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29.07.2018, 12:30
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: |  | | | Well you guys fell hook, line and sinker. Heavy Saturday night I guess.
It isn't nice to group everyone together for the actions of a few, whether they be Aussie, Sudanese or Martian, so please refrain in future. | | | | | Lol, retreats into corner when confronted with his own hypocrisy, trys to explain it away as ' just making sure you guys were paying attention..  ' | The following 4 users would like to thank pilatus1 for this useful post: | | 
29.07.2018, 12:32
| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Lol, retreats into corner when confronted with his own hypocrisy, trys to explain it away as ' just making sure you guys were paying attention.. '  | | | | | And still you don't see yourself reflected back in the mirror, despite being exposed. No hope with some people.
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29.07.2018, 13:02
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Lol, retreats into corner when confronted with his own hypocrisy, trys to explain it away as ' just making sure you guys were paying attention.. '  | | | | | This is why leftists are much better off just screaming 'racist' whilst ignoring their own blatant hypocrisy and double standards.
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29.07.2018, 13:02
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | What a wanker.
Must be Scottish  | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Play the ball, not the man. It's just a lazy technique to dismiss arguments. | | | | | No further comment required.
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29.07.2018, 13:12
| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | No further comment required. | | | | | Context is everything. KK was clearly joking about Scots but certain others haven't yet realised I was doing the same about Australians to make a point. Well, they have realised, but won't admit it, as it makes them look bad. Oh well.
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29.07.2018, 13:16
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | You do understand the difference between referring and authoring ... whoops ... forgot it was marton... | | | | | But there is nothing in that reference that links Nazism with Facism | Quote: | |  | | | Nevermind - I do like to help out so here you are - from Wiki | | | | | Aaahh, Wikipedia that fount of scholastic knowledg | Quote: | |  | | | Your definition "from the web" (where is your link) is laughable as the first part of it is indistinguishable from communism. | | | | | Why laughable? What are the similarities between fascism and communism? | 
29.07.2018, 13:28
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | How is it that you feel justified in stereotyping a whole country and it's people? You automatically assume that anyone from Australia is predisposed to be an intolerant racist?
I'm not on the right, or trying to point out what you ' should be offended by'- I'm just a guy trying to make sense of this world, calling you out for being a blatant hypocrite | | | | | He could be a yam-yam or discovered Jesus a few years ago, or something. Cut him some slack, tough Saturday nights.
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29.07.2018, 14:00
| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | He could be a yam-yam or discovered Jesus a few years ago, or something. Cut him some slack, tough Saturday nights. | | | | | Haha, classifying all Midlanders as the same now? Awful business!
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29.07.2018, 14:06
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | A national stereotype is not an argument. | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | This is why leftists are much better off just screaming 'racist' whilst ignoring their own blatant hypocrisy and double standards. | | | | | Neither is a political stereotype an argument | 
29.07.2018, 14:17
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Neither is a political stereotype an argument  | | | | | I never said it was - it was simply some sage advice for our hypocritical colleagues. | Quote: | |  | | | How is it that you feel justified in stereotyping a whole country and it's people? | | | | | Its known as a 'double standard', we were discussing it earlier before StirB decided to entertain us a sterling example.
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29.07.2018, 14:21
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: |  | | | Haha, classifying all Midlanders as the same now? Awful business! | | | | | Nope, just giving you the taste of your own medicine.
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29.07.2018, 14:26
| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Nope, just giving you the taste of your own medicine. | | | | | Sigh. Sometimes I think we talk different languages.
Wittgenstein posited that if a lion could speak our language, we wouldn't understand him. It seems discourse has devolved so far that now humans with different ideas have as much trouble understanding each other as a lion.
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29.07.2018, 14:45
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | I never said it was - it was simply some sage advice for our hypocritical colleagues. | | | | | Now who is backtracking
Meanwhile my second attempt during the last 40 posts to drag us back to the topic | Quote: |  | | | In Western Europe, familiarity with Muslims is linked to positive views of Muslims and Islam | | | | | Pew Research here.
One question asked non-Muslim Western Europeans if they agree or disagree with the statement “In their hearts, Muslims want to impose their religious law on everyone else in the country.” In Switzerland – which has a relatively large Muslim population (about 6% of the total population) – those who say they personally know a Muslim are 37 percentage points more likely than those who do not to disagree with this statement.
More than eight-in-ten (85%) of those who say they know a Muslim disagree with the statement
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29.07.2018, 15:08
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Ah a link to a site behind a paywall and with no relevant comment to help us to determine if it is worth to pay for this view.
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29.07.2018, 15:26
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Ah a link to a site behind a paywall and with no relevant comment to help us to determine if it is worth to pay for this view.
A really useful post  | | | | | Click on the ' browse for free' button- no paywall there. | 
29.07.2018, 15:44
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Click on the ' browse for free' button- no paywall there.  | | | | | Ah, the good old ' browse for free' button | 
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Pew Research here.
One question asked non-Muslim Western Europeans if they agree or disagree with the statement “In their hearts, Muslims want to impose their religious law on everyone else in the country.” In Switzerland – which has a relatively large Muslim population (about 6% of the total population) – those who say they personally know a Muslim are 37 percentage points more likely than those who do not to disagree with this statement.
More than eight-in-ten (85%) of those who say they know a Muslim disagree with the statement | | | | | Lol.
' However, knowing something about Islam – as opposed to personally knowing a Muslim – is less associated with these positive feelings.'
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29.07.2018, 15:50
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Lol.
'However, knowing something about Islam – as opposed to personally knowing a Muslim – is less associated with these positive feelings.' | | | | | Exactly, thank you for identifying this key point.
People who "believe" they know something about Islam – as opposed to personally knowing a Muslim - often have strange and false ideas about Islam which are usually corrected when actually talking to a Muslim.
This point is often demonstrated here. | The following 2 users would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | ?
That's what I was offered, (browse free) and how I read the article. I don't have a subscription.
Maybe some algorithm has identified your personality type as more likely to pay, whereas for me they are happy enough to be able to expose me to the ads and have me consent to cookies? I don't know how it all works...
Edit: did you try the 'more offers' button?
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Exactly, thank you for identifying this key point.
People who "believe" they know something about Islam – as opposed to personally knowing a Muslim - often have strange and false ideas about Islam which are usually corrected when actually talking to a Muslim. | | | | | Yes like Sam Harris... who studied it intensely... here he is with Ben Affleck | The following 2 users would like to thank parnell for this useful post: | |
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