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Old 27.06.2018, 10:01
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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My dear Pashosh, if somebody lies extensively about their background and makes a fortune milking the right-wing lecture circuit then I think they rather discredit themselves.

See also Majid Nawaaz
And now the Southern Poverty Law Center admit they defamed Majid Nawaz and pay him $3.375m in damages

What's that you were saying about discrediting themselves ??
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WTF has this to with Muslims?

Enjoy your month off.
Trump's 'Muslim Ban' is already in effect
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Old 27.06.2018, 17:42
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Trump's 'Muslim Ban' is already in effect
I still fail to see what's so glorious about that ban. If they have security concerns they should find better ways to do background check-ups not impose restrictions on entire groups. It's absurd and it affects real people in real life. Nothing to giggle about.
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Old 27.06.2018, 18:05
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I still fail to see what's so glorious about that ban. If they have security concerns they should find better ways to do background check-ups not impose restrictions on entire groups. It's absurd and it affects real people in real life. Nothing to giggle about.
... and, as befits a bully like Trump, it picks on small countries unable to retaliate or defend themselves in any meaningful way. Yemen? 98% of Americans couldn't even place the country within 500 km on a world map. Syria, racked by war and absorbed in its own problems? Somalia -- not even a functioning country!

But Saudi Arabia, the largest exporter of terrorism to the United States, is also soaked in oil and exceedingly wealthy, and a home away from home in the Middle East for many American companies. No ban for the Saudis!
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Old 27.06.2018, 18:40
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I still fail to see what's so glorious about that ban. If they have security concerns they should find better ways to do background check-ups not impose restrictions on entire groups. It's absurd and it affects real people in real life. Nothing to giggle about.
And the number of people killed in the US by Muslim terrorists is a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of the drug overdose deaths.

According to the National Center for Health Statistics
In 2016, there were more than 63,600 drug overdose deaths in the United States.
In 2016, the age-adjusted rate of drug overdose deaths in the United States was more than three times the rate in 1999.

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It is all about politics and sadly nothing about trying to significantly reduce the number of deaths of US citizens.
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Old 27.06.2018, 20:43
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And the number of people killed in the US by Muslim terrorists is a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of the drug overdose deaths.

According to the National Center for Health Statistics
In 2016, there were more than 63,600 drug overdose deaths in the United States.
In 2016, the age-adjusted rate of drug overdose deaths in the United States was more than three times the rate in 1999.

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It is all about politics and sadly nothing about trying to significantly reduce the number of deaths of US citizens.
Yeah, I get your point but this is yet another issue, true, which is not exactly...related to that ban. Let's not bring the discussion in that area. It's better to debate it more logically or practically if you want. There are no benefits in isolating these countries.
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Old 27.06.2018, 20:56
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I still fail to see what's so glorious about that ban. If they have security concerns they should find better ways to do background check-ups not impose restrictions on entire groups. It's absurd and it affects real people in real life. Nothing to giggle about.
Infantile and bigoted mindsets and its not only Trump who is like that.
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Old 27.06.2018, 23:58
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

It's incredible how lefties are dishonest or just plain retard.

Indonesia, biggest Muslim country in the word (228 Million), banned? NO!
India , third largest Muslim population (189 Million), banned? NO!
Bangladesh, forth largest (150M), banned? NO!
Egypt, filth largest (87M), not banned either!

Those countries in the ban list had been signaled as high risk of sending terrorists by the CIA DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION!

So stop saying it's a Mulsim ban!

Seriously, you guys are making Trump look smarter than he really is!
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Old 28.06.2018, 09:27
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It's incredible how lefties are dishonest or just plain retard.

Capo dear....I, for one, am a long way from being a "leftie" (never was, unless you want to label me like that for living my first 8 or 9 years of life under a communist regime, but yeah, I know I'll be a "commie" for eternity according to some folks). People can form their own opinions you know. I don't need any party guru or any party really, to tell me what to think, how to think, which conclusions to draw from my observations. Insulting people with epithetes like that is not going to intimidate anyone. I'm just vaguely amused, not even vaguely irritated.
In all fairness, this happens when you're reaching a conclusion that is not liked by the "lefties" either - instantly called "alt-right" etc. Please, let's stop playing this silly game. Many people are capable of thinking for themselves.
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Old 28.06.2018, 10:19
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It's incredible how lefties are dishonest or just plain retard.

Indonesia, biggest Muslim country in the word (228 Million), banned? NO!
India , third largest Muslim population (189 Million), banned? NO!
Bangladesh, forth largest (150M), banned? NO!
Egypt, filth largest (87M), not banned either!

Those countries in the ban list had been signaled as high risk of sending terrorists by the CIA DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION!

So stop saying it's a Mulsim ban!

Seriously, you guys are making Trump look smarter than he really is!
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Those countries in the ban list had been signaled as high risk of sending terrorists by the CIA DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION!
So Obama policies should be followed by Trump, how does that make him smart?
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Old 01.07.2018, 17:45
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I still fail to see what's so glorious about that ban. If they have security concerns they should find better ways to do background check-ups not impose restrictions on entire groups. It's absurd and it affects real people in real life. Nothing to giggle about.
Effectively impossible when migrants do everything possible to hinder such attempts.
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Seven passengers - including two children - on the inaugural Ethiopian Airlines flight through Dublin claimed asylum at the airport’s immigration gates.

A Garda spokeswoman this morning confirmed that it was five adults and two children that claimed asylum.

“We are working with Ethiopian Airlines to ensure proper processes are in place for people coming into the country,” she said.

