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31.07.2018, 15:38
| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | First of all, YOU FOR CALLING ME A FASCIST! I have people in my family who suffered the tragedy of fascism and I don't accept a fag like you calling me like that! YOU!
Second, racism is related to RACE, not religion! I warmly welcome Arabic Christians who are seeking refuge in Europe.
Third, I dated a "MUSLIM" girl: she is from Iran and in her national ID it's written "RELIGION DENOMINATION: MUSLIM". She is atheist, but because of the Islamic regime she have no choice! | | | | | First of all: Obviously none of your family suffered from sexual discrimination. Lucky you!
Second: You dated an athiest mate, not a Muslim.
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31.07.2018, 15:39
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | But neutral Switzerland has a higher percentile of muslims than the warmongering UK, so what is your point exactly? | | | | | Completely different! Muslims in CH are mostly Balkans who are well known to be moderate.
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31.07.2018, 16:05
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Lol at being lectured about immigration in my own country by a bloody foreigner.
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31.07.2018, 16:23
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: |  | | | Lol at being lectured about immigration in my own country by a bloody foreigner. | | | | | Isn't that what EF is all about?
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31.07.2018, 16:29
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Spoken by someone who has obviously never been to Canada! | | | | | I've been to Canada. Why do you assume that I have not?  And if I had/hadn't, what affect would it have on this conversation anyway? | Quote: | |  | | | But neutral Switzerland has a higher percentile of muslims than the warmongering UK, so what is your point exactly? | | | | | Switzerland's security situation is like the rest of EU countries that have taken in alot of Muslim "refugees", which means a large part of the security services is spent monitoring them for radicalization and preventing terror attacks. https://www.vbs.admin.ch/en/current/...tml/70611.html
If we have had less incidents/attacks than other EU countries, it could mean that Swiss security is doing a good job. Or that most Muslims have come from the Balkans and are more integrated into EU way of life already. Or it could mean Switzerland has a better system for integration and repatriation.
....or it can mean that they just hang out and plan here, but don't blow anything/anyone here up: | Quote: |  | | | Switzerland has been viewed by extremists as a place for planning, funding, and logistical support for terrorist operations, but not as a target for attacks. | | | | | https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentRe...aspx?cid=24322 | The following 2 users would like to thank esto for this useful post: | | 
31.07.2018, 16:46
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | I dated a "MUSLIM" girl: she is from Iran and in her national ID it's written "RELIGION DENOMINATION: MUSLIM". | | | | | You're such an infidel | 
31.07.2018, 17:10
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | First of all, YOU FOR CALLING ME A FASCIST! I have people in my family who suffered the tragedy of fascism and I don't accept a fag like you calling me like that! YOU!
Second, racism is related to RACE, not religion! I warmly welcome Arabic Christians who are seeking refuge in Europe.
Third, I dated a "MUSLIM" girl: she is from Iran and in her national ID it's written "RELIGION DENOMINATION: MUSLIM". She is atheist, but because of the Islamic regime she have no choice! | | | | | Um  thanks for the insight, charming language! the last paragraph of my comment was aimed at Parnell, the fascist bit, but if you read it youll see I was asking him a question! I merely called you a racist, quite right you are not racist but xenophobic and by the sounds of it homophobic!
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31.07.2018, 17:13
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | I've been to Canada. Why do you assume that I have not? And if I had/hadn't, what affect would it have on this conversation anyway?
Switzerland's security situation is like the rest of EU countries that have taken in alot of Muslim "refugees", which means a large part of the security services is spent monitoring them for radicalization and preventing terror attacks. https://www.vbs.admin.ch/en/current/...tml/70611.html
If we have had less incidents/attacks than other EU countries, it could mean that Swiss security is doing a good job. Or that most Muslims have come from the Balkans and are more integrated into EU way of life already. Or it could mean Switzerland has a better system for integration and repatriation.
....or it can mean that they just hang out and plan here, but don't blow anything/anyone here up: https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentRe...aspx?cid=24322 | | | | | Or just that there are not as many Muslimaniacs as the right wing media and government military and intelligence propaganda teams would like us to believe.
