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Old 06.02.2017, 11:04
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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You can have Islam, or you can have equal rights for women. You can't have both.

Muslim women 'stopped from becoming Labour councillors'
That is just an English thing
Benazir Bhutto won election in 1988, becoming the first female prime minister of a Muslim nation.
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Benazir Bhutto won election in 1988, becoming the first female prime minister of a Muslim nation.
Really? Where is she now?
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Old 06.02.2017, 11:27
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Really? Where is she now?
Dead. Assassinated in 2007.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assass...Benazir_Bhutto
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Ahhh, so not an English thing then
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Ahhh, so not an English thing then
More male Ministers murdered in Pakistan than female
Liaquat Ali Khan, Shahbaz Bhatti, Salman Taseer, Shuja Khanzada
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More male Ministers murdered in Pakistan than female
Liaquat Ali Khan, Shahbaz Bhatti, Salman Taseer, Shuja Khanzada
That's just because there are more male ministers to start with.
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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You can have Islam, or you can have equal rights for women. You can't have both.

Muslim women 'stopped from becoming Labour councillors'
It says far more about the state of the Labour party at present than anything else.

But if you honestly believe there is a block on Muslim women in British politics, you could always write to the following people and ask why...

Baroness Helic
Baroness Mobarik CBE
Baroness Hussein-Ece OBE
Baroness Warsi
Baroness Uddin
Tulip Rizwana Siddiq MP
Nus Ghani MP
Rupa Huq MP
Rushanara Ali MP
Shabana Mahmood MP
Yasmin Qureshi MP
Nus Ghani MP
Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh MP
Naz Shah MP

Just so you know, they're all women and they're all Muslim.
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Ahhh, so not an English thing then
Just wondering why the assassination of this particular Prime Minister seems to be the thing that is defining her political career.

She has a whole Wiki page with all sorts of clever politicky stuff in it...
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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You can have Islam, or you can have equal rights for women. You can't have both.

Muslim women 'stopped from becoming Labour councillors'
You can have christianity, or you can have equal rights for women. You can't have both.

Ephesians 5:
"Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything."
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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That's just because there are more male ministers to start with.
No fooling you is there
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Christian culture, clearly superior:

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ralia-revealed

"Seven per cent of Australia’s Catholic priests were accused of abusing children in the six decades since 1950, according to new data from the royal commission."

To be fair, 7 is a lucky number.
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It says far more about the state of the Labour party at present than anything else.
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You can have christianity, or you can have equal rights for women. You can't have both.

Ephesians 5:
"Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything."
Meanwhile, in the real world:

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Meanwhile, in the real world:

Based on what criteria?

They just had some poor woman in the Philippines horse-whipped for shagging a bloke outside of marriage, and it's apparently above Switzerland on the gender gap pissing contest, is why I ask...
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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Based on what criteria?

They just had some poor woman in the Philippines horse-whipped for shagging a bloke outside of marriage, and it's apparently above Switzerland on the gender gap pissing contest, is why I ask...
Strange list, USA is ranked at 45 whereas the Muslim majority country Kazakhstan is at 51.
Trump's favourite country Russia is at 75
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You can have christianity, or you can have equal rights for women. You can't have both.

Ephesians 5:
"Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything."
All middle-eastern regions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) are the same in that respect (or lack thereof), as they all are based on the same book.

Tom
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All middle-eastern regions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) are the same in that respect (or lack thereof), as they all are based on the same book.

Tom
That's kinda my point.
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All middle-eastern regions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) are the same in that respect (or lack thereof), as they all are based on the same book.

Tom
Which was largely written by a bunch of blokes off their heads on ergot.
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

The Berlin mosque which was attended by the Christmas market attacker has been raided by police and banned.

I also noticed last week at the Winterthur mosque that the two people who reported the imam for inciting murder were attacked and now the mosque wants to press charges against them for secretly filming the controversial sermon.
Strange, it's almost like they're upset that these two exposed the extremist elements within the mosque?
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The Berlin mosque which was attended by the Christmas market attacker has been raided by police and banned.

I also noticed last week at the Winterthur mosque that the two people who reported the imam for inciting murder were attacked and now the mosque wants to press charges against them for secretly filming the controversial sermon.
Strange, it's almost like they're upset that these two exposed the extremist elements within the mosque?
So the right to privacy for everyone else in the congregation should be ignored?

What about the people who attended the sermon without knowing in advance what was going to be said at the sermon? They're filmed too. Once that film is in the public domain, they become targets as well.

You do know that the vast majority of the congregants will not know in advance what the sermon will cover, right? and that just because it is said in a sermon, doesnt mean most wont just ignore it (in much the same way as most Christians dont act on the sermons they receive on Sundays)

Is this not why Switzerland has privacy laws? Could the whistle not have been blown (something which all reasonable people would agree is good) without breaking another law in the process?
Why did he go to the press and not the police in the first place?
Surely if the imam was inciting murder, the police are the people to deal with it, not the press?
Did they not realize that it is more difficult to prosecute, if the evidence is obtained illegally, as this was?

In any case, it will now go through the courts who will make the decision. I think most people are happy with that.

Its a cheap shot, to claim that the police should not take seriously something which was against the law, based only on your anti-muslim fanaticism.
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Regarding the Berlin Mosque, from your own source:

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A motion to ban the mosque had been submitted on February 15th, and the prayer rooms were closed down by the mosque itself a week ago. The mosque has also cancelled its rental contract for the space, according to Berlin interior minister Andreas Geisel.
Looks like the mosque was closing anyway and wasn't 'banned' as you claim.

Tell the truth, now. Dont want any of those 'alternative facts' flying around here.
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