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06.10.2017, 14:39
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Apropos of nothing, despite being in the Zürich urban area, Regensdorf is dominated by the SVP.
Just sayin'
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06.10.2017, 15:07
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08.10.2017, 00:43
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)
New Zealand will gets its first ever refugee MP. Golriz Ghahraman arrived in the country as a nine-year-old from Iran, and studied human rights law at Oxford University and worked for the UN as a lawyer.
Ghahraman told Fairfax New Zealand she was “excited and really, really humbled”.
“I feel a sense of responsibility to the thousands of volunteers that helped me get here but also to everyone around the world who has reached out since I became a candidate,” she said. “Being someone from the Middle East making it to parliament is gratifying,” the daughter of Iranian political asylum seekers said. Source
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27.10.2017, 00:35
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Saudi Arabia’s crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, has vowed to return the country to “moderate Islam” and asked for global support to transform the hardline kingdom into an open society that empowers citizens and lures investors. Source
Sounds positive
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06.12.2017, 19:59
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)
Sweden's national forensic medicine agency checked the age of nearly 8,000 people and found that some 6,600 were 18 or over. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-42234585
Curiously enough you've really got to dig to find the report on the Beeb and slightly more bizarre it states :
"Sweden child migrant tests 'reveal many adults' " as a headline
"A Swedish investigation into migrants claiming asylum as children suggests that three-quarters of those tested were over the age of 18."
but a bit further down
"Of those, examinations suggested 6,628 were 18 or older ( 84%), and 112 "possibly" 18 or older"
Total math failure or wilful ignorance ??
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22.12.2017, 14:41
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)
Muslim refugee rams cars into pedestrians in Melbourne, injuring 14 BBC link | 
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Muslim refugee rams cars into pedestrians in Melbourne, injuring 14 BBC link | | | | | Not a refugee at all. From the very article you linked | Quote: |  | | | The Australian citizen of Afghan descent | | | | | And what's his religion got to do with it anyway? | Quote: |  | | | The man who deliberately drove a car into a crowd in Melbourne is a drug user with mental health issues but no known terrorism links, police say. | | | | | | The following 2 users would like to thank Ace1 for this useful post: | | 
22.12.2017, 14:51
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Ahem, this has ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO DO WITH TERRORISM. He was a mentally ill drug addict.
Who just happened to be Muslim and have a beard.
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22.12.2017, 14:52
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Muslim refugee rams cars into pedestrians in Melbourne, injuring 14 BBC link | | | | | Um, where in the article does it say he's a Muslim?
"The man who deliberately drove a car into a crowd in Melbourne is a drug user with mental health issues but no known terrorism links, police say.
The Australian citizen of Afghan descent was taken into custody after a struggle at the scene of the incident."
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Ahem, this has ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO DO WITH TERRORISM. He was a mentally ill drug addict.
Who just happened to be Muslim and have a beard. | | | | | And Vic. Police have confirmed it was a deliberate attack which was motivated, at least partially, by the mistreatment of Muslims.
But yeah, nothing to do with terrorism or Islam, excuse my bigotry.
(And yes, he came to Australia as a refugee - you might have to sort through some fake news to find that information though)
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22.12.2017, 14:59
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | And Vic. Police have confirmed it was a deliberate attack which was motivated, at least partially, by the mistreatment of Muslims.
But yeah, nothing to do with terrorism or Islam, excuse my bigotry.
(And yes, he came to Australia as a refugee) | | | | | Link?
Never mind - found one. http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/22/as...ntl/index.html | 
22.12.2017, 15:00
| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | And Vic. Police have confirmed it was a deliberate attack which was motivated, at least partially, by the mistreatment of Muslims.
But yeah, nothing to do with terrorism or Islam, excuse my bigotry.
(And yes, he came to Australia as a refugee) | | | | | This poses a bit of a conundrum for the apologists. If this guy wasn't a terrorist then nor was Thomas Mair.
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Ace if it was motivated by Islam and he was a refugee will you remove the bad rep?
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)
90% of refugees / asylum seekers in Switzerland are on welfare.
From the same article more than 25% of all welfare recipients in Switzerland are either refugees or asylum seekers.
And some people would have you believe they found their way to Switzerland because it's so much safer here...
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22.12.2017, 15:11
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Still doesn't say he was a Muslim though. There are people from Afghanistan who aren't you know. Just because he has sympathy for the way some Muslims have been treated, doesn't mean he's one himself.
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22.12.2017, 15:33
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | 90% of refugees / asylum seekers in Switzerland are on welfare.
From the same article more than 25% of all welfare recipients in Switzerland are either refugees or asylum seekers.
And some people would have you believe they found their way to Switzerland because it's so much safer here... | | | | | Yes, but is that because they're not allowed to work? Can't really complain about it if that's the case.
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22.12.2017, 15:40
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Yes, but is that because they're not allowed to work? Can't really complain about it if that's the case. | | | | | That's often claimed but not the case - as otherwise how would the other 10% be working ?? There are actually two refugee lads working in my place for example (pretty good workers too).
To be more correct they're often only not allowed to work for the first three months after entry. | 
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | Not a refugee at all. | | | | | Oh. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said Mr Noori came to Australia as a refugee through the "normal refugee programs", not via a people-smuggling operation. Source | The following 3 users would like to thank kriss kross for this useful post: | | 
22.12.2017, 16:04
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| | Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe) | Quote: | |  | | | That's often claimed but not the case - as otherwise how would the other 10% be working ?? There are actually two refugee lads working in my place for example (pretty good workers too).
To be more correct they're often only not allowed to work for the first three months after entry. | | | | | It is not so easy as you imply
Requirements
The person may engage in gainful employment thereafter if the following requirements are met (Art. 52 Ordinance on Admission, Stay and Gainful Employment (OASGE)): - If the general situation in the economy and on the labour market allows;
- If an employer asks to hire the asylum seeker; and complies with the usual local wage and working conditions of the given industry;
- If it is determined that no one else with the requested qualifications profile can be hired for the position. In other words, a check must be made to see if the position can be given to a person with a Swiss passport or with a residence or settlement permit or to a citizen of a country with which an agreement on the free movement of people exists (“principle of lower priority access to the labour market for asylum seekers”).
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