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European reproduction rates has been noticeably and severely impacted by liberal cultural retardation. UN solution is referred to as Replacement Migration:

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Since facts-deniers will call Rebel Media far-right and racist, could you please debunk the video below? Are these muslims in the video just a minority?
That video was made four years ago using video clips over ten years old; I believe you can sleep safely in your bed for the next century
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European reproduction rates has been noticeably and severely impacted by liberal cultural retardation. UN solution is referred to as Replacement Migration:

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The comment quoted above is puerile. It's designed purely to generate a reaction. Your trolling is incessant these days, Phos. Stop. Get a job, or a new hobby, or practise yoga -- just stop screwing up sensible discussions.

This is your last warning. Expect a lengthy ban if you continue to troll.

Same goes for the others in this thread who have also crossed the lines demarcated above. Stop, think, consider -- and don't post provocative trollery.

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Old 09.01.2018, 08:32
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Of course many people say that Trump is mentally deranged, and I have no doubt they said that of Caligula in his time. But I like to entertain the notion that there may be another explanation. You know, people who are genuinely crazy but still functional generally try to hide their craziness, not draw attention to it.
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I didn't say Trump is mentally deranged because
a) I don't know him personally and
b) even if I did, I don't know him from the position of being his psychiatrist
Period. Noticing peculiarities in his behaviour and trying to explain them through basic psychology is not the same thing. He appears to me as a mean old boy with some difficulties in keeping his self-esteem high outside of the power game. If I look around I can see lots of his type, fortunately they don't have such important jobs.

There are people who entertain themselves with online trolling and cyber-bulling but can pass as perfectly sane individuals in any psychological test or session. Some even as perfectly decent folks. So again, no, I personally didn't accuse Trump neither of being crazy nor of being stupid. My theory is that he gives his electorate or loyal audience exactly what they want to hear and see from him. Using the social media where boundaries are loose to say the least, it's just part of the game. He's a showman, a clown. Would I like this president if I was an American? Certainly not. Call me old school but I still believe that people in higher positions or those who held jobs with responsibility should take diplomacy and appearances a lot more seriously.

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I think people have erroneously put a false value on getting offended. Its a currency that is over-produced and will only lead to some kind of hyper inflation of its value.

One has very little control over how another person reacts, perhaps even none. One has ultimate control over how one reacts to anything. <-- This is really the area that individuals need to focus on and we need to develop throughout society: How to get a grip of oneself.

I dunno, maybe to this end, I'm hoping more trolling might help.
I can agree with you on one point but it has its downsides you know, for the troll especially - if you want to be free to offend and disrespect just everybody you feel like, only because you can, then don't be so surprised if whatever constructive thing you have to say will never be taken seriously or at least listened to. But you'll have what you wanted - little control of other people's reactions and opinions. :-)

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Remember those attempts a few months ago to make EF a friendlier, slightly more tolerable place? There was an announcement that went like this:

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The comment quoted above is puerile. It's designed purely to generate a reaction. Your trolling is incessant these days, Phos. Stop. Get a job, or a new hobby, or practise yoga -- just stop screwing up sensible discussions.

This is your last warning. Expect a lengthy ban if you continue to troll.

Same goes for the others in this thread who have also crossed the lines demarcated above. Stop, think, consider -- and don't post provocative trollery.

Thanks.

This is simple scientific fact that the European birthrate is at 1.6 children per woman, while 2.1 per woman is needed to replace the population. A large part of this is driven by cultural shifts in attitudes towards reproduction, sexuality and families.

Like I said, you can choose what you get offended about, although you really ought to get a grip.
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Everyone, i claim the prize of getting Phos to use the term 'libtard'.

You know when that term is used, there is not going to be anything more of substance contributed by the speaker.

Its not even midday :-)
You know, the real irony is that Phos is actually much closer to conservative Islam than to western European society. His very use of the word "libtard" shows his distaste for the values he pretends to be defending.
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This is simple scientific fact that the European birthrate is at 1.6 children per woman, while 2.1 per woman is needed to replace the population. A large part of this is driven by cultural shifts in attitudes towards reproduction, sexuality and families.

Like I said, you can choose what you get offended about, although you really ought to get a grip.
You seem to have missed the words "liberal" and "retardation" in your selective auto-quote.

You'd be well advised to "get a grip", given that you're the one on shaky ground.
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You seem to have missed the words "liberal" and "retardation" in your selective auto-quote.

You'd be well advised to "get a grip", given that you're the one on shaky ground.
Well, if you look at the impact of liberalization of Western culture on reproductive biology, and how it has stunted population birth rates, it has retarded population growth rates.

But I got you in regards to the pejorative, which I admit I have flung around for my personal amusement. Fair warning on its usage given and advise taken. That is fair moderation.
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Old 09.01.2018, 10:41
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Well, if you look at the impact of liberalization of Western culture on reproductive biology, and how it has stunted population birth rates, it has retarded population growth rates.

