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Old 25.12.2017, 17:43
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ftfy

You are confusing the details of two different incidents.

Regarding the acquittal, the woman had explained in police hearings that she was in Fittja to buy drugs from a friend, and it was established that she had a number of narcotics in her system at the time of the incident.
She later admitted to being a drug addict.
The accused men claimed she acted voluntarily. They say she offered oral sex in exchange for drugs.
Where did you get the idea she was 17?
SOURCE ??

There have been three recent gang rapes around Malmo - not two so it would seem that it is you who is confused.

So because she is a drug addict she deserved to get raped ??

The hypocrasy has reached new levels.

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Man, 21 years old:
Formerly convicted of theft and drug offense.

Male, 24 years old:

Earlier convicted of, among other things, threats to officials, drug smuggling, human rights and sexual exploitation of children.

Man, 18 years old:

Formerly convicted of abuse, violent opposition and attempted violence against civil servants.

Man, 19 years old:

Formerly convicted of theft and drug offenses

Male, 22 years old:

Formerly convicted of drug abuse, robbery, illegal driving and attempted gross fraud.

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Old 25.12.2017, 18:09
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SOURCE ??

There have been three recent gang rapes around Malmo - not two so it would seem that it is you who is confused.

So because she is a drug addict she deserved to get raped ??

The hypocrasy has reached new levels.

EDIT: I notice you didn't say anything about the backgrounds of the men involved :
Indeed there have been three recent gang rapes around Malmo.

The woman allegedly raped a year ago was in Fittja to buy drugs; Fittja is 600 Km from Malmo
Of course the men she was meeting were criminals, she wanted to buy drugs?

"So because she is a drug addict she deserved to get raped ?? " Your idea not mine!

So because they were criminals they deserved to be charged with rape?

If you want sources then try googling; I recommend looking at Swedish newspapers not US scandal sites
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Old 25.12.2017, 18:12
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"So because she is a drug addict she deserved to get raped ?? " Your idea not mine!
You posted up her background not me. Why did her background matter ??

Also no source - so you invented it - wouldn't be the first time you've been caught here doing that.
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Old 25.12.2017, 18:58
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You posted up her background not me. Why did her background matter ??

Also no source - so you invented it - wouldn't be the first time you've been caught here doing that.
Your refusing to check in Google is not a winning strategy
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Old 27.12.2017, 17:33
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It sounds like the kind of thing you would find on a Britian First Facebook feed. They’re well known for taking an incident like this, stripping it of context and adding inflammatory bs then pushing it out on Facebook to their drooling knuckle dragging supporters. (No I don’t like Biffers. Can you tell?)

The actual article is from Zerohedge, which is very much on the swivel-eyed alt-right continuum.
Here's the other "swivel-eyed alt-right" mouthpiece bloomberg news :

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Crime Wave Engulfs Sweden as Fraud, Sexual Offenses Reach Record

The number of Swedes who were victims of crimes such as fraud and sexual offenses jumped to the highest level on record last year.

A survey by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention showed that 15.6 percent of people suffered one or more offences against the person (defined in the survey as assault, threats, sexual offences, robbery, fraud or harassment) last year. That’s up from 13.3 percent in 2015 and the highest number recorded since the annual Swedish Crime Survey started in 2006.


“Young women aged between 16 and 24 is the group that’s most subject to sexual offences, with 14 percent of young women stating that they were victims of at least one such crime during 2016,” the council said. “Among men in the same age group, 1.2 percent said they had been victims.”

Young women are also subject to harassment to a greater extent, the council said. They survey contains no answers as to why a certain type of crime increases, and analysis is needed to improve understanding of the reasons for the increase, it said.

Fewer than half of the crimes in the survey were reported to the police. Sexual offences, harassment and threats were the least reported while people most often notified the police of burglaries, the survey showed.
No answers... wonder why..
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Old 27.12.2017, 19:23
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Here's the other "swivel-eyed alt-right" mouthpiece bloomberg news :


No answers... wonder why..
In Sweden, crime statistics refer to the year when the offence was reported; the actual offence may have been committed long before.
Swedish rape and other crime statistics can thus contain significant time-lag, which makes interpretations of annual changes difficult.

From the European Journal on Criminal Policy and Research
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Old 27.12.2017, 21:05
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Here's the other "swivel-eyed alt-right" mouthpiece bloomberg news :


No answers... wonder why..
And where are the demographics of the perpetrators? What has that to do with anything? Why are you so concerned?

Also this report indicates fewer then half the crimes mentioned in the report were actually reported to police. I am not sure what that means. But it more then likely doesn't mean what you would like to think it means.