The new service from Addis Ababa stops in Dublin en route to Los Angeles and the maiden flight took place on Saturday.

It is understood that the passengers disembarked and made their way to Dublin Airport’s immigration gates where they claimed asylum.

They reportedly arrived at the desk without ID or travel documentation.

A spokeswoman for Ethiopian Airlines this morning insisted that all passengers on the flight had full legal documents when they boarded in Addis Ababa but said that the airline does not comment on individual cases.

“Ethiopian Airlines has been operating for over 40 years in Europe and Dublin is its 11th City.

We only carry passengers with full legal documents and appropriate visas. We also carry out extra checks when in doubt and take guidance from appropriate immigration teams of the destination country we operate to, if needed,” she said.
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Old 01.07.2018, 23:26
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

The asylum seekers sought asylum in the first country they landed in.
Seems to me they behaved correctly, what is the problem?
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Old 01.07.2018, 23:33
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The asylum seekers sought asylum in the first country they landed in.
Seems to me they behaved correctly, what is the problem?
Lol, you are asking Parnell what problem he has with anyone who tries to claim Asylum or is a refugee from a developing/third world country.
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Old 01.07.2018, 23:40
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The asylum seekers sought asylum in the first country they landed in.
Seems to me they behaved correctly, what is the problem?
How about flushing their credentials down the toilets. Because that's where I expect they went. Very correct behaviour.

Should be easy enough to work out who they are though, assuming their passports were checked before they boarded. Everyone's listed on everything these days so match up who boarded and who got off with the paperwork and presto, there are the missing names and nationalities.
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Old 02.07.2018, 00:25
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The asylum seekers sought asylum in the first country they landed in.
Seems to me they behaved correctly, what is the problem?
They were on the very FIRST flight of Ethiopian airlines from Addis Ababa to Miami - stopping in Dublin - they had extensive security checks before they boarded the plane - which they passed. You can imagine how much such a flight would have cost.
Then they deliberately destroyed their identifying documents before claiming asylum.

Naturally enough you would consider the above to be correct - which explains why I would like to see folks like yourself pay directly for the policies you espouse. In Tobi's case it doesn't surprise me much - he is already on record here as defending the violent actions of migrants - they appear to have carte blanche to do whatever they wish but only in the lands of the oppressors...
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They were on the very FIRST flight of Ethiopian airlines from Addis Ababa to Miami - stopping in Dublin -
...3 years ago!!! The publish date on the link is June 26 2015 11:57 AM. You did some digging to find that one.

They're likely still in a Direct Provision centre, but at least they may be eligible to work now.

From June 2015 - http://www.thejournal.ie/direct-prov...90248-Jun2015/

From June 2018 - http://www.thejournal.ie/asylum-seek...95315-Jun2018/

From June 2018 - https://www.irishtimes.com/news/soci...oses-1.3533782
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In Tobi's case it doesn't surprise me much - he is already on record here as defending the violent actions of migrants - they appear to have carte blanche to do whatever they wish but only in the lands of the oppressors...
Pray tell Parnell, where I condone any violence, apart from myself thumping alt-right neo-Nazi fascists should the need arise.

Bell...end... Ding dong.
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They were on the very FIRST flight of Ethiopian airlines from Addis Ababa to Miami - stopping in Dublin - they had extensive security checks before they boarded the plane - which they passed. You can imagine how much such a flight would have cost.
Then they deliberately destroyed their identifying documents before claiming asylum.
Yes, it can happen. If their cases are found to meet all the criteria for political asylum or whatever, why not. If not, they'll be kicked out. This is not a reason to stop people from certain areas to travel. There will always be cases like that.
The more you isolate nations or countries, the more problems in the future.*

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Pray tell Parnell, where I condone any violence, apart from myself thumping alt-right neo-Nazi fascists should the need arise.
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Be careful not to become a neo-fascist of another flavour in the process, mate. You seem inclined.

Do you remember that Phos guy who was totally pro-Trump and pro-only he knows what, in short pro-something and against poor people, basically...? He saw leftist extremists everywhere. I see there's a similar trend for the other end of the political spectrum. Don't be that guy.

*with the amendment that indeed, there's a lot of naivety in the Western world. It's naivety that goes hand in hand with racism, they think so low of certain places they would believe anything, any story. The knowledge of certain cultures is extremely limited and biased. So in a way I see your point too.

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Pray tell Parnell, where I condone any violence, apart from myself thumping alt-right neo-Nazi fascists should the need arise.

Bell...end... Ding dong.
Seeing as you accuse anyone and everyone who doesn't share your world views of being "fascist" (case in point), I guess that must mean you're happy with quite a lot of thumping.
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Old 02.07.2018, 09:06
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Seeing as you accuse anyone and everyone who doesn't share your world views of being "fascist" (case in point), I guess that must mean you're happy with quite a lot of thumping.
You really have a problem don't you?

I accuse people here of having a lot of prejudices and being bigoted. I have no idea if you are holocaust deniers with shrines to Hitler and Swastica tattoos. But a lot of people here are in many ways verbally supporting a lot of stuff espoused by the "alt-right" and neo-Nazis. That has nothing to do with being conservative. I am liberal, but I am not a Socialist, I am not a Communist and I am not an Antifasch. However I would be more inclined to support the Antifasch when push came to shove in a Europe where tolerance and hate seems to be spreading.

Yes I think its OK to hate people who feel its OK to hate people on the premise of their race, religion or whatever. That makes me morally superior to you.
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