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Old 22.12.2017, 16:10
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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It is not so easy as you imply
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The person may engage in gainful employment thereafter if the following requirements are met (Art. 52 Ordinance on Admission, Stay and Gainful Employment (OASGE)):
  • If the general situation in the economy and on the labour market allows;
  • If an employer asks to hire the asylum seeker; and complies with the usual local wage and working conditions of the given industry;
Uhh apart from North Korea where else on the planet would these not apply ??
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Old 22.12.2017, 16:25
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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Uhh apart from North Korea where else on the planet would these not apply ??
So you agree it is not easy.
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Old 22.12.2017, 18:20
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Your racist comment is not excused. And so what if he came as arefugee from Afganistan. You trying to say something here?
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And Vic. Police have confirmed it was a deliberate attack which was motivated, at least partially, by the mistreatment of Muslims.

But yeah, nothing to do with terrorism or Islam, excuse my bigotry.

(And yes, he came to Australia as a refugee - you might have to sort through some fake news to find that information though)
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Old 22.12.2017, 22:19
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So you agree it is not easy.
I agree that your point is entirely invalid since the same conditions apply almost universally on the planet.
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Old 22.12.2017, 23:05
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I agree that your point is entirely invalid since the same conditions apply almost universally on the planet.
Must be a very small planet as you left out the key condition "If it is determined that no one else with the requested qualifications profile can be hired for the position.
In other words, a check must be made to see if the position can be given to a person with a Swiss passport or with a residence or settlement permit or to a citizen of a country with which an agreement on the free movement of people exists (“principle of lower priority access to the labour market for asylum seekers”).
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Old 22.12.2017, 23:44
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

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Um, where in the article does it say he's a Muslim?

"The man who deliberately drove a car into a crowd in Melbourne is a drug user with mental health issues but no known terrorism links, police say.

The Australian citizen of Afghan descent was taken into custody after a struggle at the scene of the incident."
Religion in Afghanistan
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Afghanistan is an Islamic republic where Islam is practiced by 99.7% of its population


Ahem, he was probably a Christian of the other 0.03%.
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Ace if it was motivated by Islam and he was a refugee will you remove the bad rep?
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Old 22.12.2017, 23:57
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Religion in Afghanistan
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Afghanistan is an Islamic republic where Islam is practiced by 99.7% of its population


Ahem, he was probably a Christian of the other 0.03%.
So who has more reason to be a refugee? One of the 99.7% or one of the other 0.03%?
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Old 23.12.2017, 08:15
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

"(pretty good workers too)". As if they should be otherwise hey?
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That's often claimed but not the case - as otherwise how would the other 10% be working ?? There are actually two refugee lads working in my place for example (pretty good workers too).

To be more correct they're often only not allowed to work for the first three months after entry.
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Old 23.12.2017, 18:55
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Everitt Aaron Jameson, an ex-Marine sharpshooter who converted to Islam after being discharged planned to use a combination of explosives, firearms and a vehicle to carry out his attack Christmas day.
He was charged Friday with planning a terrorist attack in San Francisco.

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Not sure how a travel ban would have helped?
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Old 24.12.2017, 00:21
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Religion in Afghanistan
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Afghanistan is an Islamic republic where Islam is practiced by 99.7% of its population


Ahem, he was probably a Christian of the other 0.03%.
Maths.
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Old 24.12.2017, 00:42
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So who has more reason to be a refugee? One of the 99.7% or one of the other 0.03%?
Maths. Indeed.
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Old 24.12.2017, 01:40
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Maths. Indeed.
Naja... statistics, probability, or game theory?
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Old 24.12.2017, 02:42
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Naja... statistics, probability, or game theory?
On this forum behaviour of individuals (especially mods) is rather stochastic despite all claims of determinism.
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Old 24.12.2017, 03:11
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On this forum behaviour of individuals (especially mods) is rather stochastic despite all claims of determinism.
So people, not AIs!
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Old 24.12.2017, 14:07
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Swedish finance minister now regrets decision to let in 160,000 refugees and integration not working

http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel...rtikel=6848940

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Swedish finance minister Magdalena Andersson in an interview has said that she regrets her government's decision to let more than 160,000 refugees into Sweden in 2015, and she said integration is not working.

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Integration is not working properly. It didn't work before the autumn of 2015 either, but for me it is obvious that we cannot have a larger asylum reception than we are able to integrate. That is not good for the people who come here and it is not good for society at large either.
Now as before I have no problem with Marton and friends supporting folks from their private means - but he has publicly admitted he has no desire to do so.
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Old 24.12.2017, 22:58
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Old 25.12.2017, 15:43
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Some details emerge of the gang rape of a 17 year old girl in Fittja last year and the subsequent acquittal of her attackersdespite the State now passing a law removing any details of perps ethnic background...the girl had lighter fluid poured into her genitals and set alight

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Hundreds took to the streets in the southern Swedish town of Malmo this week to protest the government's response to a three brutal gang rapes of teenage girls over a three week period - the most recent of which took place in a playground last Saturday and left a 17-year-old girl hospitalized.

Authorities haven't disclosed the identity of the suspect(s) and have offered scant details of the attack - though it has been described by authorities as particularly brutal, with unconfirmed reports on social media claiming the victim had lighter fluid poured in her vagina and set on fire.

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Gang rapes were virtually unknown to Sweden before 1995, and rapidly rose with the tide of primarily Islamic asylum seekers from third world countries. In 2008, Sweden's Crime Prevention Council published a report on rape against people over the age of 15, which concluded "rapes with several perpetrators" (gang rapes) have increased sharply since the mid-90's. In 1995, there were 116 reported gang rapes in Sweden. In 2006, that had jumped to 553 - an increase of nearly 500% over ten years.
seems the feminists of Sweden are just beginning to realise the cost of their stupidity.
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Old 25.12.2017, 16:33
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Some details emerge of the alleged gang rape of a 17 year old girl in Fittja last year and the subsequent acquittal of her alleged attackersdespite the State now passing a law removing any details of perps ethnic background...
ftfy

You are confusing the details of two different incidents.

Regarding the acquittal, the woman had explained in police hearings that she was in Fittja to buy drugs from a friend, and it was established that she had a number of narcotics in her system at the time of the incident.
She later admitted to being a drug addict.
The accused men claimed she acted voluntarily. They say she offered oral sex in exchange for drugs.
Where did you get the idea she was 17?
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ftfy

You are confusing the details of two different incidents.

Regarding the acquittal, the woman had explained in police hearings that she was in Fittja to buy drugs from a friend, and it was established that she had a number of narcotics in her system at the time of the incident.
She later admitted to being a drug addict.
The accused men claimed she acted voluntarily. They say she offered oral sex in exchange for drugs.
Where did you get the idea she was 17?
It sounds like the kind of thing you would find on a Britian First Facebook feed. They’re well known for taking an incident like this, stripping it of context and adding inflammatory bs then pushing it out on Facebook to their drooling knuckle dragging supporters. (No I don’t like Biffers. Can you tell?)

The actual article is from Zerohedge, which is very much on the swivel-eyed alt-right continuum.
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