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Old 20.09.2017, 12:32
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"I believe God created me in one day."
"Looks like he rushed it"

Has this guy received any death or rape threats by angered Christians or Republicans? Is he being investigated by the Texas police because of his jokes?

....it would be great if Muslim comedians had the same freedom of speech...


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A satirical video has exposed the sensitivity over Islamic law in Malaysia - as well as the limits of online speech in the country.
It was supposed to be a light-hearted poke at proposals to expand Islamic law in one state in Malaysia. But a video starring journalist Aisyah Tajuddin resulted in death and rape threats along with a police investigation.



Threats are not the end of it for the journalist - Aisyah is now being investigated by police for blasphemy, and could face up to a year in jail if convicted.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-32089787
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Old 20.09.2017, 13:38
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Apparently Texas retracted on teaching both side by side. Others however do, see this map from 2014 for example.
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Maybe soon they will start teaching two versions of mathematics, one where 2+2 = 4 and one where 2 + 2 = 5 and let the pupils choose
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Old 20.09.2017, 14:32
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Maybe soon they will start teaching two versions of mathematics, one where 2+2 = 4 and one where 2 + 2 = 5 and let the pupils choose
https://finance.townhall.com/columni...swers-n1667595
They already do, Liberals in the US have devised "Common Core" math, where students can give wrong answers, but still get good grades

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Common Core Teachers Taught to Praise Wrong Answers Like ’3 x 4 was 11’


Apparently, under the new Common-Core standards, correct answers don’t really matter. At least that’s according to a “curriculum coordinator” in Chicago named Amanda August. “Even if [a student] said, ’3 x 4 was 11,’ if they were able to explain their reasoning and explain how they came up with their answer really in, umm, words and oral explanation, and they showed it in the picture but they just got the final number wrong, we’re really more focused on the how,” said the common core supporter and typical liberal, Amanda.
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Old 20.09.2017, 15:03
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Has this guy received any death or rape threats by angered Christians or Republicans? Is he being investigated by the Texas police because of his jokes?
You've never heard of the late, great Bill Hicks??? (died 1994)
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Old 20.09.2017, 15:39
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You've never heard of the late, great Bill Hicks??? (died 1994)
Not really. But generally speaking, comedians in the West make jokes about religion (Christianity, Jewish, etc.) all the time, and generally walk around without fear of getting killed or thrown in jail. Joking about Muhammad? Hmmm, ask Charlie Hebdo, Dutch cartoonists....and those are just in Western countries. Go into the Middle East and crack some jokes about Muhammad and see how it ends...
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Old 20.09.2017, 16:06
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Maybe soon they will start teaching two versions of mathematics, one where 2+2 = 4 and one where 2 + 2 = 5 and let the pupils choose
Yeah, it's really crazy. The conclusion is that the scientific approach is bogus despite its clear effectiveness.
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Old 20.09.2017, 16:14
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Not really. But generally speaking, comedians in the West make jokes about religion (Christianity, Jewish, etc.) all the time, and generally walk around without fear of getting killed or thrown in jail. Joking about Muhammad? Hmmm, ask Charlie Hebdo, Dutch cartoonists....and those are just in Western countries. Go into the Middle East and crack some jokes about Muhammad and see how it ends...
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Old 20.09.2017, 16:34
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Common Core Teachers Taught to Praise Wrong Answers Like ’3 x 4 was 11’

Apparently, under the new Common-Core standards, correct answers don’t really matter. At least that’s according to a “curriculum coordinator” in Chicago named Amanda August. “Even if [a student] said, ’3 x 4 was 11,’ if they were able to explain their reasoning and explain how they came up with their answer really in, umm, words and oral explanation, and they showed it in the picture but they just got the final number wrong, we’re really more focused on the how,” said the common core supporter and typical liberal, Amanda.
Looks like just another misrepresentation by the alt-right that amounts to a lie.

Apparently not the false result is praised but the correct logic used on the way to arrive there, and the correct intermediate results.

Over here, even in the good old days (cough) you'd get half points for getting, say, the final formula right but arriving at a false result because you botched the final calculation after inserting the respective values. Or perhaps you switched two digits of the right parameter so still ended up with the wrong result.

I'm surprised this is a new thing in the US.
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Old 20.09.2017, 16:53
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Looks like just another misrepresentation by the alt-right that amounts to a lie.
Not really. Google "Common Core Math". Liberal Logic has managed to destroy something as simple as 2+2. Literally. Nobody likes it. Except Obama. And people who can't do math to start with. Conservatives HATE it across the board, partly because it is non-traditional, and partly because it rewards wrong answers (or marks correct answers wrong).

