...or what you don't want to see....

In all fairness, this extends to one of your mods also. It is bordering on trolling - hence the merry go round.

A lot of Catholiocs don't even go to church regularly, if at all. But they are still Catholics.

If you are ex-communicated, you are NOT banned from entering churches, just from receiving sacrements.

Tom

This whole thread is pretty embarassing for EF, to be honest.

You ain't seen nothing yet. Next week they're solving Israel & Palestine. UN's missing a trick not having EF members on it's council.

Too much faith in the superiority of their values and the unproved conviction that their values will naturally be embraced by everyone. If it was like that it would have happened long time ago. It didn't.

But it's not (only) arrogance, it's about being very naive and easy to be fooled. Combined with the fact that people are not allowed to think with their own heads anymore.

As a scientist I would say that there are far too many variables in the equation. You have oil, politics, one-sided Israel policies, US Imperialism, GCC meddling, religion, tribalism, territorial expansion, Proxy US-Russian fighting, Arms deals, Western backed dictatorships, jobs in Fort Worth etc..

So yeah, unless you can nail down a few of these variables good luck trying to solve the problem.

Or just break the men - power - profit - greed cycle.

You can eliminate many of the variables immediately:

Oil: many countries have oil, Norway, Russia, S.America... not so much problems with Islamic Terrorism (except Islamic parts of Russia). So we can cross out oil as a root cause.

Politics: all countries have politics, not all countries have Islamic terror problems. Cross it out.

US Imperialism: blaming the US is always easy, however, US is active in many regions of the world, ex. South Korea, Japan, where no Islamic terrorism is present

Tribalism/Territorial expansion: this is definitely part of the reason for fighting in the ME. But many countries/areas also have this problem, without invoking terrorism against civilian populations (eg. Russia/Ukraine fighting)

US/Russia proxy fighting: see Ukraine, no Islamic terrorism there. In fact, look at all of E.Europe, the whole Cold War had many of the variables you stated (politics, US imperialism, US/Russia proxys, politics) yet no Islamic terrorism, or really terrorism of any kind....

Maybe...going out on a limb here...but maybe, Islamic terrorism has more to do with Islam than all of the other variables you threw out there?

Religion has been present since the 7th century, why haven't we seen 1400 years of terrorism?
cue.. furious googling

Hahahaha, give me a break! Women are brutally subjugated, homosexuals killed, children run over by vans, but according to a Marxist group "some parts of her story are not true" is more important?!?

I thought you said you were a scientist.

Then you will know there is a difference between a sufficient condition and a necessary condition.

http://philosophy.wisc.edu/hausman/3...ll/nec-suf.htm

True so what changed 40 years ago?

Good question. My hypothesis (based on zero Googling) is that religions evolve, and go thru different stages. Christianity had a very dark and violent period before it became reformed. I would say that right now is a dark period for Islam...and it's now time for a reformation...

What's your thoughts? It's all America's fault?

Depends on your definition of terrorism. For sure millions of people have been slaughtered within that timeframe in allegiance to imaginary friends.

If you go back in time you will find that Rugby and Soccer were once the same game, but that the rules evolved differently.

But you wouldn't argue that a Rugby ball is the same shape as a Soccer ball now, would you, or that all the same rules apply?

Just because three major religions were started by the same guy, this does not mean they haven't evolved, each in their own way, and that their present concepts and understanding of God are still identical.

OK, let's take you by your word.

Do you have evidence that ISIS people left out the second part of that proclamation?

If not, what relevance does this have to them being or not not being Muslims?

Israel has nothing to do with Islamist terrorism except as an anti semitic excuse.

People are killing each other over a dumb story made up by caravan robber, and the response is to argue the details of the story... to decide if everyone who has heard and believes the story is a true story believer or not.

'statements of fact', lol..



Islam is pretty embarrassing for modern man, to be honest.