Parnell, you would do better to stay off alt-right nationalist propaganda websites.
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Old 27.12.2017, 21:45
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And where are the demographics of the perpetrators? What has that to do with anything? Why are you so concerned?
Good question - glad you asked - from wiki:

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According to crime victim surveys from the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (BRÅ), the actual rate of sex crimes has been more or less unchanged in Sweden between 2005 and 2014, despite the fact that immigration has increased during the same time period. Two reports from the BRÅ are relevant to the rate of rape among immigrants to Sweden and their descendants. The latest published report that indicates the association between immigrants and rape was published in 2005 and revealed that foreign born individuals were 5.5 times more likely to be charged of rape than individuals born in Sweden to two Swedish parents.[36][37] Unfortunately the report doesn't break down the foreign born category by country of origin despite the fact that country of origin has been found to be highly predictive of crime rates in other Nordic countries.[38]. Although an even earlier report published in 1996 by the BRÅ did break down rate of rape convictions by country of origin. It found that between 1985 and 1989 individuals born in Iraq, North Africa (Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia), and Africa (excluding Uganda and the North African countries) were convicted of rape at rates 20, 23, and 17 greater than individuals born in Sweden respectively.[36][18]
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Also this report indicates fewer then half the crimes mentioned in the report were actually reported to police. I am not sure what that means. But it more then likely doesn't mean what you would like to think it means.
It might mean that Swedes are losing any faith with their government - to the extent that the same government has banned giving out information about the origin/background of perps . Gee wonder why ??

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Parnell, you would do better to stay off alt-right nationalist propaganda websites.
Heh like bloomberg or the independent or even the Swedish government ????

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Swedish finance minister Magdalena Andersson in an interview has said that she regrets her government's decision to let more than 160,000 refugees into Sweden in 2015, and she said integration is not working.
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Integration is not working properly. It didn't work before the autumn of 2015 either, but for me it is obvious that we cannot have a larger asylum reception than we are able to integrate. That is not good for the people who come here and it is not good for society at large either.
Shockingly enough the Beeb didn't pick it up - no bias there I'm sure.

Which media sources do you recommend ??
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Old 28.12.2017, 00:42
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Good question - glad you asked - from wiki:

It might mean that Swedes are losing any faith with their government - to the extent that the same government has banned giving out information about the origin/background of perps . Gee wonder why ??

Heh like bloomberg or the independent or even the Swedish government ????

Shockingly enough the Beeb didn't pick it up - no bias there I'm sure.

Which media sources do you recommend ??
From your Swedish Government link
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Fridolin - who is also Sweden's education minister - emphasised that Andersson's (Swedish finance minister) opinion is not the government's official view.
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This report indicates fewer then half the crimes mentioned in the report were actually reported to police. I am not sure what that means.
It could mean the crimes did not actually happen like the case of the lady in Fittja where the men were found to be not guilty!

"Which media sources do you recommend ??" As before, look in Swedish newspapers.
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Old 28.12.2017, 00:56
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From your Swedish Government link
It could mean the crimes did not actually happen like the case of the lady in Fittja where the men were found to be not guilty!
You believe those men did not rape that person ?? If you'd been reading Swedish newspapers you'd know that the case is going to appeals court.

Are you so desperate to believe up is down that you would let women be raped and that crime go unpunished ??

Would you say the same things were it a female relative who was hurt ??
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Old 28.12.2017, 01:08
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You believe those men did not rape that person ?? If you'd been reading Swedish newspapers you'd know that the case is going to appeals court.

Are you so desperate to believe up is down that you would let women be raped and that crime go unpunished ??

Would you say the same things were it a female relative who was hurt ??
Presumption of innocence!

What are you so desperate to believe?
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Old 28.12.2017, 01:10
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Presumption of innocence!
Answer the question please.
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Old 28.12.2017, 01:37
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Answer the question please.
If a female relative of mine was hurt I would not want innocent people to be punished to simply satisfy a thirst for revenge
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If a female relative of mine was hurt I would not want innocent people to be punished to simply satisfy a thirst for revenge
So you think they were innocent and did not rape that woman ?? Answer the question asked and not ones of your imagination.
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Old 28.12.2017, 10:17
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So you think they were innocent and did not rape that woman ?? Answer the question asked and not ones of your imagination.
A Swedish court of law had access to all the facts of the case and found them not guilty; that is reality and not imagination.

I believe in reality
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

I was shocked to realize that Muslim population in CH already makes up 5%. Don't you think that it is already alarming? Will CH turn into something like Sweden or Britain in the near future? Or Muslims from the Bosnia/Kosovo/Albania are less of a problem than those from Middle East & North Africa?

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I was shocked to realize that Muslim population in CH already makes up 5%. Don't you think that it is already alarming?
No, as 90% are foreigners.

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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

I have an acquaintance whom I like very much, from Kosovo but also a Swiss citizen, who goes to church when she needs some peace of mind....even though she's Muslim. Imagine that! It's a bit funny, she goes there much more often than me anyway...
So yeah. Bad, bad, bad people.
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I was shocked to realize that Muslim population in CH already makes up 5%. Don't you think that it is already alarming?
No.

What I find alarming is that you choose to embelish your post with a photograph of celebrations at a Manchester supermarket.
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I was shocked to realize that Muslim population in CH already makes up 5%. Don't you think that it is already alarming? Will CH turn into something like Sweden or Britain in the near future? Or Muslims from the Bosnia/Kosovo/Albania are less of a problem than those from Middle East & North Africa?

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