But I got you in regards to the pejorative, which I admit I have flung around for my personal amusement. Fair warning on its usage given and advise taken. That is fair moderation.
"impact of liberalization of Western culture on reproductive biology" What does this sentence mean?
If you are talking about fertility rates then do you have any source for your claim? Are you suggesting conservatives do not display falling fertility
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Old 09.01.2018, 11:42
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There are people who entertain themselves with online trolling and cyber-bulling but can pass as perfectly sane individuals in any psychological test or session. Some even as perfectly decent folks. So again, no, I personally didn't accuse Trump neither of being crazy nor of being stupid. My theory is that he gives his electorate or loyal audience exactly what they want to hear and see from him.
This is true. But then so did Obama. So did many other presidents.

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Using the social media where boundaries are loose to say the least, it's just part of the game. He's a showman, a clown.
There is always a fuzzy overlap between leadership, showmanship and clownism. I cannot think of any notable leader who wasn't or isn't also a bit the showman and a bit the clown.

Trump maybe takes this a bit further than others. But that's his personality.

Quite a few actors and showmen made it to the office of POTUS. I don't think any accountants or insurance salesemen ever did. Maybe there is a reason for that. People want a bit of a show. It comes with the job.

Maybe Trump is overdoing it. But in doing so he is also showing how the system works. Like the clown-magician who overdoes his magic tricks so everybody can see through them. It spoils the magic, yeah. But nobody really believed in the magic now, did they? So no harm done. But do the other magicians like it that he's giving away their tricks and demistifying the show? Sure, they don't. Just look how Obama gets angry at Trump.

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Would I like this president if I was an American? Certainly not. Call me old school but I still believe that people in higher positions or those who held jobs with responsibility should take diplomacy and appearances a lot more seriously.
Sure, i agree.

But there is a thin line between diplomacy and appeasement, and a thin line between respect and fawning. Politics has become too much of a dance on eggshells these last few years. Too many groups claiming to be offended by this that and the other and thus effectively setting the agenda. It may take a bull in the china shop to refocus away from special interests and towards he things that matter for everybody.

Not that I think Trump is doing that right now. But let's see this one step at a time.
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Maybe Trump is overdoing it.
Trump learned early on that an outrageous tweet brings him widespread attention, and scores political capital. He will keep doing so for as long as it is working for him.

In the past, US Presidents have had to play to the media, which in turn narrated the President's story to the public. In a typical business value move, Trump has cut out this middleman from the process, and the media is not at all happy about it.

Depending on the reaction he is getting, and the circumstances he is dealing with, we are likely to see Trump modulate the intensity of his output, based on his objectives.

In other words, it may get worse.

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Shouldn't that all be in the Trump thread?
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Watching this David Starkey video is similar to seeing a debate about Islam on here. He makes a valid argument and the best the panel can come back with are "you got my name wrong" or "you said this about something else so your argument's not valid".

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Shouldn't that all be in the Trump thread?
Some people have Pavlovian reactions and so get easily confused about which thread they are in
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Watching this David Starkey video is similar to seeing a debate about Islam on here. He makes a valid argument and the best the panel can come back with are "you got my name wrong" or "you said this about something else so your argument's not valid".

Did you actually watch the video you posted?
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Yes, what’s your point?
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Maybe Trump is overdoing it.
He is definitely underdoing it, considering the slow effect it has and the level of selfrighteousness this catharsis brings. It is entertaining.

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Didactic reasons, indeed.

He wouldn't have to be didactic if political climate allowed different opinions. If there was no need for token symbols but audience valued authentic diversity. If people with opposing views weren't immediately outcast under different blanket diagnosis: trolls, clowns... He does not care what token he is supposed to represent to outraged communities just because they happen to think that a respectful political figure should not tweet bs. He used social media to point out that it is used to sink opposition and users' cognition in general. I'd say it is a pretty didactic move. Opposing views are too easily discarded when labelled as trolling. This MO does not work with potus so easily. He can trump it, and he does - it is hilarious.

Phos, everytime you talk about Trump as Dad it makes me chuckle. For the "offensive" issue - doesn't "I'm offended" simply mean "I disagree with you" these days..The vocab one uses has a potent power, for listeners it is the same Rorschach. If you walk around happily being offended by million things a day - does it inflate or deflate the meaning of "offense"? People will gradually desensitize to all the outrage and offense and will simply hear "I disagree with your opinion".

For the initial topic - it is interesting that people in the V4 do not hesitate to say what they think about the EU migrant quota. It seems to offend the EU.
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Re: All about Muslims (in the wake of terrorist attacks in Europe)

Saudi Arabia has begun screening movies after a 35-year-ban on commercial movie theaters was lifted last month.

According to Reuters, a makeshift theater erected at a cultural hall in the city of Jeddah began to screen recent children’s movies, including "The Emoji Movie," this weekend.

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Saudi women have been allowed into a sports stadium for the first time to watch a football match between two local teams.

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Small but positive steps.
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Have a look at Scott Adams (Dilbert) and his Periscopes or his blog. While he is not a 100% Trump supporter, he thinks that Trump is a master of persuasion. Puts a lot of things into perspective...

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Trump learned early on that an outrageous tweet brings him widespread attention, and scores political capital. He will keep doing so for as long as it is working for him.

In the past, US Presidents have had to play to the media, which in turn narrated the President's story to the public. In a typical business value move, Trump has cut out this middleman from the process, and the media is not at all happy about it.

Depending on the reaction he is getting, and the circumstances he is dealing with, we are likely to see Trump modulate the intensity of his output, based on his objectives.

In other words, it may get worse.

Death to over.sensitive Political Correctness!
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