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31.07.2018, 17:19
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Or just that there are not as many Muslimaniacs as the right wing media and government military and intelligence propaganda teams would like us to believe. | | | | | ...or maybe the police are correct and are actually doing a good job? ...or should we hand over the State policing to a more credible authority, like ANTIFA or a NGO? | 
31.07.2018, 17:26
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Most of them are Balkan Muslims. | | | | | And the thread title is? I don't see the word Balkan?
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31.07.2018, 17:27
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Completely different! Muslims in CH are mostly Balkans who are well known to be moderate. | | | | | Well done for ignoring the simple fact that they are muslims, refer to the thread title and try again.
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31.07.2018, 17:28
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31.07.2018, 17:38
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | And the thread title is? I don't see the word Balkan? | | | | | If you read the entire discussion I made the same point as you are trying to do right now. In that context, religious fanaticism was associated by other user with the areas from which most Muslims are currently coming - Africa or Asia. I just can't deny he doesn't make any sense.
I don't think people are willing to debate here. Neither the "right", nor the "left". Which is exactly why EU cannot have a common immigration policy for example. UK has gotten itself a fabulous Brexit and if you payed attention, this issue was also part of the problem. Germany was seen as a dictator.
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31.07.2018, 17:56
| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | If you read the entire discussion I made the same point as you are trying to do right now. In that context, religious fanaticism was associated by other user with the areas from which most Muslims are currently coming - Africa or Asia. I just can't deny he doesn't make any sense.
I don't think people are willing to debate here. Neither the "right", nor the "left". Which is exactly why EU cannot have a common immigration policy for example. UK has gotten itself a fabulous Brexit and if you payed attention, this issue was also part of the problem. Germany was seen as a dictator. | | | | | Yup, we can now exclude all majority Muslim countries in the EU from coming across to the UK. Oh.
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31.07.2018, 18:01
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | If you read the entire discussion I made the same point as you are trying to do right now. In that context, religious fanaticism was associated by other user with the areas from which most Muslims are currently coming - Africa or Asia. I just can't deny he doesn't make any sense.
I don't think people are willing to debate here. Neither the "right", nor the "left". Which is exactly why EU cannot have a common immigration policy for example. UK has gotten itself a fabulous Brexit and if you payed attention, this issue was also part of the problem. Germany was seen as a dictator. | | | | | But it has no relation to Brexit in the slightest, British Muslims have nothing to do with the current refugee and immigration influx, we have had growing Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities for a long time. That Islamic terrorism was just another bit of anti EU ammunition by the Brexit lobbyists.
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31.07.2018, 18:09
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | 1 - According to the quran, all Muslims should fight and subjugated the infidels.
| | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Completely different! Muslims in CH are mostly Balkans who are well known to be moderate. | | | | | Oh good, we are making progress.
So it is not all Muslims after all!
Now you just have to recognise that 99.99% of Muslims are well known to be moderate. | 
31.07.2018, 18:12
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"Moderate Muslim" is a meaningless term. Why do people insist on using it?
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31.07.2018, 18:23
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Aham 
Not immigration from just Libya but Pakistan and other countries
It's funny that 10 years ago the British were complaining about Polish immigraton...  | | | | | And that video is 5 years old!
Anyway nice peaceful demonstration with babies in pushchairs.
Of course the demonstrators dressed up for the event.
Even the interviewer Stacey dresses up for demonstrations, she is the one in the middle in the photo below. I do not suppose she wears that every day?
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31.07.2018, 18:28
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | And the thread title is? I don't see the word Balkan? | | | | | Look more closely then.
Does your dictionary specifically exclude Balkan from the scope of the word "all"?
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31.07.2018, 18:40
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Oh good, we are making progress.
So it is not all Muslims after all!
Now you just have to recognise that 99.99% of Muslims are well known to be moderate.  | | | | | FALSE! Intelligent agencies from both Europe and the USA estimate that 25% of muslims are fundamentalists. That's 400M people who follow the quran literally.
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