very cool.
In 1958, the president of Egypt, the great Nasser is speaking in front of an audience regarding his latest meeting with the Muslim Brotherhood (the mother of all terrorist organizations)
The head of Muslim Brotherhood demanded from Nasser to make a law that every woman in Egypt is forced to wear a hijab.
-"Make him wear one!" - somebody yells from the audience. Than everybody laughs like crazy.
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29.11.2015, 21:55
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)
Ahem. I know they don't have modern ideas but they know how the internet works, right? http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0TE2G420151125 | 
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)
Nasser a moderate ?
Nasser was a charismatic dictator who knew (like Mubarak, btw) that the MB were a very big threat to his rule. When people were ecstatic about the "Arab spring" in 2011 it was worse than stupid, it was naive.
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29.11.2015, 21:58
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: |  | | | That dickhead in the cafe in Australia turned out to be more nutter than mujahid. That didn't stop everyone leaping to conclusions before all the facts were known, though, did it? | | | | | Is there a difference? A nutter tells a story about why he does things and suddenly he has an ideology?
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29.11.2015, 22:23
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Nasser a moderate ?
Nasser was a charismatic dictator who knew (like Mubarak, btw) that the MB were a very big threat to his rule. When people were ecstatic about the "Arab spring" in 2011 it was worse than stupid, it was naive. | | | | | Damned by faint praise. Not many Arab leaders today would have resigned after a military defeat, as he did in 1967.
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29.11.2015, 22:25
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Damned by faint praise. Not many Arab leaders today would have resigned after a military defeat, as he did in 1967. | | | | | As it seems not many Arab leaders would stand against radical jihadist today, some even buy their oil and shoot the planes that bomb them!
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29.11.2015, 22:27
| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | As it seems not many Arab leaders would stand against radical jihadist today, some even buy their oil and shoot the planes that bomb them! | | | | | I'm pretty sure that Mr Erdogan isn't an Arab. | 
29.11.2015, 22:29
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: |  | | | I'm pretty sure that Mr Erdogan isn't an Arab.  | | | | | And he doesn't seem European neither, not by a long shot judging his actions
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29.11.2015, 22:30
| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | And he doesn't seem European neither | | | | | Well, of course not. His family come from Asia Minor.
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29.11.2015, 22:31
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | And he doesn't seem European neither, not by a long shot judging his actions | | | | | I've heard he's Turkish. And what do actions have to do with provenance? Have you seen how some of these Eastern Europeans act? Animals, some of them.
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