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Old 17.09.2018, 21:43
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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According to your link half a billion euros per year, you should not believe everything you read
Here you are - now according to ol Ace we are free to post non English links , thanks Ace

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Πρόκειται για τη γνωστή καραμέλα που μέσω της προπαγάνδας των ΜΜΕ έχει εμποτιστεί ολόκληρη η ελληνική κοινωνία η οποία και δεν αντιδρά πλέον., όντας υπνωτισμένη και σε λήθαργο.

Από την επιχείρηση μετά την άφιξη των αλλοδαπών στη χώρα (πιο ακριβέστερα στη «χώρα») η ERCI αντλούσε ακόμη 5.000 ευρώ το χρόνο κατ΄άτομο από διάφορα προγράμματα (εκπαιδευτικά, διαμονής, διατροφής) κάτι που ανεβάζει τα έσοδα της εταιρείας στο μισό δισ.το χρόνο.
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Old 17.09.2018, 21:44
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The Greek news links in the article were to English language items.

You did not quote the Greek news links directly in your post because they did not confirm the sensational and excessive slant in your post?
You didn't bother to click on the links obviously did you ?? Quelle surprise...
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Old 17.09.2018, 21:46
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The headline of the BBC article is :


Ekathimerini, which is one of the most read Greek news sites, also covered the story on 31 August, by posting the Reuters article...

http://www.ekathimerini.com/232174/a...ce-says-lawyer

Headline :

...and the most recent article about her situation, and that of others like her, was posted here on 16 September...

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...094948176.html

HEadline :

which rather contrast with the headline of the article I quoted :



Now, what was the point that you're trying to make?
The very fact that you acknowledge that the subject of the three articles you quote is the fate of the swimmer or her sister RATHER than the Greece smuggling ring should tell you that there is quite some difference.

No doubt you failed to notice that neither the swimmer nor her sister were referred to at all in the gatestone article but according to you the articles are apparently quite the same ??[/QUOTE]

There is no "Greek smuggling ring" other than in the imagination of some alt right authors, reputable news outlets do not publish such allegations without any solid evidence?
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Old 17.09.2018, 21:50
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There is no "Greek smuggling ring" other than in the imagination of some alt right authors, reputable news outlets do not publish such allegations without any solid evidence?
Uhh the original source is the police statement of 28 August :

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Police in Greece said on Tuesday (28 August) they had arrested three members of a Greek NGO on suspicion of helping migrants illegally enter the country.

The members of Emergency Response Centre International (ERCI) were detained on the Greek island of Lesbos, where thousands of migrants are housed in squalid conditions in cramped camps.

The activities of an organised criminal network that systematically facilitated the illegal entry of foreigners were fully exposed,” a police statement said.

Members of the group were in contact with migrants on social media groups and “actively assisted” their illegal entry into Greece from 2015 onwards, according to the statement.
Hilariously enough ekathimerini did in fact cover the story as Blueangel suggested but not in the article she linked to but in one that goes further than the gatestone one :

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Greek authorities have arrested two aid workers and are investigating a total of 30 from the same organization on the island of Lesvos on suspicion they smuggled migrants into Greece, spied and laundered money, police said on Tuesday.

Police said in a statement that the suspects, 24 foreign nationals and six Greeks, had been active on the island since at least late 2015 as part of a non-governmental organization, whose name the authorities would not disclose.

Lesvos, not far from Turkey in the northeast Aegean Sea, was the preferred entry point into the European Union in 2015 for nearly a million Syrians, Afghans and Iraqis, and dozens of aid groups operated on the island at the time.

Over 19,000 refugees and migrants have crossed to Greece from Turkey so far this year, according to data from the United Nations refugee agency, UNHCR.

Police said the suspected crime ring allegedly “provided direct assistance to organized migrant trafficking rings.”

They said the group obtained “significant amounts of money,” including from donations, without disclosing the amount.

The 30 workers are being investigated on a case-by-case basis on suspicion of “establishing and joining a criminal organization, money laundering, espionage, violating state secrets, counterfeiting and offenses against the immigration code and electronic communication legislation,” police said.

They allegedly obtained confidential information on refugee flows from Turkey and illegally monitored the radio communications of the Greek coast guard and the EU’s border agency Frontex.
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Old 17.09.2018, 22:11
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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Uhh the original source is the police statement of 28 August :

Hilariously enough ekathimerini did in fact cover the story as Blueangel suggested but not in the article she linked to but in one that goes further than the gatestone one :
These are all allegations which will need to be proven or discarded.

