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Old 18.01.2016, 11:26
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Foreigners? Who? People who were born here? Or are these things to be measured genetically? Perhaps only white people qualify?
People born here are not necessarily citizens. They can still be foreigners. Did you not know that?
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Old 18.01.2016, 11:42
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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That article as well as the campaign is more than four years old
My bad, I read 2015... Monday morning plus need new glasses.

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What, that you have to dredge up 4 year old nonsense to keep your anti-Muslim hysteria going?
I think you need to look up the dictionary definition of "Hysteria", and I'm not "anti-muslim", I'm anti-extremism and radicalism. Anything hard line, regardless of which religion it is. If it was Catholicism causing the same issues now I would be giving them just as much flak, and I certainly did so when tall of the child molestation stories came out.

However, don't let that stop you trying to score some weak points, I understand what it must be like.
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Old 18.01.2016, 11:53
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I think you need to look up the dictionary definition of "Hysteria", and I'm not "anti-muslim", I'm anti-extremism
So forming a lobby group to represent second generation immigrants is 'extremism'? Even if they did want to remove the cross from the flag and the bells from Swiss cows, as long as they do so peacefully and democratically, what is the problem??
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So forming a lobby group to represent second generation immigrants is 'extremism'? Even if they did want to remove the cross from the flag and the bells from Swiss cows, as long as they do so peacefully and democratically, what is the problem??
Consider the following only partially fictional statement:
I can and occasionally will discipline my brother but if you were to do exactly the same I'd kill you.

Siblings/everybody else. Insiders/outsiders. Citizens/foreigners. etc.

Different groups but the psychology and fundamental mechanisms/reactions remain.
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I think you need to look up the dictionary definition of "Hysteria", and I'm not "anti-muslim", I'm anti-extremism and radicalism.
Nope.

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To say I disliked Islam in the first place would be putting it mildly. Now, I probably couldn't write what is really running through my mind.
Shootings and the explosions in Paris
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Old 18.01.2016, 13:27
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

No facts, no logic, no rational thinking, trying to put things mildly to please instead of admitting anti-muslim sentiment,.....this does not look like Richdog.
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

It was badly and phrased and rationalised on my part due to the emotion of the attacks (I had friends there and was worried about them therefore not posting 100% rationally, but I'm guessing from your Spock-esque posts that emotional intelligence may not be your strongest point). I certainly have no love for Islam as its not my religion and I don't identify with it one iota, but I don't "hate" it, and it's only the elements which are considered hard line or extreme that I really have a problem with.
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What, that you have to dredge up 4 year old nonsense to keep your anti-Muslim hysteria going?
Ban starting in 5, 4, 3......

No really, you have the tools. Use them and be done with it.
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Ban starting in 5, 4, 3......

No really, you have the tools. Use them and be done with it.
These views should never be subject of a ban nor swept under the carpet. Expose them and keep them in the open. There should be freedom of speech here, as in the real world.

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but I'm guessing from your Spock-esque posts that emotional intelligence may not be your strongest point)
Please, enough of the ad hominem nonsense. Argue the point or don't.
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These views should never be subject of a ban nor swept under the carpet. Expose them and keep them in the open. There should be freedom of speech here, as in the real world.
greenmount can't deal with extended debates so she makes do with entering threads to snipe. It's quite sweet, really.

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Please, enough of the ad hominem nonsense. Argue the point or don't.
Personally, I enjoy an occasional spot of ad hominem mixed in with with the points that I am arguing, and sometimes it's even deserved.
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Muslims Just Donated 30,000 Bottles Of Water To Victims Of Michigan Poisoning
Full details here.
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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greenmount can't deal with extended debates so she makes do with entering threads to snipe. It's quite sweet, really.
That is because I have other things to do in the meantime sweetheart. Not everyone can spend their entire day reading and replying to posts on EF like others.
Btw, I wouldn't want you banned, you are far too entertaining, emotional etc. Lots of drama in you.
My post was sarcastic, didn't really ask anyone to ban you....
Hope Castro agrees.

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These views should never be subject of a ban nor swept under the carpet. Expose them and keep them in the open. There should be freedom of speech here, as in the real world..
It was a sarcastic post, following a ban most EFers didn't agree with...

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Old 01.02.2016, 19:51
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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Laut der Studie stimmten 60 Prozent der Befragten der Aussage zu, dass Muslime zu den Wurzeln des Islam zurückkehren sollten. 75 Prozent bejahten den Standpunkt, dass es nur eine Interpretation des Korans gebe und dass alle Muslime sich an diese zu halten hätten. Drittens hielten 65 Prozent der Studienteilnehmer die Regeln des Korans für wichtiger als staatliche Gesetze. Wer allen drei Aussagen zustimmte, legte gemäss der Untersuchungsdefinition eine fundamentalistische Haltung an den Tag. Das traf auf 44 Prozent der Befragten zu.
http://www.20min.ch/ausland/news/story/22077221
https://www.wzb.eu/de/forschung/migr...ntry-immigrant

Kind of unsettling study. 65% of the Muslims living in EU polled said the Koran is more important than government laws
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Old 01.02.2016, 19:54
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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Kind of unsettling study. 65% of the Muslims living in EU polled said the Koran is more important than government laws
Bit meaningless really without a lot of context.

I find Migros and Mobility more important than government law.
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Old 01.02.2016, 19:58
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Bit meaningless really without a lot of context.
What kind of context do you need?

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I find Migros and Mobility more important than government law.
So if there is a police officer and a Migros employee telling you two different things, you listen to the Migros employee? LOL, ok...
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Bandar Al-Khaybari, a preacher with the Saudi Ministry of Islamic Affairs, trolls Western scientists. Hard to argue his logic


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Old 01.02.2016, 20:01
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Bandar Al-Khaybari, a preacher with the Saudi Ministry of Islamic Affairs, trolls Western scientists. Hard to argue his logic


This old video again .. and yes, he is an idiot and was widely ridiculed in the Muslim world.
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Old 01.02.2016, 20:07
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What kind of context do you need?
What does being "more important than government laws" mean?

Does it mean, "Thou shalt not commit adultery, but there's no governemt law"; "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, but there's no law against it."

Perhaps "abortion is murder, even though government law says otherthwise".

Maybe you're right. Maybe they mean "Behead the infidels, and to hell with the government". That'd be concerning.

It's a stupid comparison, without a lot more explanation.

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So if there is a police officer and a Migros employee telling you two different things, you listen to the Migros employee? LOL, ok...
No. But that wasn't the question. If I want some soup, I'll go to Migros and not the local police station. Define "important".
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Kind of unsettling study. 65% of the Muslims living in EU polled said the Koran is more important than government laws
Are you surprised? How does a Muslim of any country describe themselves first? French, American, British? No - as a Muslim. Their religion is at the heart of who and what they are regardless of where they live.

That doesn't mean they don't respect and obey the laws of the government they live under. Only the fanatics and idiots see no reason to obey government laws.
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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Kind of unsettling study. 65% of the Muslims living in EU polled said the Koran is more important than government laws

I assume if you go to any Republican political convention and ask the same question about the Bible you would get better than 65%; how honest they would be is a good question.
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