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Here's a "repeated addition" Common Core problem that's taught in third grade in US schools:
Use the repeated-addition strategy to solve 5x3.
If you answer the question with 5+5+5=15, you would be wrong.
The correct answer is 3+3+3+3+3.
Mathematically, both are correct. But under Common Core, you're supposed to read 5x3 as "five groups of three." So "three groups of five" is wrong.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/why-55...5-10?r=US&IR=T
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Old 20.09.2017, 17:10
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Looks like just another misrepresentation by the alt-right that amounts to a lie.

Apparently not the false result is praised but the correct logic used on the way to arrive there, and the correct intermediate results.

Over here, even in the good old days (cough) you'd get half points for getting, say, the final formula right but arriving at a false result because you botched the final calculation after inserting the respective values. Or perhaps you switched two digits of the right parameter so still ended up with the wrong result.

I'm surprised this is a new thing in the US.
It's not a new thing.

It's just a combo of poor communication and nit picking.
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Old 20.09.2017, 17:15
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Maybe soon they will start teaching two versions of mathematics, one where 2+2 = 4 and one where 2 + 2 = 5 and let the pupils choose
If you turn that into a lesson on showing how mathematical principles are derived from axioms, and how axioms are rooted in empirics, I think it would be a very valuable lesson, not just in mathematics but also in epistemology.

On the other hand, if you think its better to teach that, on authority 2+2=4, how then are kids going to deal with somebody else telling them on authority that 2+2=5 if they haven't learnt anything about reasoning?
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Old 20.09.2017, 17:35
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If you turn that into a lesson on showing how mathematical principles are derived from axioms, and how axioms are rooted in empirics, I think it would be a very valuable lesson, not just in mathematics but also in epistemology.

On the other hand, if you think its better to teach that, on authority 2+2=4, how then are kids going to deal with somebody else telling them on authority that 2+2=5 if they haven't learnt anything about reasoning?
"how then are kids going to deal with somebody else telling them on authority that 2+2=5". I am sure they will meet many schoolteachers who teach them something that is not in the approved syllabus
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Old 20.09.2017, 18:08
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"how then are kids going to deal with somebody else telling them on authority that 2+2=5". I am sure they will meet many schoolteachers who teach them something that is not in the approved syllabus
Okay, so let's summarize, we don't need to teach people to reason or to think for themselves because there is an approved syllabus that will ensure they are never exposed to incorrect facts?
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Not really. Google "Common Core Math". Liberal Logic has managed to destroy something as simple as 2+2. Literally. Nobody likes it. Except Obama. And people who can't do math to start with. Conservatives HATE it across the board, partly because it is non-traditional, and partly because it rewards wrong answers (or marks correct answers wrong).

http://uk.businessinsider.com/why-55...5-10?r=US&IR=T
Bullshit, it's got nothing to do with Common Core.

Perhaps you should start with reading the links in what you link to. From the page linked to under "Common Core" in the Business Insider article:
"The standards just lay out what kids should know and be able to do, not actual lessons," Noschese said. "Nothing in Common Core forces the specific interpretation these teachers used."

The article goes on, provides additonal information about this aspect that says roughly the same. It's not as if you'd overlooked some obscure remark, you simply didn't read it.
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Old 21.09.2017, 14:28
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Meanwhile in the UK: 4.5 years jail for ISIS propaganda. This will cost UK taxpayers 245,000£.

Removing british citizenship would be cheaper.
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Meanwhile in the UK: 4.5 years jail for ISIS propaganda. This will cost UK taxpayers 245,000£.

Removing british citizenship would be cheaper.
How does that work if they only have British nationality?

Yes, there might be some of dual nationality but you're stuffed if they are only British.
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How does that work if they only have British nationality?

Yes, there might be some of dual nationality but you're stuffed if they are only British.
He is dual, Pakistani/British.
But what's next? Internment camps like for Japanese Americans during WWII?
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He is dual, Pakistani/British.
But what's next? Internment camps like for Japanese Americans during WWII?
I was sort of referring to people like Jack Letts.

They come from a middle-class secular family and their jihad tendencies seem to come from boredom/stupidity and teenage rebellion more than anything else.
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He is dual, Pakistani/British.
But what's next? Internment camps like for Japanese Americans during WWII?
Rather than house & feed him, while allowing him to indoctrinate fellow prisoners - send him away.

Many of the Islamists have dual nationality. solving a large part of the problem is better than not solving it at all.
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Many of the Islamists have dual nationality. solving a large part of the problem is better than not solving it at all.
Pray tell, do you have official stats to back up your assertion?
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