Where is the evidence?
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Old 17.09.2018, 22:45
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Here you are - now according to ol Ace we are free to post non English links , thanks Ace
I certainly hope you won't be allowed to keep your puerile nonsense flowing for long.

It's blatantly obvious that Ace1 meant "content of Greek origin" as opposed to "content in Greek language".
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Old 17.09.2018, 22:58
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These are all allegations which will need to be proven or discarded.
He clearly doesn't understand the concept of 'on suspicion'. What makes me laugh is, in the time he's spent today, getting his knickers in a twist over a 2 week old news story that he's suddenly dug up (quelle surprise indeed ), I've done 4 loads of washing, booked flights, 3 hotels and car hire, packed my case, made dinner, resolved a billing issue in the UK, had 3 phone calls with friends, and done 2hrs of German homework plus revision.

At the end of all that, I still have no idea what point he was trying to make, but no doubt he'll groan me for asking for clarification...again!
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Old 17.09.2018, 23:19
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Hilariously enough ekathimerini did in fact cover the story as Blueangel suggested but not in the article she linked to but in one that goes further than the gatestone one :
If you'd dug a little deeper you'd have found that two ESRI members who were arrested earlier this year for what seems to be a minor thing, in February if memory serves, got the ball rolling.

However you'd also have found that only one vehicle is supposed to have been used (follow the link in the fourth paragraph). A van. One van. It is simply impossible to move 70'000 people illegally across the border over the course of about two years with a single van. Even if you assume 20 seats, that's five times back and forth each and every day, without any room for pause, maintenance, or any other kind of downtime. Simply not possible.

At the same time you'd also have come across the name Panos Moraitis, founder of ESRI and Aspida Maritime Security Corp. The latter is a mercenary company providing maritime protection services against Somalian pirates, among others.

The connection doesn't seem to be too far-fetched, the various arms could actually feed each other. Whether the allegations have any merit though is yet to be seen - innocent until proven guilty.
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Oh well, at least we get a break from this nonsense thread for a month!
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Old 18.09.2018, 10:36
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Oh well, at least we get a break from this nonsense thread for a month!


unless... dupey mcdupeface appears.


(and you still have other 2... "contributors")
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Old 19.09.2018, 10:00
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Predictably, the media for the hard-of-thinking is referring to this as a "hit-and-run". Had it been a carload of Muslims running down a group of C of E church-goers, whilst screaming anti-Christian sentiment, it would have automatically been "a terror attack".

They don't even try to hide their double standards any more.
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Predictably, the media for the hard-of-thinking is referring to this as a "hit-and-run". Had it been a carload of Muslims running down a group of C of E church-goers, whilst screaming anti-Christian sentiment, it would have automatically been "a terror attack".

They don't even try to hide their double standards any more.
The police have said that they're not treating the incident as terror-related.
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The police have said that they're not treating the incident as terror-related.
Perfect.

I have a feeling this post is going to echo later in the thread.
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The police have said that they're not treating the incident as terror-related.
The point, KrissKross...sorry, i mean Jazzyjeff...my bad, i mean billy bob, is that were the perpetrator a muslim, evidence would not have been sought before the Daily mail used the T word...
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The point, KrissKross...sorry, i mean Jazzyjeff...my bad, i mean billy bob, is that were the perpetrator a muslim, evidence would not have been sought before the Daily mail used the T word...


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alliteraton always alive!!!




(ok i wanted to say it never days but that isn't an alliteration)
Bureaucracy bans Billy_Bob's blatant bifurcation bid?
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Old 20.09.2018, 09:36
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Positive news

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US says worldwide terrorism deaths decreased 27% last year
And for those who think it all happens in Europe.
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"Fifty-nine percent of all attacks took place in five countries. Those are Afghanistan, India, Iraq, Pakistan and the Philippines,"
"70% of all deaths due to terrorist attacks took place" in Afghanistan, Iraq, Nigeria, Somalia and Syria.
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

This has been quiet for a while! Anyway some good news
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Pakistan’s supreme court has struck down the death sentence for blasphemy handed down to Christian woman Asia Bibi, in a long-delayed, landmark decision that has seen the judiciary praised for its bravery in the face of threats of violence and protest from the country’s Islamist groups.
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This has been quiet for a while! Anyway some good news


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Holland will probably offer Asia Bibi Asylum. Heck - maybe even Ayaan Hirsi Ali might be able to return.
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This has been quiet for a while!
Those nasty muzzies haven't been going on enough killing sprees recently. They really are letting the thread down.

Luckily, the slack is being picked up by the right wingers.
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